GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

That is spelling bottle episode to me.

Marnie is astonishingly beautiful even though there's some definite dad-resemblance.

the seinfeld/costanza comparison is otm. these characters are supposed to be funny above all else, and sympathetic to some degree, but i don't think that likeability is at all the point. schadenfreude is the operating principle. were supposed to laugh when they do dumb things, laugh when bad things happen to them as a consequence, and wince when it all becomes too humiliating to bear.

were = we're

NYT profile from over a year ago about adam driver, who plays hannah's gross dude (he's a stage actor who's been in 'angels of america' and an ex-marine who started an arts nonprofit for military personnel)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/theater/22driver.html?_r=1

yeah man marnie and charlie had the worst relationship, they are both way better off out of that nonsense, i hope this doesnt mean the end of his jerky pal as a character though, that guy makes me laugh

― max, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:08 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I LOVE this guy. I thought he looked really familiar but I looked him up on IMDB and it seemed like he'd only been in Tiny Furniture which I still haven't seen so I decided he reminds me of an irl person but I can't work out who.

I still really like this show and don't hate any of the characters tbh. Haven't seen this week's ep yet so maybe that'll change.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/jun/07/loves-lena-dunham/

why can't the nyrb just review books

Interesting article. Thanks.

yeah man marnie and charlie had the worst relationship, they are both way better off out of that nonsense, i hope this doesnt mean the end of his jerky pal as a character though, that guy makes me laugh

― max, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:08 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I LOVE this guy. I thought he looked really familiar but I looked him up on IMDB and it seemed like he'd only been in Tiny Furniture which I still haven't seen so I decided he reminds me of an irl person but I can't work out who.

he's v good in beeswax, which is great you should check it out

“[Adam Driver] has something of an old-school strong dude’s body,” said Ms. Dunham, whose show begins filming in New York in the spring. “He doesn’t look like a wimp, which in this day and age is who most 27-year-old guys are palling around with: men wearing very small pants.”

Underestimating how much strength required to squeeze into very small parts.

pants hah

idk, I feel like by 27 a lot of dudes are no longer in small-pants but this might be a lifestyle/regional thing

Look for NYTimes Magazine expose on this 27 yo dudes in small-pants phenom.

I think they already had a decade worth of that shit

he doesn't look like an old-school strong dude. he looks like a twink

I beg to differ based on my knowledge from friends of who qualifies for that

he doesn't look like an old-school strong dude. he looks like a twink
--Kiarostami bag (milo z)

Compared to the small-pantsers he's a regular circus strongman.

ffs, he looks like a type of guy that exists

he's a hologram

kind of hilarious to me that of the three dudes who have had the most screentime, two seem to be preoccupied with building things. lol handcrafted artisan ny

although Adam just seems to take his shirt off and put things in a vice, I haven't seen anything that looks obviously *made* by him yet, lol

i dont dislike any of the characters, they are all funny & good

― man down (D-40), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:12 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its like 'disliking' george costanza or something

― man down (D-40), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:12 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

deej v otm.

shoshanna being stuck in the room w/the sexing was HILARIOUS.

I loved that so much

rip new york review of books

feel like that article could have saved 500 words by just saying come

How often, in movies or television, do you see autoeroticism incorporated into a scene of two people having sex?

Yeah, really, there should be some place where we can see dudes jerking off onto women after sex. At the least, it'd be a good addition to porn. Hey wait a minute ...

pretty sure it happens more often than implied

this piece on women & sex & owning it openly - http://jezebel.com/5911023/rihanna-does-whatever-she-wants-with-her-vagina-and-for-some-reason-thats-a-problem - made me think of this thread

"But more importantly, Rihanna is very famous, kind of bonkers, and completely unfiltered. She behaves exactly like any average 24-year-old does (plus a million billion dollars)"

the thing is that the "characters" on Girls are more like people than most tv or movie characters, so much so that even a mention of "that didn't seem in character for her" is kind of hilarious to me because much of this show (all of this show?) is about how young people figure out and play with who they are as people - which funnily enough kind of involves trying on many different "characters"

jezebel article otm

Hannah propositioning her boss didn't seem that weird to me. Jessa told her she should do it for the story and, as a writer, she was probably figuring why the hell not? That's the sort of thing you think/do at 24 especially when a glamorous, cool, foreign chick who you probably sorta emulate just a little tells you it's a good idea.

got thru first ten minutes of the newest ep and was just too bored to continue. rip zeitgeist

btw two of my friends apologized to me last night after making fun of me for liking this show which they'd dismissed after the first 10 mins of episode one. They wound up watching 4 back to back last night and were like, uh, yeah so sorry about that!

girl i'm dating FLATLY REFUSES to watch one minute of this show after sitting through the first episode and starts an argument with me about how bad it is any time I mention that i'm enjoying it. she's pretty adamant about it!
but she loves game of thrones so we compromise.

weird. i love both shows, but game of thrones feels much more like a dumbhead guilty pleasure

this show is great. i am deeply suspicious of those who make such a big deal of hating on it.

i mean i totally understanding not "getting" it or it not being your cup of tea, but actually having a big issue with it?

I am 'getting' the characters more and more and it still makes me laugh so whatever...

i think bc of a few factors (the kind of coverage it has gotten, its zeitgeistiness, her 'voice of generation' comment, etc) ppl have felt implicated by the depiction of characters in the show. so there's a lot of defensiveness around it. most non-millenials i've spoken to who dislike it are more blase 'it was boring' about it. millenials feel repulsed tho, which is kinda understandable.

i know a couple of woman who find the show depressing, which translates for them as a kind of hate, but have only watched a bit of ep 1. they'll come around...

yeah women i'm talking about are millenials. either hits a bit close to home or they're like 'fuck these girls, i'm not them'

so i guess that makes me happy re: this show to be lower-end-gen-x and a sometimes tragically observational writer type

i think bc of a few factors (the kind of coverage it has gotten, its zeitgeistiness, her 'voice of generation' comment, etc) ppl have felt implicated by the depiction of characters in the show. ...millenials feel repulsed tho, which is kinda understandable.

oh, that makes sense. lol, i'm old, so it never even occurred to me that people might relate to it in that way. i just get to laugh at other people's problems.

Even with all that I find it difficult to understand strong feelings about this show one way or the other. It's just a group of post-college young people in New York who say funny things but otherwise don't do much of anything. What's there to feel strongly about?

I always envisioned 20 somethings living in NYC as being a lot better looking and more hip than these squares.

Kind of the point tbh

This show reminds me of Degrassi in so many ways.

<3 degrassi

that's a comparison i haven't heard that makes sense.
pecs mcanal as drake

i am usually pretty susceptible to I HATE THIS BECAUSE [EXTERNALITIES] kinds of feelings, so i've been making an effort to not do that w/ this, and it seems to be working because i've happily watched every episode and recommended it to people. i laugh more at it than i laugh at most shows.