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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Schlafly

He was lead counsel for the committees to recall US Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ)[24] and US Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND).[25] In both cases, Schlafly argued that although recall for Senators was never provided for in the Constitution of the United States, a letter George Washington had written to his nephew indicated his "sincere" personal support for the idea, and therefore recall should have been considered implicit. In both cases, the New Jersey Supreme Court ruling on November 18, 2010[26] and the North Dakota Supreme Court on December 21, 2010[27] dismissed the petitions before them.

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

princeton engineering, harvard law, and still, this...

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

A letter George Washington wrote to his nephew is the same as a law because.... ok, I can't even think of any reason a person who has a law degree would confuse that.

mh, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

http://conservapedia.com/Fidel_Castro

Fidel Castro (August 13, 1926 - ~2009 )

In September of 2011, it was reported that a Venezuelan reporter had interviewed Castro [52], but independent media have not confirmed that this was not actually a doppelganger standing in for the long-deceased Castro.

In February 2012 the mainstream media reported that Castro met with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff. Predictably there have been no reports from the liberal media as to whether this was actually Castro or a lookalike [53].

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Ha ha

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

can somebody go edit that to "the lookalike"

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

the "talk" page re: "Castro dead?" is just amazing

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

Conservapedia was created in November 2006 by Andrew Schlafly, a Harvard- and Princeton-educated attorney and a homeschool teacher.[5] He started the project after reading a student's assignment written using Common Era dating notation rather than the Anno Domini system that he preferred.[15]

good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

It's booglarising my brain trying to work out how much of it is satire and how much is sincere.

thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's 100% sincere! It wouldn't be as scary if it involved Schlafly trolling the rest of the world in any way.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

The Bible Project is pretty stupid. I mean, I'm all for going back and re-translating, finding new sources, etc, but it's one thing to do that and another thing to go "This canonical thing that Jesus said, it sounds a bit commie, so let's just cut it out".

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

You can't fake this kind of hurt.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Canada, despite being the host country, was disappointed by its third-place finish in the overall medal count, and struggled even to win the gold medals in men's and women's hockey, its national pasttime. By winning medals in snowboarding, freestyle skiing and other "joke sports," Canada did salvage some national pride by setting a record for the number of gold medals in the off-season games.

Turn it up! Bring the LOLz!!

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

oh, that's ace.

there is an occasional pocket of resistance, or at the very least, self-awareness, on there though - I quite liked this : "It is well known, in fact that cats ARE dogs, in spite of what those silly, left-wing inspired dictionaries, naturalists, scientists, and pet owners claim. We at Conservapedia face an uphill battle undoing several centuries of leftwing brainwashing that attempts to sell the notion that these domesticated, four-legged mammal carnivores are different animals entirely, and as soon as I find some scientists and naturalists who agree with me, I'll be sure to post them as cites"

thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

The more I look at Conservapedia, the more I'm convinced it's an elaborate hoax. Then again that could be liberal bias on my part.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

So much O_o to choose from. From conservapedia proven right:

Date of Conservapedia statement : Oct. 14, 2010
Conservapedia statement: Conservapedia observes and predicts increased premature graying as a Counterexample to an Old Earth.[37]
liberal claptrap in response: Liberal denial that premature graying is increasing.
Result: A top actress -- Katie Holmes, the wife of Tom Cruise -- is observed having gray hairs at only age 33.
Date of Result: April 29, 2012

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

O_o_O_o

cats=dogs quote is fake, right.......right?

arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

It actually isn't fake. I *think* it is supposed to be funny though.

Saying that, I think this one is 100% earnest:

"While most scientists believe that the cheetah evolved, the very oldest cheetah fossils show us an animal that is just about like the cheetahs we know today. This complete lack of evidence for evolution, plus the intelligent specialized features of the cheetah, lead us to the conclusion that the cheetah is a special creation of God."

thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

It's good to point that out cos the first thing you learn in Biology these days is that evolution explicitly states that nothing is a special creation of God.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

well it kinda does

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

on the Seventh Day, God looked around and said, now for the finishing touch : THE CHEETAH, my special creation. I'm done.

thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

I feel like Christianity gets a really bad wrap from these guys. It's apparent they are super insecure about their faith, hence the need to be constantly kneejerkey. Dudes, if you are so threatened by a bunch of scientists trying to piece together the fabulous mystery that God created, maybe it's really your own lack of faith that needs to be analyzed.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

and struggled even to win the gold medals in men's and women's hockey, its national pasttime

this is kind of "maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half of the time."

Merdeyeux, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

man the "complete lack of evidence" line is so crazy. there are heaps of it! the amount is staggering, google it once! which enormous line of evidence do you even begin with? paleontological evidence? genetics? actual observations of natural selection??

reading convervapedia is kinda asking for it tho. i do it when i'm looking for legit excuse to go (%$#!@TUFNBydfghn;ff:LK at my keyboard

arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

it's a beautiful logic which goes "There are no fossils of cheetahs from before cheetahs evolved, therefore cheetahs must always have existed"

thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, if I had a 4-year-old I'd be gently sitting them down to explain, but an adult doesn't genuinely misunderstand such a simple concept.

thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

Here we go, this is the post I was looking for:

How Could They Believe This Stuff?

...Simple: if your base is a group that has been trained to reject truth in favor of faith in faith, they will believe anything because rejection of what "everyone else believes" is a bedrock article of faith and your very identity.

Let's be blunt: science has rendered a literal interpretation of any scripture, be it Bible, Koran, whatever, as impossible. For many religious people this means that they have sought out deeper meanings in a spirituality that depends on a more intuitive sense of meaning and purpose than a slavish attempt to follow texts that have been simply disproven.

But for another group - the fundamentalists of all religions - modernity has been "answered" by opting out or attacking facts as lies.

Enter Madrassas of all kinds, literal -- as in Pakistan -- or virtual -- as in the Evangelical home school movement and private school movement. Enter Evangelical TV and radio and publishing industry and mega churches as personality cults. Enter the "conservative" Roman Catholic bishops cut off from their own far more tolerant (and liberal) flocks.

The rise of the religious right within religion is designed intentionally to isolate, indoctrinate and "protect" from challenging ideas. Fundamentalist leaders, be they conservative bishops or evangelical leaders, do this because actual true information is no longer helpful to the fundamentalist religious cause. So that cause becomes about controlling the minds of the faithful by cutting them off from other opinions...

[...]

It takes training for years to reject what is true.  That training starts in a million Sunday schools and carries on through home schooling or private religious "education" and is completed in a hundred alternative Christian "colleges." It is sustained by a network of magazines like Christianity Today, World and many more. It has its own celebrity culture with heroes that no one outside the religious ghetto has heard of but who are selling literally millions of books to their followers.

Is it any wonder that a bedrock article of faith in the Republican Party is now that public schools are evil? Is it any wonder Santorum says he objects to President Obama saying all kids should work to go to college? In fact anything public and open to accountability is to be feared. Education is feared most of all.

All public space is hated because in that space, from infrastructure projects to the Federal Reserve to the UN to all government agencies, there has to be an acceptable baseline of fact that everyone buys into.  Universities and the media - both places where ideas are discussed openly - are hated most of all.

So public space is demonized because by its very nature it falls outside of the control of the "mullahs," -- i.e. the pastors and bishops and celebrity religious leaders that are fighting off facts to maintain their control of their flocks. And the government is demonized because it imposes a rule of law over and above the Bible's mandates.

And that is why "They" -- the bedrock supporters of the Republican Party -- do what they do and allow a Santorum to emerge as a serious candidate. The base of the Republican Party don't live here in our world anymore, they have moved to the Bronze Age and like it there.

The problem is that the "conservatives" (who are actually revolutionaries) are not content to just live in their private space and indoctrinate their children. They want to make the rest of us reject facts and move into their time machine with them and travel back to a world safe from truth.

And the far right of the evangelical movement and far right Roman Catholic bishops are also at war with their more moderate people.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Predicted that Sarah Palin will not be the Republican nominee for president, after observing how Facebook (which personified her political approach) lost the Academy Award to The King's Speech.[38]

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 May 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

signs and wonders

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

Is it any wonder Santorum says he objects to President Obama saying all kids should work to go to college?

I though this was more of a sop to blue-collar tradesmen who're glad they have no student debt.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

Also, tbf to Schlafly or whatever his name, the switch from AD to CE always struck me as not quite up to par, though I am far from religious.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I think most of the right wing's policies are straight up economically driven. This guy can tell himself schools are hated because FACTS and SCIENCE vs. THE BIBLE but i think really it's that Republicans want to cut the hell out of spending and lower taxes for rich people.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

It takes training for years to reject what is true. That training starts in a million Sunday schools and carries on through home schooling or private religious "education" and is completed in a hundred alternative Christian "colleges." It is sustained by a network of magazines like Christianity Today, World and many more. It has its own celebrity culture with heroes that no one outside the religious ghetto has heard of but who are selling literally millions of books to their followers.

This is Orwell's doublethink in action, i.e. setting up a comprehensive programme of deliberate misinformation, by people who actually seem to not realise that they have set up a network with the express purpose to mislead through lies and/or are perpetuating all that deliberate misinformation

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

i get those sorts of book donated to my work ~every single day~

arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

i get four times as many nora roberts but

arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

the scale of self-deception required to knowingly operate such an elaborate scheme of nonsense with utter conviction is just astounding xxp

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah i think the BCE/CE thing is kinda ridiculous too because it's not like the whole counting system isn't still based on jesus (although i mean BC is one thing but AD is a little pushy) but it's still lol that this was what made him realize a revolution was necessary. xps

good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Monday, 14 May 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

I kinda love SEO now, all urls are great

http://www.conservapedia.com/Mystery:Did_a_Fake_Fidel_Castro_Meet_the_Pope%3F

dayo, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

Space Jam 1996 PG Michael Jordan uses the help of beloved children's characters from the '50s (a simpler time in America's history) to beat back foreign invaders who wish to take away our freedoms.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link

Native American is a term that can either refer to an American Indian or to anyone born in America as an American.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Greatest_Conservative_Songs

JoeStork, Monday, 9 July 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

Union Sundown 	Bob Dylan 	The title says it all. 

Tom Crucifictorious (Leee), Monday, 9 July 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

Thank god conservatives have stopped putting "Won't Get Fooled Again" on these fucking lists.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

"Waiting List" Dr. Octagon A powerful song about socialized medicine and rationing

a-lo, Monday, 9 July 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

finally convinced that site actually is a joke

Chris S, Monday, 9 July 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

"No Children" The Mountain Goats A song about a marriage falling apart because the couple has no children to hold the family together.

JoeStork, Monday, 9 July 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

Let It Be - The Beatles - Very popular in Russia under the Soviets

Wait, what?

Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 9 July 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

"Pray" MC Hammer Working hard and giving thanks.

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Monday, 9 July 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

Animal Collective, 'Chores' - "Now I've got these chores / and I'm not gonna hurt no-one" -- Hard work is praised and violence is discouraged. A scary song for liberals!

Clay, Monday, 9 July 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link

Chris Mooney covers Conservapedia in his great new book, excerpted here:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/chris-mooney-republican-brain-science-denial

He mentions that Schlafly's arguments are horrible b/c they're not arguments to persuade at all; they're more an inner re-affirmation of belief an recitation of tribal slogans. Dude does this shit to buck himself and his team up, not to convince others.

Steam Sale Jonesin' (kingfish), Monday, 9 July 2012 05:00 (eleven years ago) link


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