(THIS) POLL REVERE(S) — ILM Artist Poll #19 — Beastie Boys VOTING THREAD

feels just like a continuum of awesomeness to me.

Ill Communication always seemed like a more stoned version of CYH, more fuggy. Still a great album though, yeah.

Listening through to Hello Nasty now, seems a lot better than it sounded last time I listened to it (probably about eight years ago). 'Intergalactic' can do one though, the sole BBs song I'm sick of hearing.

man I love the second half of Ill Communication, a thing in itself, stoned I guess but def reaching for something else, cosmic, the kind of thing you can get lost in. It's their best album imo.

for the record re PB's reviews; in the 33 and a 3rd book about it there's a quote from TIME magazine(!) that says 'this album is as important to 1989 as Blonde On Blonde was to 1966'. it was raved about in the UK; even the likes of Q magazine went majorly mental about it and they ignored almost all rap.

this is entirely my fault for trading too many phish tapes in the 1990s, but half the time I listen to sabotage and it gets to the wwwWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAUUuuuuuuuuuuugggggggghhhh part, i keep expecting to hear Trey from Phish singing it. but it says something about the song and about phish that it got a bigger response out of the crowd than anything else I ever saw them play.

one aspect of Ill Communication that I definitely get tired of is all the distorted vocals.

nothing you can say about Phish can ruin Sabotage for me, no sir

one aspect of Ill Communication that I definitely get tired of is all the distorted vocals.

yup, it's a good trick, served CYH well, but they really run it into the ground on illco

wonder how many more votes this gets than the all-time hip-hop poll. i'm gonna say 25-30.

it doesn't ruin it for me, exactly. god, i was rolling when i saw them do that too. it was a really faithful cover. just a different vocal timbre.

otm a hoy hoy, that poll's popularity was ridic disappointing

like Ill Communication, the second half of Hello Nasty is open-ended & spacey, a monolithic groove with lots of rooms to get lost inside; really loving HN on this relisten

always hear a lot of complaints that HN drops off in the second half but I dig it, it's structured like a party where the beginning's all wild and exuberant and by the end ppl are sleeping on the lawn or staring contemplatively at the fishbowl or giving incomprehensible shout-outs and listening to lee perry albums

but end up quietly reflecting on their own mortality

ha! yeah, i love that shout-out track. also the one that's like "ravers of the world - UNITE!"

I think I like that aspect of the Beastie Boys, the reclining into self-awareness in the second halves of their albums (after LTI, I guess); but it's especially vivid in their three 90s albums. I recognize the switch but it's a turn-on for me after the boom of the singles.

this goes out to..... NEWCASTLE.... where VENOM come from

idk just listened to Ill Communication and was really feelin' that second half. Stoned jammy murk forever. This poll is impossible.

yeah that side is the best

wonder how many more votes this gets than the all-time hip-hop poll. i'm gonna say 25-30.

― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:50 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm a hoy hoy, that poll's popularity was ridic disappointing

― Euler, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:54 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, it's a lot easier to get your mind around a handful of albums than three decades of history in one of the most vibrant and active pop genres. plus ILM rap, R&B & dance music heads are super territorial and dismissive of incorrect/inexpert opinions. takes the fun out of those genres for me (at least as they exist on this board).

Having that Beach Boys thread up at the same time as two important Beastie Boys threads is fucking up my game a little.

so am I the only one here planning to vote for Groove Holmes? I've always dug that jam more than pretty much any of their other instrumental tracks (save, perhaps, for the +dB remix of Flute Loop that's on one of those Mo' Wax Heads comps). Then again, you could play chopsticks on a B3 and I'd be prob be smitten somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgJdgHiIMNQ&feature=related

I ended up choosing between In 3's and Groove Holmes... Holmes lost this time around. But I fuckin love that track, no matter what.

Groove Holmes is on my master list. Tomorrow i'm gonna game the two instrumental records + TT5B + whatever the last one is and.... aww jeez.

Speaking of instrumentals, I finally got a copy of the Mix Up. It's really freaking good.

i like "groove holmes", but it won't make the final cut

17 ballots in now and the results are still shifting all over the place.

Groove Holmes is pretty great on the album where it is, but it wasn't one of my top instrumentals. no instrumentals made my list actually, although I kinda regret that vis a vis Eugene's Lament.

hate to be all serious acid jazz head here but i honestly can't imagine listening to any of those beasties instrumentals on their own

I voted! Lots and lots and lots of weird bits and deep cuts on my ballot. Not being hard or anything, I just always liked the weirdo tracks on their albums rather than their party-hop classics. It's all good though.

I much prefer Ill Communication to Check Your Head. Check feels disjointed to me in a way that Ill Comm doesn't, but then I heard IC first and had come to a lot of the instrumentals on Check through the In SOund compilation, so that's always messed it up for me.

HEy, I always loved Johnny Ryall and Egg Man from Paul's Boutique - thought they were highlights!

Ill Comm had great instrumentals too - Always loved Futterman's Rule and Transitions

surprised by the number of people who fail to get with my consensus

Also come to the conclusion that Hello Nasty is their best album. Edward III is 100% OTM about the second half of that album.

late great - lay some fresh acid jazz on me. my experience was limited to one Acid Jazz label comp and a Groove Collective record back in the heyday.

money mark - "money mark's keyboard repair"

a good roy ayers comp

you can stop there

lol. all I remember was plunking down $9.99 for something with James Taylor Quartet on it. it was really underwhelming for all the hype about acid jazz.

Also come to the conclusion that Hello Nasty is their best album. Edward III is 100% OTM about the second half of that album.

― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:33 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

I agree as well. The high points might not be as high but it is more consistent than any of the others, even given its length.

hate to be all serious acid jazz head here but i honestly can't imagine listening to any of those beasties instrumentals on their own

yeah I didn't vote for any of them

money mark - "money mark's keyboard repair"

this really is such a great album

srsly though i got into acid jazz partly through the beastie boys thing and then into trip hop and i still listen to trip hop (like old portishead and tricky and mo'wax and ninja tune albums from the 90s and even more obscure stuff) but acid jazz stuff i am completely over

the thing is that it's 99% just lesser imitations of actual jazz-funk and soul-jazz from the 60s and 70s and you certainly don't need me to recommend you any of that because i'd just be recommending all of the dudes that the beasties shout out to, herbie hancock, jimmy smith, freddie hubbard, donald byrd, eddie harris, les mccann, ramsey lewis etc etc etc

yup

If we're talking about BBoys' cohort albums, Hurricane's album is really great too (and has one track with the Boys on it).

thing is at the time it was easier for me to find the imitations than it was to find the originals. Groove Merchant was insanely pricey!

xp

Hurricane's best moment was the Afros album

which is fucking hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRvyFTLnu-E

love mark's keyboard repair so much. such a dusty, warm, weird little record.

Okay shit...I've never heard it, but I'm all over this Afros track.

whole album is great. produced by Jam Master Jay

I'm listening to Money Mark's 'Push The Button' album for the first time in about 14 years. Nostalgia RUSH!!

loved that album