Matthew Perpetua and Fluxblog make the NY Times, fame and fortune is his

oh okay i love blount. hate ott. got confused.

haha mookie never would've guessed

haha knowing who balls is makes me less inclined to snap on him and much more able to shrug this sort of thing off. that said, given the decimation of venues for sanely paid music-crit over the past years, and everything else that's conspired to destroy whatever it was that maybe some of us thought it could offer and what could come of it, pointing the finger at ilx in relation to this in any way whatsoever seems beyond bizarre.

also yes i'm super-defensive w/r/t any criticism of the voice's old music section.

i thought ilxors made pitchfork better, actually. or maybe i liked some of them anyway as crits and i would like them anywhere. didn't have to be pitchfork.

no shame in being defensive abt things that are worth defending

xp

yeah, i am too obviously. defensive. i thought it was cool even when it was fucked up. i can't think of anything like it right now.

I know him as the dude from that pic w/ the pineapple

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:53 PM (3 hours ago)

and was never clear why some of ilx seemed obsessed with him (e.g. whoever edits the ilx wikipedia entry)

o i agree it's just ten (TEN) years ago when the music 'writing' on ilx was better than 95% of the music writing i'd find elsewhere if you'd told me that ten years later ilxors would be all over music criticism esp at pfork i would've assumed that obv the state of music criticism had improved, esp at pfork. and i'm not sure it has. then again maybe it has - tom's popular is fantastic and marcello's then play long is really really incredible, but neither of those guys are getting paid. perpetua is. ilx doesn't bear any responsibility for this state of affairs obv.

the wiki edits are easily the funniest thing dom has ever done

i never understood it either. but then i don't go on animal collective threads or whatever he was into so i never saw it. and i didn't follow the whole inside baseball blogosphere thing. if you were into that stuff i guess you would have reasons to be mean? i have no idea.

x-post

nothing but love for voice's old music section, nothing but love for voice's current music section really or at least much love to maura for the molanphy/shipley chart/radio geek rotation - if grantland had pop culture writing similar to this the gulf between their sports writing and pop writing wouldn't be quite so huge, could easily see molanphy as a bill barnwell parallel.

i think pitchfork has some of the best writers around writing for it right now. um, not that i read it much, but occasionally something will get linked and i see good stuff.

i mean i'm just not that interested in a lot of pitchfork type music, but i think the talent is definitely there.

There's a market near me that I know has really excellent pineapple.

I don't particularly like pineapple, but I know it is good.

Uh...

there is this sort of irony that we idolized a certain sort of rockwrite and aspired to it, but the process (writ large) by which we became part of it was also the same process which killed it.

one thing i would love to see is certain ilxors (past or present) taking pieces/ideas they couldn't sell elsewhere and doing kindle singles w/ them. for example would LOVE to see the seward version of this: http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Rock-Albums-1970s-ebook/dp/B006TV1HKQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336535928&sr=8-1

i hate pineapple

i also used to not understand why lots of good music writers aspired to nothing more than leaving it behind. then, unfortunately, i got it.

My feelings about pitchfork and pineapple are similar.

you find them sweet and chunky?

tom and maura among others have grappled with this -- how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good? the straightforward answer is just, i think, lolmarketforces.

xp - lol mookie, real answer: i very rarely consume either

tom and maura among others have grappled with this -- how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good? the straightforward answer is just, i think, lolmarketforces.

― s.clover, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the answer, i think, is that morally good /= "i actually want to read what you have to say" good

like, democracy is a wonderful ideal, but a very poor editor

yeah this is stupid as hell but i think i might've actually thought at one point that the easy instant access to music now meant that the descriptive role and judgmental role of rockcrit would fade away (you no longer needed the critic to tell you what a record sounded like or if it was good, you could find that out yrself immediately and in less time than it took to finish a review) and we'd be left w/ actual insight as the goal ie good criticism (or my definition anyway). this didn't happen, if anything the opposite. now post-deluge rockcrit's main role seems to be as a filter, ie i'll check out something if it gets best new music or 4.0 or higher at resident advisor etc but i pretty much never actually read an actual review and i'm not sure i've ever seen lex have any kind of actual insight but as a filter he's very effective, a much better algorithm than pandora or whatever.

^otm^ and made me sort of wistful/sad

My feelings about pitchfork and pineapple are similar.

This seems an appropriate time to mention that Ted Leo once interviewed both me and Perpetua backstage at Pitchfork Music Festival about our taste in fruit.

"chunky"

how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good?

LOL comment boxes

actual OLL

democracy, as it happens, sucks

Fruit is great! </rhonda>

that seems like an oversimplification, if for no other reason than how many people on this message board must be overweight, including his tormenters

― some dude

under appreciated some dude posts I have read

nothing but love for voice's old music section, nothing but love for voice's current music section really or at least much love to maura for the molanphy/shipley chart/radio geek rotation - if grantland had pop culture writing similar to this the gulf between their sports writing and pop writing wouldn't be quite so huge, could easily see molanphy as a bill barnwell parallel.

― balls, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

aww my love of balls is reciprocated

the irony that chris ott shares his name with a useful internet acronym that describes his writing just now dawned on me

rev going ham on anco is the best btw

and i'm not sure i've ever seen lex have any kind of actual insight but as a filter he's very effective, a much better algorithm than pandora or whatever.

― balls,

That's a bit unfair, I dunno about his reviews but i've seen excellent lex posts full of insight that have made me actually want to check out whatever hes writing about.

I always get happy when balls posts here tbh

"for example would LOVE to see the seward version of this"

thanks, but you know what, i'm inspired by marcello. he's basically writing a book on his blog and that seems like the way to go for me. just gonna keep posting essay-length things on my blog when i feel inspired (perhaps linking things thematically as if they were chapters), and when i have enough stuff, maybe see if anyone is interested in publishing. i do like the idea of real books.

i do like the idea of real books.

I do too, and it's my wish to publish one in the next few years, but my conflict has always been how much attention to give non-fiction versus fiction, in addition to not wanting to surrender a quite decent job. I don't know. Confession time: I've been glum the last seven or eight weeks wondering what or the hell I'm writing for; although my blog gets a decent hit count I don't know whether it matters. I still do the occasional professional reviewing job. I just tell myself to keep writing, that the writing is its own defense. I don't ever envision a moment when I'll say the hell with it: I love it too much and I need it, pure and simple. But the question of who the audience is never fades.

AG completely otm

excellent lex posts full of insight that have made me actually want to check out whatever hes writing about

b b but balls was opposing these two ideas!

as filters AG and Lex are p much oil and water

i'm dense, who is AG?

AlG

aww my love of balls is reciprocated

― some dude, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:22 AM (2 hours ago)

Filing this post away for future, totally out-of-context, use.

already did

i'm dense, who is AG?

― goole

― Algerian Goalkeeper,