Rolling like tumble weed Afro-Latin music thread 2012 (salsa, cumbia, reggaeton, tribal guarachero, etc.)

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Thought about going but couldn't get over there.

The Unbassful Serpent (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

x-post--if Wiki is right, I am learning stuff: Based in Puerto Rico, the Puerto Rico All Stars (not to be confused with the 1963 namesake band of a similar name, the Puerto Rican All-Stars Featuring Kako) were an alternative and rival to the New York based Fania All-Stars created by Johnny Pacheco....PRAS produced three albums that were released consecutively on an annual basis between 1977-1979.

1979 Puerto Rico All Stars Andy Montañez (Vocals), Frankie Gregory (Producer), Gilberto Santa Rosa (Vocals

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

x-post-Found on youtube some camera-shakey, poor audio footage of Oscar D'Leon at La Boom in 2011, but nothing otherwise on the recent tour in print or video. He was just in front of the mic, with a bandmate on the standup bass.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

I looked at the footage a month ago. Apparently he doesn't play bass for most of the show! Supposedly he said it was because he was tired of opening his case and finding toothpicks inside instead of a bass, so he gave up playing on tour, but it might also be because of his age and health. He does pluck on it every once and while to remind you that that is his instrument.

Shakes-a-maxion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

I think he just played it for the encore when I saw him way back when. But he was fairly energetic behind the mic and did a long show--not bad for a guy who I believe had a heart attack and was hospitalized for heart problems. The W. Post has archived most of their old reviews so I do not see mine online.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

Checking out the new Don Omar. There is apparently a Mexican beer anthem, as well as a song entitled "Zumba" which seems to be a Zumba anthem. It sounds okay so far, but I'm not thrilled to see so much song space dedicated to promotional considerations.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Kind of hating this now. I would have hoped for more from him by this point. What is this?

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol i've never had faith in don omar and an effing ZUMBA song confirms this

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

from kuduro to zumba. He does not care about hipness I guess.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

Big selling artists trying to maintain their popularity by shamelessly reaching out to various audiences

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think it's about reaching out to various audiences, it's about corporate sponsorship.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

i was going to go with "utter lack of creativity/musical chops". his last hit was someone else's hit with his name on it, etc

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

x-post--I guess RUN DMC did "My Adidas" before they had an endorsement. Not sure here about the Mexican beer plug. Zumba dancing/exercise is seemingly taught everywhere now, did one corporation trademark the name and do they receive money for its usage?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

i was going to go with "utter lack of creativity/musical chops". his last hit was someone else's hit with his name on it, etc

That too.

I don't know if he's actually getting money from the ZUMBA® people, but I'm willing to bet he is. (I'm not anti-Zumba per se. I would definitely consider giving it a try.)

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

wow

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

Another Mambo panel Saturday in DC at the Smithsonian Museum of African Art with a free performance from Bio Ritmo

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2012/05/18/metro-mambo-explores-the-fashion-that-went-with-the-rhythms/

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

Former Lead singers of Los Van Van, Mayito Rivera, Pedrito Calvo, Cesar - Puppy - Pedroso,
Lazarito Valdez & Bamboleo.
Manolito Simonet & Su Trabuco
Jose Luis Cortez " El Tosco" & NG La Banda
U.S Debut of Alexander Abreu & Havanna D' Primera.
Puppy & Los Que Son.
Special Guests: Former lead singer " Tania Pantoja"
" Vania Borges'

DJ Melao on the Mix.

From Havanna to New York Non-Stop Timba Concert.
Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 6:00 PM
THE COPACABANA
268 West 47th St., Corner of 8th Ave

curmudgeon, Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

I would probably go to that just because it's such a collection of top timberos (including a couple I at least like some of the time).

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

does flamenco belong in this thread? i'm reviewing a flamenco/R&B album (eh) this week...

Mordy, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

Not really, but go ahead anyway. There's not much action this year.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.ajwnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Caramelo-Ride-cover.gif

It's this one. Sara Erde is Jewish (which is why I was assigned it) but the album isn't particularly Jewish - despite some reviews noting klezmer elements (nothing I can hear tbh).

Mordy, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

As I've mentioned on a couple other threads, I like pianist Elio Villafranca's album of duets with percussionist Arturo Stable. I said on the jazz thread that (at least on the track I heard on the radio last night) it seemed as if Stable was pushing Villafranca in a more rhythmically adventurous direction, though there's less of whatever it was that I thought I was hearing along those lines on the whole album than I was expecting. (There should probably be another comma in there somewhere, but I don't feel like figuring it out.) Villafranca is an amazing virtuoso pianist but so far I haven't really been into his albums. He's way more enamored with hard bop than I am, but then again I don't even particularly like Latin jazz in general either. These stripped down collaborations work for me, though some stretches bore me a little.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

"Klezmer" feel, starting at 1:13 (and stopping wherever--haven't finished the song yet) on "Brooklyn."

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

This sounds like something they would play to death on KUNM (UNM's radio station, which I don't listen to any more). Not really into it, though it's not really objectionable.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

I could see the accordion on "Peligroso" conjuring up klezmer since there isn't really any tradition of accordion in flamenco (I think, but who knows what was going on when the international accordion trend was in effect?).

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

i think maybe i'm hesitate to code the accordion stuff as klezmer bc if that's the intention it's kinda a huge dropped ball. flamenco probably does have jewish roots, but it's sephardic + ladino. i wish they had done more there instead of this really broad eastern european (and tbh trendy brooklyn) sound.

Mordy, Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

As long as we are going off-topic here. . .

Best live act you've seen this year?

I see what you are saying, and I don't think the blend works real well on this album, but I also think if you push klezmer's roots back far enough, you'd get pretty close to the roots of flamenco as well. I mean, ultimately the roma influence is probably taking you back to India. At least based on my deep study of Wikipedia and the Rough Guide to World Music.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 May 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

I meant to quote what that links to:

A project put together by Orlando Fiol which used an Indian raag as the structure, while incoroprating jazz, western classical, klezmer and possibly other musical sources--and it worked! It did not come across as gimmicky, but rather, well thought out. Everything somehow seemed to be contained by the large mood of the raag. Of course, I know nothing about Indian classical music, and not much about western classical or jazz, but I was sold. That was just the first half of the program. The second was almost entirely percussion based, and mixed Afro-Cuban and Indian elements.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 May 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

Elio Villafranca's album of duets with percussionist Arturo Stable

I was not familiar with these Cuban-born musicians but I think I will give it a listen. I see that pianist Villafranca has performed live with members of Puerto Rican bomba group Los Pleneros de la 21 (whom I like a lot) so hopefully he can on album sometime do more than hard bop.

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 May 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, just read Rudiph and James redd comments on the jazz thread re Villafranca and Stable

Rolling Jazz Thread 2012

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 May 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

He can definitely do more than just hard bop; it's just that he tends to gravitate toward that, especially in a lot of his composing. He has done some other work incorporating Afro-Cuban traditional forms, but it hasn't quite worked for me. In addition to being a classically trained pianist with jazz training as well, he started off as a percussionist and he knows the traditions of one of the more obscure orisha-oriented religions in Cuba (I can't remember the name now). I haven't fact checked any of this, but it's all so vague it should be fine. Just remember to consult Wikipedia. Incidentally, I first became aware of him a long while back, when he played a benefit concert for the Free Library of Philadelphia. (He lived in the area and had a personal connection with someone who worked for the library. In fact, his then wife might have worked for the library, I can't remember now. As usual, small world.)

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 May 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

I've posted comments about him going back to 2002. Embarrassingly, all of them are practically the same.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 May 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

Hey guys, sorry if this is shilling too much, but my friend is trying to do the whole kickstarter/indiegogo thing on a book about music from Colombia, including bits of Cumbia, of course, and I thought some of you might be interested in it:

http://www.soundsandcolours.com/news/sounds-and-colours-in-print-help-make-it-happen/

emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

i'm glad someone's paying attention to vallenato. diomedes diaz's birthday is this weekend (5/26) iirc. (it's the same day as three of my bffs, that's why i remember)

game of crones (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

I like the little I have heard of vallenato on disc and what I heard live (at the Smithsonian Folklife Festival in Washington DC one year)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

It's pretty sentimental and corny if you listen too closely, but I like the instrumentation a lot.

game of crones (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

x-post-- N*d S*bl*tte says that big timba show in NYC is postponed to a June date tba.

He is also excited about: on Wednesday (23rd) there's a rare NYC show by Don Perignon y la Orquesta Puertorriqueña at the Crystal Ballroom of Taino Towers (DJ at 7, band at 8, 240 e. 123rd st.)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

An email from local DC area club The Salsa Room promoting their Memorial Day weekend events calls this "the summer of bachata"

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Don Perignon y la Orquesta Puertorriqueña would be worth checking out. Actually I missed them once when they were in the Philadelphia area and I guess I could have seen them. Not sure why I let it slip by since I was still trying to get out to things back then. (Maybe it was at the Camden Aquarium? That would explain it, since getting back from there at night always seemed dubious, though probably with the PATCO high speed line it would have been fine. I missed lots of stellar bands at the Camden Aquarium, notably a bunch of Willie Rosario shows.)

This is the summer of still having sinus and allergy problems, putting on more weight, discovering more restaurants, and trying once again to read Critique of Pure Reason. Oh, but that's just me. Actually, I am going to try once again to take a salsa class, starting some time next month. Also going to try to start going to the gym on my lunch breaks (on some days anyway) since by the end of the day I am rarely good for anything.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

I missed Tego Calderon's late-night gig at Ibiza in DC last night. It does not appear NPR Music decided to stream it, or the Washington Post decided to review it. Well, he doesn't have a new album out, does he, or even a mixtape?

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

But Juanes was clearly looking to the “Unplugged” session for something more than just another hit, an intention he signaled by turning to the singer-songwriters Juan Luis Guerra, 54, and Joaquín Sabina, 63, as collaborators. Not coincidentally, the older men are in a position to provide Juanes with advice: both enjoyed great critical and commercial success early in their careers, withdrew for several years and then came back, recharged and as popular as ever.

From the NY Times. Not sure that these collaborators will be enough to win over folks here

curmudgeon, Sunday, 27 May 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, fuck Juanes and fuck Juan Luis Guerra too.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 27 May 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/entertainment/2012/05/30/ruben-blades-cheo-feliciano-release-salsa-cd/

They sing each others songs

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

A year after the Grammy Awards cut 31 categories, sparking protests and a lawsuit by Latin jazz musicians, the music organization has made more changes by adding three awards, including the reinstatement of best Latin jazz album

From an AP article. Bobby Sanabria is elated. Everyone else yawns.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Bobby Sanabria is elated. Everyone else yawns.

This is what happens when Latin jazz is played, too...

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 9 June 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

Ha. It is formulaic these days.

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 June 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

Latin Alternative Music Conference in NYC

2 promising free shows:

Friday July 13
6:00pm – 10:30pm:
LAMC/Celebrate Brooklyn Show
@ Prospect Park Bandshell

Enjoy the outdoors under the stars in Brooklyn with LAMC and Celebrate Brooklyn featuring performances by Calle 13, Ana Tijoux and
Ritmo Machine.
This event is free and open to the public.

Saturday, July 14th:

3:00pm –7:00pm:
LAMC/Central Park Summerstage Show
@ Rumsey Playfield
Presented by Voto Latino and U.S. Army

Performances by Kinky, Los Autenticos Decadentes, 3BallMTY and DJ Raff
This event is free and open to the public.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link

apparently venus x is opening for calle 13 and 3ballmty at a single show but i don't know what/where that is, assuming nyc

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

That big Cuban timba gig (previously postponed) is tonight Saturday in NYC at the Copacabana

MEGA TIMBA CONCERT JUNE 16TH LIVE IN NEW YORK!

** PEDRITO CALVO MAYITO RIVERA PUPY PEDROSO MANOLITO SIMONET BAMBOLEO NG LA BANDA TANIA PANTOJA VANIA BORJES ** MUSIC BY DJ MELAO!!

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link


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