in terms of hipster appeal
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
instant clusterfuck, just add youtube girl
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
there was a clusterfuck about the "pink and purple" song? i thought it was cute.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
no, i mean this thing (and LDR). i watched the pink and purple video cuz someone linked it here somewhere, but remember nothing about it. aside from, yeah, was cute.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
oh i know, that's why i put it in quotes.
you misread something
i haven't really made ... i merely suggested
no, what you missed was ...
i was referring primarily to ...
that's part of what i meant when i said ...
no, because i'm not saying that you're wrong to hate it.
honestly contenderizer i don't get how you don't expect people to get pissed at you when you spend most of your time telling people that disagree w/ u that they're not understanding what you're saying, it's like really really really condescending and lame
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
but that girl was much younger, right? like 8?
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/images/ic/credit/640x395/l/le/least_weasel/least_weasel_1.jpg
^^ this is you, contenderizer
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
i think that, though neither is homogeneous, it would be hard to find two cultural groups in america with less in common, aesthetically and philosophically, than adult male music critics and teenage girls
Tbh adult male rock critics are about as catty as teenage girls
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
pffft everyone is catty on the internet
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
so what am i supposed to do, man? you came at me hard (and in massive, full-flame condescension mode, btw), and kept reducing things i'd said to weird, distorted cartoons you could sneer at. so i tried to explain myself - speaking simply and struggling to avoid insult and condescension. if that's infuriating, then i'm at a loss.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the late great, Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:24 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
truth bomb
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
i think i'm just disappointed that kitty pryde isn't a flaming queer. like that name is perfect for a baby dyke with a brightly colored fauxhawk.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
re: lastweasel
that's a pretty cute guy, late great! if i'm him, then i'm okay with that. but i don't think i've "weaseled" here. instead i think that you and deej were strawmanning me like champs, and instead of freaking out about it, i just tried to steer things back the points i was actually trying to make.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha strawmanning, you're the one that lumped us in with these unnamed people who shit on teenage girls
ok ok ok i'm sorry, let's hug it out
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
cont and deej are kind of perfect yin/yangs of each other because they both think they're constantly explaining themselves perfectly and are just horrified to be still so apparently misunderstood
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
i formally apologize for accusing the late great and deej of shitting on teenage girls
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
truth bomb (much as i hate to admit it)
it frustrates and confuses me to no end
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
i accept your apology, and in turn i extend one for coming at you hard
but hey, work hard, play hard
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:30 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
why r u even arguing with me in this thread other than you are constantly trying to beef w/ me?
'my world of young people' = 'in my anecdotal experience, people in my peer group' dont know why that was so confusing for you
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
everything ain't beef dogg tone it down like 800%
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
comparing me to contenderizer is serious bizness sorry
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
she has 1600 twitter followers. o_O not even CLOSE to popular
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
with teen girl culture
lol
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3h58af1Jv1qbxhluo1_500.jpg
this is black veil brides. they have 192,000 Twitter followers and teenagers love them. They've never gotten a New York Times profile
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
i can see why
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
can we safely assume the "why" is because they're not interesting to hipsters
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
thats what im sayin doe
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
this strikes me as naive. you guys are just saying that there are teenage girls who make music that seems "good" according to your values, perhaps according to "established rap values" or w/e. that's fine, but it doesn't mean that other music can't be just as successful according to other standards.
most (or all?) of the teenage girls who are currently making good rap music are challenging those "established rap values". try again, son.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
syllogism! try again bro.
― balls, Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
also spin's gotta love having an editor who rejects the idea of catering to yr readers. money well spent!
― balls, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
spin's readership might have been hit recently but i doubt that they're doing so bad that kitty's 1600 twitter followers are going to hurt the bottom line
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
recently = this century? since guccione sold it? anyone here actually think whiney's gonna be working at spin in five years? anyone here actually think it's gonna be his choice? continue to be mystified at the times is more interested in catering to tumblr hipsters than metal dorks though.
― balls, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
i think the most garbage-y thing about this is that the music doesn't really do anything - there is a rhythm to her lyrics/delivery but the backing music is seriously lacking in that department.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah her video ain't exactly blowin up. slow news week I guess.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link
meanwhile the "cracker might be the police" has been intermittently stuck in my head for the past 24 hrs.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link
^^^that song bangs imo
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
it does, as does the Sasha track you posted!
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
yup, on both counts.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
the new york times caters to metal dorks too but only hipster metal dorks
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
that cracker might be the police (Repeat)
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
rofl @ reading this thread and seeing deej once again getting all haughty over "my world of young ppl". like seeing an old friend.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 May 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
getting "haughty"?
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, i'm sure they are, to some extent or another. but if their product nonetheless scans as "good rap music" to rap experts, then it's likely more in keeping with the genre's established standards than KP's shit, which most ILX rap fans seem to agree is complete garbage. to seem like "garbage" to the arbiters of taste in a given genre is, by definition, to have failed in relation to its baseline rules and values. to seem "good" is to have succeeded, to be more inside than out.
like, this is novelty pop (popular or not). therefore, it wouldn't be interesting to anybody unless it actually did seem novel on some level. and that novelty value isn't limited to KP's appearance. it's also present in her delivery, language and sensibility.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 06:12 (eleven years ago) link
which most ILX rap fans seem to agree is complete garbage.
Glad we all agree.
― Bulge Pimp (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 13 May 2012 06:29 (eleven years ago) link
Dog rap fans hating something does not make it novel
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 07:01 (eleven years ago) link
no, it but it does make it "bad rap" according to whatever evaluation criteria they're using.
the novelty argument is only tangentially related. "good rap" could be novel too, though likely in other ways.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 07:09 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks very insightful way to say nothing
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 07:11 (eleven years ago) link