so this is kind of awesome
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
hearing killer mike say 'we here to eat the rich' is like seeing spider man use heat vision
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ASxmiBTzM
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
this totally bangs
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
fucking love this
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
i hope this is as good as that song on ghetto extraordinary where he says "Fuck Hitler" twice a row!
Killer Mike is great, he had me from the first, when he said "catch a beat runnin' like Randy Moss" and stared into my eyes
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
whole thing is on spotify, "reagan" is (predictably) fucking killer
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny, i was listening to it on the train a couple of hours ago and thinking that for the past few years it's been hitherto-kinda-underrated old dudes who've been responsible for the rap albums that sound most ALIVE and banging - quik & kurupt, killer mike, big boi...
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
read the thread title as "killer mike, rap's el-p, produces"
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
kinda-underrated old dudes who've been responsible for the rap albums that sound most ALIVE and banging - quik & kurupt, killer mike, big boi...
Kool G Rap yo
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
I am excited to hear this
"southern fried" is really the only one that's ~the way i'd expect a killer mike/el-p collab to sound like, the rest is pretty refreshing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
Love it. El-P keeps it sparser than I was expecting but with a nice booming lowend. w
― Regional Tug (irrational), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is great so far.
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
"Go!" is awesome, so cool to hear some scratching on a track
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
Love this very much.
― Sonic adobes of stultifying hipsterdom (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
so cool to hear some scratching on a track
yeah, scratch solo is ace. does sort of take things back to the late 90s.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
spotify has both the explicit and clean versions of this album. convenient for work listening.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Mike: Rick Ross, man...he's on another level. "So Rick, you were a correctional officer. Now you rap. How do you explain that?" Rick: "Real niggas do real things, for real reasons." I just stood up and shouted: "YES RICK! THAT'S WHAT YOU DO!" I'm a huge Rick Ross fan. HUGE Rick Ross fan. Deeper Than Rap: That was the best rap album of the year.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/05/killer_mike_el_p_interview.php?page=4
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
love this
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
this shit bang
2 seconds into butane i thought we were gonna get gabba mike for a sec haha
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
someone send this to Morbs so he can quote Mike's lines about Obama.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
This is awesome, yes. I like the El-P record a lot too but KM is a more interesting dude to spend 45 mins with.
― Simon H., Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A GLEE COMMERCIAL ON MY FUCKING KILLER MIKE SONG
DankProductions5280 13 hours ago
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
+1 Like
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
got a rave review from Sound Opinions
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
does anyone not like this? finding negative reviews of r.a.p. music is like finding negative reviews of black hippy stuff
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
NME to the rescue!
Fast off the back of last year’s ‘PL3DGE’ LP comes Grind Time Official star Killer Mike’s sixth full-length outing. Built on a somewhat uneasy collaboration between the OutKast protégé and Def Jux founder El-P, it’s a set of two halves whose hands won’t hold. Mike’s an angry, earthy rapper and his standard “hardcore G shit” (‘Big Beast’) chips and bumps against his producer’s strained attempts to lift it skywards with spacey electro noodling (‘Don’t Die’). Worst of the back end is ‘Reagan’ – a politi-rap analysis of the Iran-Contra scandal. It’s a relic – a meandering, studenty thought piece that’s been dug from the ratty recesses of the ’90s West Coast conscious scene. Mike has dabbled with politics in the past, and even made unlikely forays into experimental soul, but ‘RAP Music’ lacks the fury and vitality that usually sustains him. The ambition is to be applauded, but half the album’s a grind. And not the good kind.
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:02 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark
i would listen just for the possibility of putting a negative review into the world but i don't want to break the 14-year streak of avoiding el-p's music that i've managed since back when that one stupid co flow video used to get played on rap city
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
I find the political history more interesting than the politics of strip clubs.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
...this time.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't completely sold on this... Lots of interesting lyrical stuff, but I was disappointed that Killer Mike still has the same monotonously aggressive, punctuate-every-other-word, flow as when I last listened to him 10 years ago, when Monster came out. That combined with El-P's heavy beats, which are okay, but kinda too compressed and too busy throughout the album, make thw whole thing hard to listen except in small chunks, despite its shortness. IMO Vast Aire was a better foil for El-P's style, and the Cannibal Ox beats also had more air in them, which is kinda lacking here with everything being so in-your-face.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
Also, the label this was released on seems to be otherwise specializing in albums by cartoon characters, what's up with that?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
it definitely was surreal to look on the back cover of the CD and see the Adult Swim and Grand Hustle logos next to each other
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
Adult Swim have had a Stones Throw connection for a while
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link
I hated Company Flow in the 90s too, but I think El-P has gotten much better as a producer since then. The beats on the Can Ox album are on a whole different level than the beats he did for Co Flow. He still sucks as a rapper though, but the Can Ox album (where he only has one guest verse) is definitely worth checking out.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
just gonna throw my opinion that el-p has never been involved in the creation of anything less than great, and that he's also a pretty damn good rapper, into the ring here.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Tuomas do you find it difficult to listen to amerikkkaz most wanted or it takes a nation.... ?
― sisilafami, Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
i'm still half-ehhhhh and half-sure-okay on el-p as a rapper, but i've never not liked anything he's done as a producer since the turn of the millennium.
this album is amazing btw.
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
this is great. so is the new el-p 'cancer4cure'. old dudes in rap otm.
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
it's pretty good but def. overrated and people are glossing over the flaws - production gets pretty monotonous over the span of the album and the choruses are boring. the choruses are even more of a problem on cancer4cure.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
the skits and speeches on "Don't Die" and "Reagan" unnecessarily stretch those tracks.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
this is way way better than cancer 4 cure which i found as wearily worthy, if not actually awful, as every el-p thing i've heard
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
the politics might be the worst thing about rap music, it's all a bit...standard conspiracy theory BS
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
and the bit where he goes on about worrying whether women will change their names is seriously eyeroll-worthy, he seems an old dude in the bad sense there
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
It's more complicated than conspiracy drivel, lex. He's pointing the finger at his community for falling for the likes of Reagan, both Bushes, and Obama: "We should be indicted for bullshit we incited." Plus his tone and timbre are A+.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the best thing about "reagan" is that he acknowledges rap's history of bullshit conspiracy theorizing even as it falls prey to it a little bit
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
killer mike contains multitudes, etc.
i mean it verges on bill hicks style "every politician is a servant of the corporate overlords" simplification but the first verse's implication of mike himself (as well as rap as a whole) for selling violent pulp as a lifestyle and the second's life-someone's-lived specifics almost earn it.
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
standard rap conspiracy theory shit rules lex!
you sound like someone that's never truly beheld a pale horse :(
danity kane is illuminati politricks >:(
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
from a good thread picking apart the appearance
Overall thoughts. People who are drawing a comparison between Killer Mike on NRATV and Leftists on Fox News are incorrect. This is not really a nuanced conversation on Gun control or the history of Black gun owners, it's sole purpose is to have a black face parrot talking points— The People v. Brandon Sutton (@PrettyBadLefty) March 25, 2018
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
love how this guy goes from genius to idiot pawn of the machinations of the nra just for having a non-partyline opinion and not being as white as bernie. racists.
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
to clarify, 'racists' --> ppl like those in the above quoted tweet, not the ppl posting in this thread
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
Brandon Sutton is black, you absolute moron.
Anyway, RL Stephens takes a different tack.
The truth is that when NAACP leader Robert F Williams organized a community defense program against the Klan in NC in the 50’s, the group was chartered by the NRA. This story is more complicated and politically contested than we often acknowledge.— R.L. Stephens (@RLisDead) March 25, 2018
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:53 (six years ago) link
the NRA in the fifties was not the NRA of the '90s and today. I'm sure the Tweet feed goes into this discussion.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link
WOW so was the person who said this
"We've got to take the neighborhood back. We've got to go in there. Just forget telling your child to go to the Peace Corps. It's right around the corner. It's standing on the corner. It can't speak English. It doesn't want to speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk. "Why you ain't where you is go." I don't know who these people are. And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. Then I heard the father talk. This is all in the house. You used to talk a certain way on the corner and you got into the house and switched to English. Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't land a plane with "why you ain't…". You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. There is no Bible that has that kind of language. Where did these people get the idea that they're moving ahead on this? Well, they know they're not, they're just hanging out in the same place, five or six generations sitting in the projects when you're just supposed to stay there long enough to get a job and move out."
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:56 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
narrator: it didn't
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link
kinda uninterested in any exoneration of the nra after the revolt at cincinnati
I said nothing about "exoneration." It's a fact that the NRA before 1968 was a different organization.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link
oh no, im not directing that at you, thats to RL's thread/simon
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
uh me neither?
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/killer-mike-apologizes-for-nra-interview-in-new-video-watch/
There's a lot here that makes sense, even if the timeline doesn't quite clear up his "march right out of the house" remark, but I still question the very idea of appearing on "NRA-TV" (which I didn't even know existed until today).
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 March 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
xp sorryyyyyyyyyyy just to rl's thread
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, 26 March 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link
*vindicated for hating run the jewels all along*
― flopson, Monday, 26 March 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link
getting sassed again:
Killer Mike gotta take a year off of being woke. pic.twitter.com/mJrXfrKRKJ— Vince Valholla (@VinceValholla) April 8, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
killer mike is a fucking ninny
― k3vin k., Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
wanna rethink that one, k3vin?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
ok had to google "ninny racist" and yeah, apologies, mods please change to "jackass"
― k3vin k., Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
*googles quickly*
oh good, reckon we can get about a hundred posts on whether nincompoop is a derivation of pickaninny or not
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Sunday, 8 April 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
oof getting sonned by joy ann reid must be truly mortifying
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link
He went after her?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
He did indeed...badly.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 April 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
...apart from the instagram comment Alfred posted?
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 9 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link
And that is what I meant.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 April 2018 01:02 (six years ago) link
and I was answering Simon with an eyebrow raised
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link
I see no Joy-Ann Reid fans on ILX, just shaking heads at how ridiculous Mike's been
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link
KM makes up with JAR (he's going on her show), backs off from the NRA, and endorses the Socialist Rifle Association, which I just learned exists
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhl0jEXjjZq/?hl=en&taken-by=killermike
― Simon H., Monday, 16 April 2018 00:55 (six years ago) link
well their reddit is certainly excited about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistRA/
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Monday, 16 April 2018 02:11 (six years ago) link
Mentioned this on Twitter yesterday but how do these dudes get a free pass for "fuckboy"? Pretty clearly a homophobic term, they use it all the time, still get glittering press in Pitchfork etc. I know it's an issue in rap in general but seems especially glaring for RTJ who seem to have little to no audience outside the indie market.― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:33 (six years ago) link
F Yes 🌴 Our summer of love is heating up as @NikkiGlaser hosts the hottest, wildest group in the Cayman Islands. Three gorgeous women must decide: is he an FBOY or a Nice Guy? All the @FBOYIsland fun streams July 29, only on #HBOMax #FBOYIsland #SummerOnMax— HBO Max (@hbomax) July 12, 2021
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
fuck·boy/ˈfəkˌboi/Learn to pronouncenounVULGAR SLANG•DEROGATORYa weak or contemptible man.a man who has many casual sexual partners.Definitions from Oxford Languages
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
is kinda funny that ILX went from tut-tutting the usage of the word cos of their collective incorrect understanding of what it meant to using it, if not often, at least 'regularly', if I use ILX search to confirm (which I just did)
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
where is the outrage over "punk" which is far less ambiguous? or all the dick sucking stuff. which I'd have hoped these dudes would have grown out of
tbf I do recall at least el-p using the bad f word in the past but (no excuse) that was rampant back then. I still wish he would stick to making beats. which I feel used to be a more common opinion than it is now
I first heard fuckboy in reference to people like bieber & if anything it was about overbearing heterosexuality as well as general dickheadery. it could have a homophobic resonance on occasion but there's far more blatant stuff surely
― Left, Thursday, 15 July 2021 12:47 (two years ago) link
lol i had no idea 'punk' originally was a homophobic term
searching around and it seems like 'fuckboy' did sometimes have homophobic connotations in the past but that usage had largely disappeared or been overshadowed as it got popularised as a slang term last decade
― ufo, Thursday, 15 July 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link
In prison slang "fuckboy" and "punk" mean basically the same thing
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link
"punk" is ancient homo argot
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link
About 20 years ago a couple of dumb redneck guys were often at the lake house down the road from my inlaws and they would set off fireworks late at night and constantly yell "FUCK" all the time so my wife and her family all started calling anyone who was loud out in the woods 'the fuck boys'.
I was super confused when I heard the first RTJ record and didn't know how they picked up slang that my 50-something midwestern mother-in-law invented.
― joygoat, Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:53 (two years ago) link
you can go back just a couple of years earlier in the killer mike discography and find some much-less-veiled homophobic terms. "fuckboy" is a step up.
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link
I've got some bad news about ATCQ
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 July 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
i was enjoying BORN LIKE THIS the other day until "batty boyz" came on, this shit is everywhere
― Left, Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
yeah that blatant homophobia is hard to ignore, especially in dancehall
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
i say dancehall cause that's where doom got the batty boyz slang from
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
yeah it was basically the f-word equivalent at my school
― Left, Thursday, 15 July 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
oops Killer Mike's got Chappelle on his new track
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 09:07 (one year ago) link
DBNS
― Left, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link
That was really disappointing to see. Feels like a misreading of a large part of the audience he's gained since Run the Jewels blew up, but then again I see a lot of uncritical praise for the songs on Twitter so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link
Not sure how big the Anti-Chappelle Rap fan contingent is
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
The Chappelle intro is easy to skip at least. It's gross but not really surprising - KM hasn't taken issue at all with TI's creepiness about his daughter or any of that, BFFs with Bill Maher, etc..
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
not to mention appearing on NRA TV
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link
I can understand that appearance, as he believes in Black gun ownership as a means of self-defense given the lack of support from police, which makes total sense to me in the current climate. He was a bit naive to think the NRA wouldn't pervert why he was actually appearing, for their own reasons, which is why he apologized afer.
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
*after
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link