R.I.P. 30 ROCK R.I.P COMMUNITY R.I.P. PARKS & REC

Parks renewed for 13 episodes and slated for the fall, so a back 9 isn't out of the question. Up All Night also renewed. Not so much with the overhaul, then.

ughhhhh fuckin Up All Night

ParkandRec has been renewed for 22 episodes, not 13!

Whitney also renewed.

haha jesus christ

Outsourced aside, pretty much all the new comedies NBC has canceled in the past 2 years are far more tolerable than the ones that have been renewed

HAPPY ENDINGS will be back for a full season of 22 episodes.

^^^Important news not to be slept on^^^^

Yay for P&R, Up All Night and Happy Endings!

Hope that The Office really does go away, but it probably won't.

Parks renewed for 13 episodes and slated for the fall

Good news for Schur's proposed arc to have Ben working in D.C. through the first week of November.

glad for 'up all night' even though i've never watched it tbqf, a friend of mine is on that show.

more interested in watching 'parks and rec' or 'community' at some point.

are you friends with the baby

is the baby ur friend on up all night

Up All Night has the same general feel as Modern Family to me, except there are fewer characters to follow and it's (thank goodness) not shot documentary style.

I do not watch Modern Family regularly, though, so I don't have the same sort of attachment to any of its characters as I do Up All Night.

hooray for everyone!

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Up All Night has the same general feel as Baby Blues comic strips to me

lovin this tv analysis

some dude, have you watched Up All Night at all since, say, December?

Really glad Parks & Rec got the full pickup. It's the least niche-y of the ones I watch, and I feel like it could really catch on with more people if, like, more people would watch the fuckin' thing. Plus this last season was so good. So yay. Also yay to Happy Endings, which I only really caught on to shortly before the season ended, so I have some catching up to do.

probably, but not much -- i made some effort to give it time to improve, but obv once it starts to feel like a conscious effort to 'keep up' it becomes kind of a lost cause to do so (xpost)

so community is on for a fourth season reduced?

yessssss, so glad parks and rec got the full 22!

yeah Community is confirmed for 13 eps (although the possibility appears to still exist of more episodes being added or it suriviving past next season, not a firm "13 and that's it" thing as previously speculated).

the onion article speculates it's essentially coming back as a "new" show, competing with the other new sitcoms for the back 9. oh yeah, and Dan Harmon might be stepping down as showrunner.

very happy about P&R. figured Happy Endings had a good shot at renewal

wtf gr80

dan tweeted that if he stepped down as showrunner, it wouldn't be just because chevy is dick. like that article reported. then again he didn't flat out say "no i'm not stepping down" so PANIC

ughhhhh fuckin Up All Night

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpYhGdrknlA

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i tell markers what banks told me, go head switch ya style up

Amazing fact about NBC: Harry's Law, which they've just cancelled, was their most watched scripted show.

Wow. Yeah, that just about sums them up, all right.

i didn't even know that show existed until just now

That show was part of why they brought Spader in on The Office.

Was it Harry the judge from Night Court?

n, Kathy Bates.

It was a pretty stupid decision, calling a Kathy Bates Harry's Law. I mean, "that show with Kathy Bates" and "that Harry's Law show that I don't know what it is but which I assume is a courtroom drama about some dude named Harry" were two distinctly different entities in my head for most of the show's run. But I guess I'm not really the target demographic, so whatevs. Still, I feel like the networks aren't really thinking some of these show names through (wondering if GCB has really caught the public's imagination...bad sign when your brand new show's title is an acronym that's basically undecipherable out of context).

For all I know, Bjork and Tim Burton will be taught in schools 20 years from now

like, yeah, there are alienating elements to these shows that make them less likely to achieve Wings-like ratings, but if these shows age like SCTV...I'm fine with that.

You don't think a joke that a DVD of s1 of Lost is a metaphor for lack of payoff will resonate less with people who didn't actually watch six seasons of Lost from the beginning?

Tbf, the Bjork and Tim Burton references probably fail to resonate with a lot of people now (see note about my parents).

I think Community is off-putting for new viewers, (Seinfeld probably was too--taking several episodes for viewers to figure out who you were supposed to be rooting for: no one) but it's not really any more of a serial comedy than most other sitcoms--certainly not like Parks and Rec with its season-long story arcs. What do you really need to know about the Community mythos to enjoy that Law & Order parody? These characters are wacky?

How about e.g. "Virtual Systems Analysis" (the dreamatorium episode)? That said, HIMYM is pretty serialized and seems to do OK.

I was just trying to think of reasons why this show lacks the mass appeal of Seinfeld. I think we're actually in agreement there though.

I was just trying to think of reasons why this show lacks the mass appeal of Seinfeld. I think we're actually in agreement there though.

Ha, damn cut and paste! This was supposed to go right under the sentence about Bjork and Tim Burton.

Heh, on two recent occasions, I've tried/struggled to explain the Mackenzie Brothers to people in their early 20s (from the Prairies no less!).

But yeah, no, I never doubted that these shows would age as well as SCTV.

(Admittedly, I never got the Mackenzie Brothers until I moved to Saskatchewan.)

I was just trying to think of reasons why this show lacks the mass appeal of Seinfeld. I think we're actually in agreement there though.

not too sound like a jerk bc i really like community but maybe one reason is that Seinfeld was just a better show in almost every way, and a more groundbreaking show when it aired. community is wonderful imho, but there's just no comparison.

Apples and oranges, really, but we've had that extensive discussion before. For reasons that continue to baffle me, as their similarities seem to begin and end with their shared status as NBC sitcoms.

No, I don't think the two shows are similar at all. I was only comparing them in terms of popular appeal and only because someone mentioned Seinfeld earlier.

(I'm just watching the most recent Community btw and, while it doesn't seem like their best, I don't see how someone could get this without having see the previous episode.)

"just watching... now btw and..."

not to reopen a whole other conversation but community + seinfeld are similar enough (american network sitcoms around the turn of the century) that any comparison seems fair to me.

Well, then, I guess I just disagree that Community is obviously a worse-crafted or less innovative show.

Also, I finished watching. There are references to about half of s2 in this episode! And even stuff like Chang's pre-teen army only makes sense if you saw the episode when it was introduced. I don't see how someone who just dropped in would get as much out of this as someone who follows the show.

well this was a fake clip show.

I think after the last hiatus community just sort of gave up on accessibility (and on a lengthy future).