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I didn't think the last iPhone contract was that bad a deal really. However, do as you wish although the word on the web is that activating the iPhone will be done in store now.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-purchase-and-activation-will-be-in-store-only/

gah

uk prices http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly

There would be penalties for users who do not activate the iPhone in the first 30 days, AT&T said, in a move aimed at reducing the number of customers who buy an iPhone and tweak the software so they can use it on another network.

- http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUSN0926011020080609

The Australian operators who signed on to this thing use a country 3g frequency that's not supported by the iphone. So, you know, well fucking done.

Oh, and they don't use Edge.

who's lolling now

Apple

people are paying hundreds for PHONES? and PHONE PLANS???

-- 2010s Man

3g?? lolololololol

-- 2010s Man

maybe they will have c'n'p app in appstore

too bad they couldn't sell flush headphone jack in appstore

Apple zealots are really fucking me off. 'No c+p? Why would you want to do that?' 'No MMS? Why would you want to use that?'

I thought this breed of Mac user had died off.

The MMS thing is superannoying; I get messages from my brother all the time that I can't read because of it.

Do most smartphones (is that the right term?) have MMS? I know sidekick doesnt. I assumed because you can email the photos, MMS wasnt all that necessary?

no one gives a fuck about 'snow leopard' then?

Treos have MMS, or at least the Treo 750 does.

The no MMS + no C+P thing is super super annoying because you end up with messages that say stuff like "you've been sent a multimedia message, please go to this website and enter this login info to retrieve it" and you then have to find pen and paper to write down 10+ character long ID codes (or go find a computer) and passwords just to see a picture of your sister-in-law's new car. It makes the smartphone feel not-particularly-smart.

Yeah, I get those too and I never see the pic once Ive gone through all of that.

The C+P thing is really annoying.

I assumed because you can email the photos, MMS wasnt all that necessary?

Receiving them from other people, sunny.

No MMS is a weird continuing omission, but not one that will bother me all that much. No cut and paste is crappy, no question. But every phone I've ever used has been crappy in so many other ways that I don't think it's something to sink the iPhone.

Blackberry cut and paste is pretty good in the email client but slection can be a bitch in the web browser.

(they both seem like things I'd expect to see added in an incremental update, but then, why haven't they already done them? I'm trying to think if there's an ideological reason that they've been omitted)

yah wtf youd think both of those would be easy fixes - has apple said anything abt c&p or mms

i've been using mms on my normal "dumb" phone for like.. four years i think?

hard to disagree

MMS has been standard on virtually all handsets in the UK for years. I hardly ever use it, but still.

I want one.

the only reason I can figure for the continued non-implementation of c+p is they can't work out a usable gesture/way to do it on multi-touch

any ideas how?

plus I hardly ever think 'oh shit, wish I could c+p'

clap your hands twice

The MMS thing is superannoying; I get messages from my brother all the time that I can't read because of it.

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:04 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

I have an unlocked nokia E70 on TMobile and instead of getting MMS messages they get turned into fucking tmobilepicturebullshit.com links. MMS worked on my fucking Nokia 3660 from 2003. Sigh, MMS is kind of silly because most phones with "good enough" screens and cameras should have web & email.

Just the same; wish the iPhone had it.

no C&P is really fucking annoying; is this a definitive no? Wonder if someone can hack this in :(

gah

uk prices http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly

-- czn, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:32 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Link

plus I hardly ever think 'oh shit, wish I could c+p'

-- czn, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

LOL

I'll get one, but not necessarily right away

Not to encourage Matt Drudge, but do we think Jobs, post-pancreatic, is doing ok?

how much does the iphone plan end up costing per month after all the taxes and errything?

i want one mostly for the GPS cos i don't have it on my car. the whole touch screen deal is kind of annoying.

use of internet on phone /= use of internet on laptop

jobs looked in good form -- i thought it was prostate?

he's a rare pancreatic cancer survivor

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=alCNqvwo1zLY

This is a friend of mine totally on Apple's jock.

pancreatic, really?

wow, that is rare. good for him.

I'm sure I saw a patent application or something for multi-touch on an apple rumours site that had copy and paste as a three fingered gesture. It looked pretty workable to me. Select text, move three fingers towards each other to copy. Move to next app, move three fingers away to paste. Or the opposite...

i'm sure somebody could figure it out.

like, if they can make an iphone but somehow the entire apple team can't think of a new finger-wiggling gesture...

scroll to where you want to start copying
hit a menu button at the bottom of the screen and select "copy"
drag your finger over the text you want to copy
hit a menu button to save the text
navigate somewhere else
select "paste from clipboard"
select the appropriate copied text chunk from a scrollable selection

a little clunky but feasible; also thought up on the fly

so does anyone know how much the plan costs?

a kidney

tap, tap-drag over text to copy, when it's highlighted drag it to the view edge, it'll stick like a Post-It. Switch app, drag text off the side, it'll be placed. (This isn't far off how the Newton did it, either) xpst

^^^^^^ much more Apple-esque

does anyone know the url for askjeeves?

you should be able to find it at altavista.com

Reasons why email doesn't replace MMS:

1. Some people don't have email on their MMS-capable phones
2. Most people don't have email push enabled
3. Most people don't know how to read email on their phones