Is it time for us nerds to start anticipating THE AVENGERS, directed by Joss Whedon?

Power Pack would be ok, but Black Panther a la Hudlin is one I'd really like to see. Did the animated version planned for BET ever happen?

they made an animated black panther thing. i think it's on netflix instant.

she managed to avoid being hit from point-blank range by hawkete about ten times at the start, i wasn't too sure about that tbh...

i figured that mind-controlled hawkeye wasn't quite as good a shot as real hawkeye

like, his (suppressed) conscience was fucking with his aim

xp - I agree entirely provided that Hudlin is a typo for Priest.

please please please make Dr. Strange/Clooney vehicle happen

cosine

I'm all for a Clooney version of Strange, especially if they can get footage from ER to use in flashbacks.

A Doctor Strange movie would be neat, but I can't see how you could do it psychedelic justice considering the rather conservative aesthetic approach of the Marvel Movie U (i.e. Thor shoulda looked a lot cooler).

Thor = the movie, not the character.

eh Thor's pretty smashy-smashy, even in the Kirby era, never really thought of him as explicitly psychedelic. at least, not the way Dr. Strange is.

but a Dr. Strange movie could accomodate a fair amount of post-Harry Potter/Tim Burton/proto-goth/vampire silliness

That would be an actual crime.

There was this one extra in the movie that kept popping up, too, at the end. First you see her in the coffee shop through a window looking scared. Several minutes later you see her being loaded onto an ambulance or evacuated or something. Then during the news scroll at the end she gets a few lines, saying she was forever grateful to Captain America or something like that. Maybe she's Whedon's niece?

Cool to hear Maria Hill is a real character. Hope she turns up later. I don't watch those shows she's on, so I was just struck by this model dropped into the SHIELD milieu. Not that there are a lot of ugly female superheroes ...

I would love a Dr. Strange movie.

I just meant that occult/magic stuff has a lot more cultural currency at the moment, and a Dr. Strange vehicle could take advantage of that. Not that it would be good as a sub-Twilight campyfest.

Loved the way Stark tried to recruit Banner to work for him. Most realistic moment in the movie.

I didn't really word my initial post well, sorry

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eh Thor's pretty smashy-smashy, even in the Kirby era, never really thought of him as explicitly psychedelic. at least, not the way Dr. Strange is.

It may be telling that my ideal Thor movie involves Ego, The Living Planet. Let's hope that's the sequel.

lol would totally watch that YES

they already did an inhumans storyline with FF, right?

more of this please, Marvel Entertainment

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tW3g8zCM6c0/StEhemj_e2I/AAAAAAAAAVQ/F-KC75gyIn0/s320/ego+spread.jpg

tiny pic not really doin it just there :(

What seems to be a (minimal) gamble on the part of this movie and to an extent even Thor is opening up the layman Marvel universe, for lack of a better term - the superheroes swinging and fighting it out in cities - to the greater, nerdier Marvel universe, which includes countless metaphysical journeys, intergalactic wars, neo-theology and the like. I wonder how many fans of this movie know who Thanos is?

the use of Thanos makes me genuinely sad. The story behind the character's creation is so cynical. as a Kirby partisan it just seems like yet another in an endless series of indignities

well, i like starlin but i do agree with you in principle

As shitty as the Kirby/Avengers situation is (pretty goddamn shitty), it's fair to consider Thanos' creation, at least in its original context of Starlin just having fun, as commentary and not so much exploitation/stealing.

I like Starlin too!

not as much as the New Gods tho. Starlin is like the Bee Gees to Kirby's Beatles.

xp

no argument there. But i think baez is right on and starlin is head and shoulders above someone who is just openly looting the kirby vaults... say, byrne for instance.

can someone give me a brief summary of what you're talking about here? i take it from upthread that thanos is an imitation of a dc character?

Meryl Streep as Thanos.

thanos, a godlike interstellar khan character created by jim starlin, is an imitator both in character and look to the earlier, kirby-created darkseid.

Darkseid is DC. Thanos is Marvel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkseid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos

Thanos is an homage/ripoff of Kirby's character Darkseid from Kirby's Fourth World/New Gods cycle, which was one of the first things he created after his incredibly bitter departure from Marvel at the end of the 60s

it is interesting how little interest the marvel superhero franchises have had in the psychedelic/cosmic stuff that was once their bread & butter. thor flirted with it, but toned things down quite a bit. suppose that makes sense. mind-bending pop weirdness doesn't sell anywhere near as well as "realistic" action. i wanted a lot more psychedelic imagination out of the LOTR films, too. orange skies, purple trees, impossible structures and anatomies.

seems like they were inevitably headed in that direction with the FF movies (you can't have the Silver Surfer without Galactus, really) but that franchise is obviously dead now

the thing you need to know: both thanos and darkseid are, effectively, gods that fight superheroes and worship death

blue skin, living planet, mind-melding

The FF movies came with the Marvel logo, but they weren't Marvel Studios. Marvel Studios movies, I imagine, will stick very much with the flattened out reality of the Avengers-related movies - you won't see any extreme stylization; I can't imagine that Raimi's charming little exclamation marks in the first set of Spider-Man movies (the way he'd cut at a particular moment as someone's screaming at the screen) would be allowed today.

seems like they were inevitably headed in that direction with the FF movies (you can't have the Silver Surfer without Galactus, really) but that franchise is obviously dead now

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:42 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

They had Galactus. He was a Warren Ellis-style cloud thingy

speaking of thanos/darkseid, i thought loki's 'i will liberate u by making u a slave' thing seemed like a pretty blatant anti-life equation ripoff?

more nod than ripoff, but yeah

man it feels like ppl have been trying to make a doctor strange movie for forever

famous monsters of filmland used to print a list of movies in development in every issue, I remember seeing doctor strange on there back in the late 70s/early 80s

or maybe it was just this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077469/

ha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFCL0eCjnsA

yeah, it cracks me up when places like the new yorker refer to spider man / xmen as the first marvel movies.
we've been here before but with less at stake.

Was "X-Men" the first good Marvel movie?

"Blade" or "Blade 2?"

How quickly we forget Howard The Duck.

Blade was two years before X-Men, if that rocks your boat (it does mine)

Blade II was 2 years after, same year as Spiderman.

. i wanted a lot more psychedelic imagination out of the LOTR films, too. orange skies, purple trees, impossible structures and anatomies.

I would see the SHIT out of this movie. Can't wait for Avengers, but yeah, I'm pretty sick of 'gritty' 'realistic'. One of the reasons I prefer 60s Batman to any of the modern ones.

ah, whoops yes, the new yorker used howard as a referent.
but that's not right!