Had never seen this. Now I have. Wow!
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
:D
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
It's great no matter how much people want to rearrange the canonical furniture.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
Citizen Kane = Magnificent Ambersons = Chimes at Midnight = F for Fake = Touch of Evil
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
You'd need a big room for all that furniture.
esp if Orson is living there
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Saw this at MoMA tonight, forgot how funny Susan's vocal coach is.
also you *do* see William Alland (the reporter)'s face out of silhouette on a big screen.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:20 (ten years ago) link
Oh, this isn't original point, but the movie announces its theme:
"It's the greatest curse that's ever been inflicted on the human race: memory."
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:22 (ten years ago) link
The Film Doctor records the reactions of his students to CK:
E: "It had really nice cinematography, but I felt that the plot was not there. They built up this whole two hour thing about 'rosebud.' You want to find out the meaning of 'rosebud' is, and then they drop it in five seconds, like, oh, we didn't find it. Whatever. Not a big deal."
FDr: "And you didn't find it was enough of a payoff at the end."
E: "Yeah."
D: "That's like part of the beauty of the movie, that you can make it the focus of a two hour movie. 'Rosebud' is not really the focus of the movie. It pulls all of the characters together. It's really amazing that you can make an entire film about one word, which ends up being not that important at the end."
FDr: "According to Pauline Kael, 'rosebud' was basically a gimmick. It still unifies the movie. Other people's thoughts?"
K: "I think Kane wasn't very popular in this class because it dealt a lot with newspapers, and that's not very big in our generation."
B: "Most movies now are just made for teenagers, and this was made before that."
FDr: "Yes, it was made more for adults. Since it doesn't cater to your age group enough, you don't like it as much?"
E: "We're so used to big action films."
FDr: "Yes, one could say that all started with Star Wars in which you've got to have a climax every ten minutes."
E: "Yes, when you come to Citizen Kane, it's just the story of a man's life, but there's no big explosions, which we've gotten so used to."
http://filmdr.blogspot.de/2015/04/the-jigsaw-puzzle-vs-explosion-student.html
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 April 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
FDr: "That would be my fault. Guilty as charged. Of the various films we've studied so far, what has been your favorite? What would you say is better than Citizen Kane?"
L: "Moonrise Kingdom."
― Οὖτις, Monday, 13 April 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
FDR's golden touch extended to children, I see.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
at least no one complained that it was in black and white
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 April 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
lol, but actually not so bad a class discussion
teacher’s condescension maybe worst look of all:
Does messing with a figure of power not matter to you all? If there's no magical hammer for a character to throw around, or a comic book shield, then you don't get involved? Superheroes on motorcycles jumping out of jets as things explode--that's all you respond to?
― drash, Monday, 13 April 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
yeah that didn't seem warranted
― Οὖτις, Monday, 13 April 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
leading question
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
tbh the general public's attitude toward kane in 1941 doesn't seem to have been terribly different from these students' responses. the preview-audience responses to ambersons (before it was hacked up) are really depressing to read.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 April 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
I have talked about Citizen Kane with 12-year-olds, and shown clips from it. Many of them were very interested. One year, I remember two or three of them pleading to tell me what Rosebud was (which I of course wouldn't--"One day you'll watch it"). I don't know the Film Doctor, but if he can't get students interested in Citizen Kane, maybe that says more about him than the students.
― clemenza, Monday, 13 April 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link
Should read "to tell them," as I'm sure you figured out.
― clemenza, Monday, 13 April 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
i first saw CK when i was about 10 and loved it (despite not understanding much of it), but i always assumed i was just a weird kid.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 April 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
@NickPinkerton Citizen Kane spinoffs I would watch include 'Boss' Jim Geddes, Girl on the Jersey Ferry in 1896, and Two Techs in the Rafters During Salomé.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link
that guy has the best twitter.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
so long as he keeps the quotation marks around Boss
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
KANE FOUND IN LOVE NEST WITH 'SINGER'
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
"He wanted to take the quotes out!"
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
SIIIING SIIIING
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
Kathryn Trosper Popper, Welles' personal assistant and last living cast member of CK (two lines), died Sunday at 100.
Several versions of the script vary, but in the version of the film that was released, Mrs. Popper is uncredited, but she can be seen taking a flash photograph directly into the movie camera, then from afar, climbing off a ladder. According to Mr. Lebo, she says, “Yeah, all in crates,” referring to curios that Kane shipped to Xanadu and never unpacked.
“You put all this together, the palaces and the paintings and the toys and everything, what would it spell?” a newspaperman asks.
“Charles Foster Kane,” Jerry Thompson, another reporter, replies.
“Or Rosebud?” the first reporter says. “How about it, Jerry?”
“What’s Rosebud?” Ms. Popper’s character asks.
“That’s what he said when he died.”
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kathryn-trosper-popper-dead-last-873587
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/movies/kathryn-popper-who-had-tiny-role-in-citizen-kane-dies-at-100.html?_r=0
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
Her first visit to New York was with Welles to promote “Citizen Kane.” She moved to the city a year later, befriended many celebrities, wrote a hibachi cookbook and never left.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link
a bunch of Kane 75th anniversary stuff here
https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-citizen-kane-75-and-bordwells-rhapsodes
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/04/29/celebrate_citizen_kane_s_75th_anniversary_with_this_supercut_of_homages.html
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link
I got the new Callow bio on hold.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link
on YT, for now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDgSgCo6z3Q&feature=youtu.be
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 May 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
that doc has a lot of bullshit about kane being based on welles
― remove butt (abanana), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link
Mank?
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
This is a thread
My long-awaited (by two people) CITIZEN KANE story:After NYU, I was working in a film restoration lab in NYC. It had two employees. Me. And a crazy, secretive Yugoslavian chemist that had devised a treatment that could remove most scratches from film.THREAD pic.twitter.com/WmNpJNygOi— Nicolas Falacci (@NickFalacci) February 26, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
my students are writing about it this weekend!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 February 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
"OR ELSE!" "Yes Mr. Soto. *whimper*"
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 February 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link
Mr. Soto’s last warning.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 February 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link
I've seen every episode. Power to the people!
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
Okay so
https://www.criterion.com/films/32250-citizen-kane
New 4K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrackIn the 4K UHD edition: One 4K UHD disc of the film presented in Dolby Vision HDR and three Blu-rays with the film and special featuresThree audio commentaries: from 2021 featuring Orson Welles scholars James Naremore and Jonathan Rosenbaum; from 2002 featuring filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich; and from 2002 featuring film critic Roger EbertThe Complete “Citizen Kane,” (1991), a rarely seen feature-length BBC documentaryNew interviews with critic Farran Smith Nehme and film scholar Racquel J. GatesNew video essay by Orson Welles scholar Robert CarringerNew program on the film’s special effects by film scholars and effects experts Craig Barron and Ben BurttInterviews from 1990 with editor Robert Wise; actor Ruth Warrick; optical-effects designer Linwood Dunn; Bogdanovich; filmmakers Martin Scorsese, Henry Jaglom, Martin Ritt, and Frank Marshall; and cinematographers Allen Daviau, Gary Graver, and Vilmos ZsigmondNew documentary featuring archival interviews with WellesInterviews with actor Joseph Cotten from 1966 and 1975The Hearts of Age, a brief silent film made by Welles as a student in 1934Television programs from 1979 and 1988 featuring appearances by Welles and Mercury Theatre producer John HousemanProgram featuring a 1996 interview with actor William Alland on his collaborations with WellesSelection of The Mercury Theatre on the Air radio plays featuring many of the actors from Citizen KaneTrailerEnglish subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearingPLUS: Deluxe packaging, including a book with an essay by film critic Bilge Ebiri
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
And yet still we wait for the colourized version!
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
WHEN WILL TED TURNER'S DREAM BE REAL
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link
From beyond the grave: "What is it you WANT? In the depths of your ignorance?"
will we see a colorized version at last
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 August 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
I think the dream is now a 3D version.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link