Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak Thread 2012

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Third dude, at least as of a year ago, is John Shaw, late of Son of Earth. Tall skinny dude with a beard?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, tall skinny dude with beard. Maybe heard Gangloff mention him as well, so must be the case. Never heard Son of Earth, any good?

grandavis, Friday, 11 May 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

I like 'em. They're very, very, very quiet. Like, almost 'electro-acoustic' quiet, at least on their best albums. A tough live proposition but definitely worth it if you give it the time. I recall one show was the three of them sitting on a wooden floor in a semi circle rolling a big heavy silver ball to each other, creating a soft rumbling sound. Band also featured Matt Krefting and Aaron Rosenblum (later of Sapat).

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 12 May 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

Cool, thanks. Sounds like a nice live experience, actually, as long as the bill wasn't set up to be a "rock" gig. Wish I could see more shows like that these days, i.e., non po-faced "electro-acoutic" shows (not that those can't be good too): but kinda pranksterish, fun, and inventive sound-for-sound's sake shows. Actually work with Krefting's brother sometimes, who was really amused that anyone at work knew who his brother was.

grandavis, Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

Well, another "show report" post here, but I just saw Man Forever (aka Kid Millions, or John Colpitts as he is known these days) doing his "Panasophical Cataract" show, and it was really cool. I saw clips of earlier instances where it was just he and another drummer doing an eternal single-stroke roll, and while cool enough, I think it was probably way cooler for the performers than the audience in a way. Last night it was the full-band experience, and what I like about it is that he is recruiting different people to do it every night. It sounded great (oddly enough Mike Gangloff from Pelt was the keyboardist for this version and was awesome), really heavy with just random syncs between the three tonal instruments and the constant but constantly modulating patterns of the twinned single-stroke rolls from the snare. At times the air would be completely sucked out of the room when a certain set of frequencies/tones were held by the instruments, and then at others the whole room would seem to lift when a consonance between them was hit. Pretty mesmerizing, for sure. 27 more dates on the tour, so I definitely recommend folks go if it swings through your town. Hell, you may even be able to perform in it if you contact Kid, he needs to fill the band out in each town. Hit him up, sure wish I had been playing in it.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Love Kid Millions! Sounds very righteous.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Hey all, want to make sure regular thread readers know about this thing I'm helping put together:

For Lee Jackson in Space: a tribute album (one for the psych/drone fans)

Final tracklisting to be announced next week. It's a doozy already!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Ned, that looks very cool. Always makes me really glad when a community rallies around a person, represents the best parts of humanity to a degree.

Not too get too sappy here, but the Man Forever show was especially cool because Kid had sought out people that meant something to him to play the piece. He would go see Pelt before anyone knew who he was, and was thus psyched to have Mike Gangloff in the band for the night.

So yeah, the show was righteous on many levels, go see it!

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the man forever stuff sounds neat-o. wish he was playing somewhere near me!

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

there's a live set on fmu here: http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/45071

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

A friend of mine recorded the show here in Charlottesville as well, will probably get a copy of it at some point. Who played on the WFMU version, do you know offhand?

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

says "Man Forever is (today at least): Kid Millions + Brian Chase, snare drum; James McNew, bass; Dave Kadden, organ; David First, guitar. "

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Cool, thanks! Gonna definitely check that out.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

the "eternal single-stroke roll" you mentioned is actually sort of amazing. seems like it is going to be boring but is hypnotic.

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, the music was great, but honestly the theater was way more entertaining than I thought it would be as well. Kid sits kinda zen-like through the whole thing, as obviously he has done this a bunch, but in talking to him it was made evident that this is not easy for him to do at all. Very tough physically, though he made it look effortless. Contrast this with the other drummer, which on this evening was Nathan Bowles from Spriral Joy Band (and late-period Pelt as well I think), who grimaced and puffed and just gutted his way through it, whilst never letting the roll stop. Was really interesting talking to both of them afterwards, and yeah, it just wasn't boring at all. The longer it went on, the more entrancing it got. Really heavy with the rules-based playing of the other folks too, subtle note shifts would just become epic events.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the fmu thing is just ridiculous in terms of physical stamina!

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

WFMU set was cool, definitely close to the live set I saw, but I must stress that live it was WAY cooler. I think the guys playing last night got a little more interesting with the set of limitations, or just hit more strange moments with them by accident, but it was definitely heavier. Part of that is probably just a room sound vs. the radio (the drums in particular lost weight on the radio for me, but my computer/headphones also suck, so that might not be helping), but I would strongly recommend that anyone digging that radio set go to a show if Kid hits your area.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

So hey folks, the Lee Jackson tribute full tracklisting info is up:

For Lee Jackson in Space: a tribute album (one for the psych/drone fans)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

I am really digging this Robert Turman album, though it's squarely in Drone territory and not so much Psych/Freak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PKWTsKXExE

Maybe it'd fit better in the Disintegration Loops thread, I don't know. Rolling hypnotic lo-fi minimalism 2012.

strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, it's a reissue of a 1981 cassette on Spectrum Spooks, who also did that Franco Falsini Cold Nose reissue.

strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

Cold Nose is so awesome.

van smack, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

It is!

Oh and Spectrum Spools, y'all, my bad.

strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:56 (eleven years ago) link

Spectrum Stools?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway, For Lee Jackson in Space is now live:

http://forleejacksoninspace.bandcamp.com/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

Spectrum Stools?

and/or Rectum Stools

ilxor, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

Oh joy!

Now ilxor, you do know there's a Six Organs track on that tribute there, yeah? :-D

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

Man, Ned, that comp looks like a list of all the artists I've been getting WAY into for the past couple years

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 7 June 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

Just reading your mind, is all. Well, maybe.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

That's a pretty great lineup! Is there a physical version or just digital? I'll buy whichever there is but if there's a choice I'll buy physical.

(And I guess it would be in poor taste to wonder how the Azusa Plane ended up on a tribute to someone who died 6 years after Jason DiEmilio, so I'll just be happy that one of AP's most immense tracks is now out there on a new release to be heard by more people.)

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

Just digital. Far easier to manage!

Not in poor taste: Lee was a huge fan and had noted Jason's passing with sorrow, and Carol Dale had offered up the use of anything from Camera Obscura if desired. Combine that with said track's immensity and it all clicked.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

That's cool, seems like a good pairing! And now I look more closely, yeah, I guess this would run to around 10 CDs, so I don't blame anyone for not wanting to take that on in physical form. Wow.

Thanks, Ned.

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 June 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

Yer welcome!

Tonight's Chromatic Aberrations show on Radio Valencia will focus on selections from the album and there will be a podcast version later:

http://radiovalencia.fm/chromaticaberrations/2012/06/06/chromatic-aberrations68-12am-for-lee-jackson-in-space/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

That comp looks amazing, well done indeed Ned!

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

Found this on one of my scandinavian music blergs: Starlight Serenaders "Orange Wind"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rP7oIX-QCU

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

Hey ho, new Peaking Lights streaming here:

http://soundcloud.com/weirdworldrecordco/sets/peaking-lights-lucifer

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

good show at the flywheel:

MAN FOREVER
Enveloping drum wash - like Tony Conrad's Flicker turned into sound, played on one sixteen foot drum - by Kid Millions (Oneida) and Richard Hoffman (Sightings) and maybe others, I dunno.
BENJAMIN MILLER
Feeding Tube Records record release show! Deconstructed multiphonic guitar, tapes, voice, etc.
GARY HIGGINS
Yes, THAT Gary Higgins, of the classic 1973 psych-folk LP Red Hash.
THE SEDIMENT CLUB
Can we talk about their parents? They were in the Bush Tetras and the Voidoids.

$8

scott seward, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

i might go to this local color show coming up at the 'wheel too : Steve Baczowski, Chris Corsano, Paul Flaherty, Bill Nace quartet

scott seward, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

I've been somewhat familiar with St Louis based electronic musician Raglani for years, but I'm listening to his 2010 record Of Sirens Born and it's sounding very fresh
This morning's review on Dusted of his new one is what stoked my interest

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Scott, I covered this pretty heavily above, but will definitely say that the Man Forever show I saw was excellent. Not for everybody, but I found it really compelling on multiple levels. If Richard Hoffman is playing as well that is a big bonus, he's great.

Really though, with Gary Higgins on the bill as well seems like a complete winner of a night.

grandavis, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Can someone tell me more about the essential Sylvester/Silvester Anfang (II)? I bought the new one on a whim and now almost immediately i want more.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Not trying to make a big 4th of July brouhaha or tie-in, but this is pretty astounding (and I only know about from someone posting it yesterday, so there ya go). I really dig when someone can translate themselves so succesfully into a known commodity and kick your ass with it, and this just delivers on that idea on so many levels for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=USlBuN_g5T8

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

Ah shit, not sure why that didn't embed properly, but it is Bill Orcutt doing "The Star Spangled Banner".

Fuck it, here's some more Orcutt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyiDepQQ56o&feature=related

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

think i hate bill orcutt. anyone hear the new corsano?

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

that Orcutt SSB was way great; thx grandavis

heaven needed someone who rhymed with 'poop' (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

Sure thing LLB. New Corsano I have heard sounded great, but just a track or two. Those two songs made me want to hear the whole thing without a doubt though.

I can see Orcutt not being one's thing, but glad that is not the case for me.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

there's some corsano vids on the ecstatic peace site, they're coming from the young cricketer end of things which is great by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bNsmvCSaU

really thought i wld dig orcutt & there were a few initial things that caught my ear but the more i've listened to the more limited it sounds. i wish i cld just write it off but there is still an overall neatness to the phrasing, his technique is obv pleasingly & he has v appealing moments but i am mostly bored by the one-note sleepy-drunk lofi sloppyness of it.

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Corsano covers a lot of terrain successfully, that clip is great. Orcutt is definitely playing from a limited palette, and I can only take it in smallish doses (that 20 minute clip above seems about right as far as what I could get through live, depending on him mixing it up a bit), I can get being bored by it. I don't get sleepy-drunk (or lo-fi actually) from it at all though. He seems heavily invested in it, and attacks the guitar with a lot of gusto. Not necessarily vituosic (a la much of Corsano's stuff) but certainly accomplished. I get what you are saying though, would certainly come across that way if you aren't feeling it.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Any opinions on the White Manna album to be had here?

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

moreover

Can someone tell me more about the essential Sylvester/Silvester Anfang (II)? I bought the new one on a whim and now almost immediately i want more.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

i did find this, and it is highly recommended by me if you like a driving kind of dark rockabilly vibe with your clangy psychedelic guitar noises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3x2VRG92c

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link


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