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hm, cool, thx.

oh i left out the 1/3 cup broth. anyway...thanks

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

If you did use 5 whole shallots would that seem to be a proper amount of paste for the dish? Shallots (and onions, garlic) get much milder in flavor when they're cooked, so if you're worried about it being too strong I don't think there's a problem there. And based on the other ingredients that sounds like a reasonable amount of "base" for a sauce/paste.

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nickn, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

ha, yeah, i think it'll be ok, i worked myself into paranoia considering that if the author meant cloves i would be using like 3 or 4x the intended amount. how my brane works. i have the shallots all peeled and in the food processor, it seems right.

oh good, i am out of ginger. darn.

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

My 2 sets of muffin/scone rings arrived yesterday...made my first batch of crumpets this morning. A+++, especially with the lemon curd and blueberry curd. Also with just butter...also with butter and honey. I'm full.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not nearly as experienced w/ Indonesian cuisine as I am with Vietnamese/Chinese, but in the latter case I've found there's a lot of slipperiness in the naming of alliums. 'Shallots' might be intended to indicate chives, leeks, garlic, scallions, just as 'limes' might signify lemons, bergamot, tangerines, grapefruit, some strange local thing that has no analog known to English speakers. Coupled with the (relatively) impressionistic style of most Asian recipes, and a total lack of standardization w/r/t size, 'five shallots' can mean, anything from a handful of chives to six vidalia onions.

remy bean, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

So now that we've cleared that up....

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

My girlfriend asked her grandmother for a family Thit Kho To (New Year's Pork) recipe, and was told to get three medium hard porks the size of a baby's head, cut them into little pieces about the size of a finger, marinate them in five spoons of sugar ('tablespoons? teaspoons?' 'no, this spoon right here...') from tea until the sun goes down, etc., etc....

remy bean, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

oh, and you needed to add a little glass cup of the fish sauce that comes in the bottle with the red rose on the cap, and but not the red rose with the thorns, because that one will totally ruin it

remy bean, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

lol that is awesome. and maddening.

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Let me just get my little glass cup, I have it here somewhere.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

wow

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

that's like a hardcore version of getting recipe instructions from my Mum

"oh I just use a dash of this...no don't use what it says on the recipe, use this other thing that you would never know about unless you asked me....double that, but not evenly, so you have a little more than you would if you double it"

*throws bowl at Mum, storms out of kitchen'

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

ha, yknow i never knew that was a thing. mom cooking. my mom always had cookbooks, used real measuring utensils etc. i was looking through her old cookbooks recently, the ones from when we were growing up, and she kept track of dates she made them all for us, whether the kids and dad liked it, variations on the recipes she tried, that sort of thing. notes all over every recipe she made for us, it was the sweetest thing!

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

my mother has only four margin notes, and they are next to nearly recipe. they are:

'great' = great
'very good' = 'good'
'good' = crap, will never make again
'excellent for a party' = 'pain in the ass, too expensive'

remy bean, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

wow that ginger on the right looks like a teddy bear

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

uh can i have some of those chilies too, thx

xp a meeellllting teddy bear

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

I'm thinking more like an R Crumb Keep On Truckin teddy bear

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

the one on the left is a little pet dinosaur

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

they bout to walk off with yr chilies, watch it

wahoo my soup is done!

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

it's p darn good

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

It sounded like it was going to be good -- how is the shallot paste used?

I set up that little scene in my produce market btw -- then I left it there for others to admire. I wonder how long it lasted?

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

you stir fry the chicken (3 breasts cut in lil strips) a minute then add the paste and keep stir frying a few minutes more before you add abt 7 cups of broth and the rest (tamarind, lemongrass, a few green onions)

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

simmer a few mins and done, easy recipe.

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

that sounds GREAT. vegetables?

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

it didn't call for any, but it's a pretty brothy soup so the addition of some veggies i think would be v welcome

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

i got it from the book Splendid Soups which really enormous and awesome. like 600 pages? all soup.

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

oh Lech, I love you! It would have made me so happy to see your ginger buddy scene during mundane shopping.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

i put it there around 4, so the after work shopping crowd hopefully saw it :)

re: soup - i think you should put some baby bok choy in there

i am currently making a cold lentil salad for my class potluck tonight

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

great minds, bak choy was my first thought :)

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

whoa whoa whoa what abt PUMPKIN

i've seen this in similarish vietnamese soups w/ chicken and scallions hmm

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

food is so good!!!

arby's, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

The only cooking note that I got from my mom is her mnemonic device for remembering which envelope of taco seasoning to buy: "french's is fine, durkee is dandy, but schilling is shitty".

joygoat, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

oven-roasted tomato pesto over pasta
pumpkin baked with wine and onions and nutmeg
cauliflower with onions garlic ginger cumin coriander lemon cinnamon

kind of a weird mix of stuff but was gooood

just1n3, Friday, 11 May 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link

My girlfriend asked her grandmother for a family Thit Kho To (New Year's Pork) recipe, and was told to get three medium hard porks the size of a baby's head, cut them into little pieces about the size of a finger, marinate them in five spoons of sugar ('tablespoons? teaspoons?' 'no, this spoon right here...') from tea until the sun goes down, etc., etc....

― remy bean, Friday, May 11, 2012 3:18 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh, and you needed to add a little glass cup of the fish sauce that comes in the bottle with the red rose on the cap, and but not the red rose with the thorns, because that one will totally ruin it

― remy bean, Friday, May 11, 2012 3:20 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahah this made me lol because I am like this with my cooking instructions. No wonder my mum gets so mad at me, when I show her how I do things, shes like BUT HOW MUCH FLOUR and I'm all "you know, the usual amount."

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 11 May 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

harold wrote back to me!

About hot-water doughs--the heat partly denatures the gluten proteins, so they become less able to bond to each other and form a strong network. That's why the dough is less elastic, more plastic and easily shaped as your father says.

dayo, Friday, 11 May 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

zojirushi rice maker has arrived. looking forward to using it soon!

mh, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

is red sauce with mushrooms cool or lame? i have about a cup of red wine i could put in it too. i want it on pasta with sauteed broccoli rabe on the side, ok? how do i make the sauce? i also have a shallot.

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

i happened to get 2 tv chefs' books from the library yesterday and mario batali has a recipe i can convert. i got cremini mushrooms instead of porcinis so it'll be a little less exciting.

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Friday, 11 May 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

I reckon red sauce with mushrooms is totally cool

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 May 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

I don't even like mushrooms and it sounds pretty good.

I'm going to guess the cooking process would be something like this, in order: heat oil, sautee minced or sliced shallot until softened, add herbs & seasonings & sautee, add mushrooms. Let mushrooms sweat out moisture and let pan get dry-ish again, deglaze w red wine; add tomatoes of some sort and let simmer for...10 mins? 20? Mount w chunk of butter; pull pasta out of the pasta water and add to pan for final stage so it soaks up some of the sauce as its last bit of water.

This is what I would do, given no cookbook at all.

I like the versatility of mushrooms in pasta sauces. Meatiness/umami in red, delicacy in white.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Friday, 11 May 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's a staple around here
no shame in the mushroom game

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Friday, 11 May 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

i never put butter in it though?

i made a delicious mushrooms-with-bechamel thing recently that i think i may recreate tonight on account of this thread
thanks

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Friday, 11 May 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

harbl that is exactly what I would do; gotta say I think butter is urgent and key

quincie, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Dry off your shrooms before sauteing <--julia child protip

I slice them and wrap in paper toweling for an hour or so.

Jaq, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

for clarity - i put butter in bechamel, just not red sauce.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I don't do butter in red sauce

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

But I'm thinking this isn't so much a red sauce as like er the kind of red wine mushroom sauce you would serve on a steak? OK maybe I am missing something here--ah, OK, pasta sauce. Yeah you could skip butter but man some butter would be good.

quincie, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link


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