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i think brett favre is about as disliked as roger clemens these days, both w/attendant comedic blundering re: extramarital misadventures, though at least brett seems to have kept it 100% age of consent.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:07 (seven years ago) link

manning bros are genuinely beloved imo, favre is "a legend" whom no one actually likes anymore, not even GB pack fans it seems.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:09 (seven years ago) link

i'd say peyton is/was a better quarterback, had a longer 'prime' than favre and was definitely smarter/made better decisions

otoh there was a window there in the mid-90s when favre was making throws i don't think i've ever seen anyone make (maybe because they were too smart to try). and, probably unfairly, i think favre's half-assed exit has diminished his, uh, legacy

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:24 (seven years ago) link

Favre really screwed up his legacy by hanging on going to other clubs. He played Ok, but he killed his ties to the home club Packers going to the Vikings then being such a whiny chump on the will he retire or won't he and getting busted flashing his junk on a cell phone. I think it paid off in the short run, sure...but I think Packer fans and cost him ALOT of unconditional appreciation from the fans that really backed him.

That said, really when Favre was cool was around the couple of years before the Pack won it all when he was tossing underhanded 20 yard passes for TDs and head butting people. Favre was so bad in the playoffs in those dome games, especially how many games they won in the regular season, it took like 5 or 6 failures and the Giants game the last time for the talking heads to shut up and finally realize their messiah kind of was sucking in the playoffs big time and playing like a gd idiot at points.

But in a way that kind of goes to show how deep those early years in Green Bay really were...especially considering how bad the Pack had been for more than a couple decades (and yet still kind of loved by the NFL fans overall). He did put that club, which is really unique back on the map and did so with flair.

Peyton is similar to Favre that he brought an old storied club the Colts who had been a laughing stock and moved back to being respectable. In game play, the dude is the complete opposite and his general on the field game play is kind of unique. Manning is the best general on the field probably ever in the history of the game. Marino had a better arm. Montana was just cool and played on a killer all around club.

earlnash, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:45 (seven years ago) link

Good post, i agree. Also take my opinion with a grain of salt, I'm a Bears fan, so I'm supposed to hate Favre.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:13 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

obama's gonna need to bulk up. he makes Eli look huge

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:00 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

semi-serious question: eli manning = HOFer?

1) does he deserve enshrinement
2) will he be enshrined

nomar, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:48 (four years ago) link

no, no

lag∞n, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:48 (four years ago) link

probably not but probably will

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 November 2015 21:10 (four years ago) link


NATION: ? ? ? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 November 2015 21:52 (four years ago) link

hear that every time I see his face

NATION: ? ? ? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 November 2015 21:52 (four years ago) link

it would purely be for the 2 super bowl wins, he really has nothing else on his resume and if pass stats continue to trend upwards that's be even more the case by the time his eligibility rolls around. phil simms prob has a more reasonable claim to the HOF and he probably isn't getting in either.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 November 2015 21:54 (four years ago) link

he could always win a 3rd champ of course. with how good the patriots look this year it would be a good season for the giants to win again.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 November 2015 21:56 (four years ago) link

he's going in, no question. there's a reason a guy like joe namath, more or less the eli of his day, is in but guys like, idk, mcnabb or boomer esiason will never have a chance. dude's got two super bowls and will probably end up between 6th-8th in all-time passing TDs by the time he's done. probably won't deserve it though, unless he has an unexpected final act

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2015 03:46 (four years ago) link

it's funny looking at old football stats, such a different game. like namath threw 173 TDs and turned the ball over 243 times in his career and he's a legend

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2015 03:47 (four years ago) link

he'll get in due to manning halo effect and the super bowls, everyone will forget he was never a top 5 quarterback in any season of his career.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:14 (four years ago) link

I love Eli because he helps illustrate that the modern version of this game is total bullshit

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:28 (four years ago) link

And yes 100% HOF first ballot duh

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:28 (four years ago) link


Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:43 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...


Peyton Manning: Documentary Clip Shows Quarterback Chiding Brother Eli for Eating Chips Loudly

nomar, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 22:55 (three years ago) link


lag∞n, Saturday, 27 August 2016 16:21 (three years ago) link


Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 August 2016 16:59 (three years ago) link

And yes 100% HOF first ballot duh
― El Tomboto, Monday, November 2, 2015 11:28 PM (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post

whoa whoa whoa

chicken lit (rip van wanko), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:10 (three years ago) link

two rings as a QB def gets you there, but I'd like to see him sweat it for a year or two

chicken lit (rip van wanko), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:12 (three years ago) link

i would guess eli is the worst qb to have 2 rings? he'll certainly be a test case whether or not that is automatic entry. barnwell gave him 40% chance to get in in a recent article.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:18 (three years ago) link

either him or roethlisberger

Eli has had a better career than Plunkett, who also won two Superbowls.

earlnash, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:34 (three years ago) link

eli's last couple seasons have been good, and the two seasons before his hilarious 2013 were almost as good. i think his cameron frye persona masks some of his skills and intangibles tbh.

nomar, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:37 (three years ago) link

Eli is in the Hall of Fame. The dude is Payton Manning's brother, won 2 Superbowls in New York and beat the Patriots in a couple of the most ridiculous ways possible.

NFL Hall is way more about the Fame than greatness, that's why they put in like a QB and WR and maybe put in a whole O-line every 20 years.

I've said it before, greatness in the NFL is a whole lot of luck. Tom Brady gets drafted by the Chiefs, he might have been great, but he wouldn't be Tom Brady you know now.

earlnash, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:39 (three years ago) link

...that's why they put in a QB and WR nearly every year....

earlnash, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:39 (three years ago) link

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