quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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ex-gf who worked for AA would occasionally just hop on a flight to NY or wherever for a day. But her employee benefits were domestic only and getting first class required a lot of luck.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Rothstein had loved flying since his years at Brown University in Rhode Island, where he would buy a $99 weekend pass on Mohawk Air and fly to Buffalo, N.Y., just for a sandwich.

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I love sandwiches.

Jeff, Monday, 7 May 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

his carbon footprint is probably the same as puffy's

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I've heard of people w/ private planes hopping from rural airport to rural airport for the best burgers/etc.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

$99 in the 1970s, mind you

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:37 (five years ago) Permalink

There's something so awesome about unlimited first class flying that it is overwhelming my quid-dar right now. I don't know why that's the case when the same is not true for me of private planes. I guess I enjoy the "got over on the airlines" aspect of it.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:50 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah it's hard to sympathize with airlines

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Elvis was master of the preferred-food commute, iirc

mh, Monday, 7 May 2012 20:56 (five years ago) Permalink

As for the private plane thing, I'm kind of ambivalent -- if it's a corporate jet going into major airports, that sucks. If it's a private hobbyist plane and they're jumping from one podunk field to another for a burger, it's pretty much the same as most of their flights.

Hobbyist airplane ownership has definitely dropped, but it was more of a thing post-WW2.

mh, Monday, 7 May 2012 20:58 (five years ago) Permalink

come on, at least PRETEND to evaluate the arguments

that article is straight out of central casting

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:03 (five years ago) Permalink

The WSJ has a nice little nugget from the quiddities and agonies of yore.


Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:33 (five years ago) Permalink

if the Teabags weren't such a bunch of philistines who were proud of their militant & willful ignorance of all things non-American (b/c then they'd be "elitist liberals" see), they could add the agonies suffered by Edvard Munch and Ingmar Bergman at the hands of Scandinavian tax authorities to their list of "socialist sins."

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

fwiw I think "The Scream" is one of the shittiest famous paintings in art history.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:23 (five years ago) Permalink

It's probably pretty amazing if you haven't seen four million "The Scream" coffee cups

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:07 (five years ago) Permalink

On the airline thing, I know a woman whose husband is an airline mechanic and they get free passage pretty much anywhere. But they can't really afford to stay long in any of the places they travel to, so they do things like weekend jaunts to Paris or Buenos Aires.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:11 (five years ago) Permalink


As for Diageo, once you cut through the glam veneer of pseudo corporate responsibility this incident shows them to be a band of dishonest hammerheads and dumb ass corporate freaks. No soul and no morals, with the integrity of a rabid dog and the style of a wart hog.

Perhaps more tellingly it is an unwitting microcosm for just how the beer industry is changing and just how scared and jealous the gimp-like establishment are of the craft beer revolutionaries.

We would advise them to drink some craft beer. To taste the hops and live the dream. It is hard to be a judas goat when you are drinking a Punk IPA.

Walk tall, kick ass and learn to speak craft beer.

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

lol "craft beer revolutionaries" ... methinks someone has taken the Samuel Adams beer label a little TOO seriously.

also, i can't help but think of this when i read the brewdog's post:


Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink


sleepingbag, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

l-r Avril Incandenza, Hal Incandenza

raw feel vegan (silby), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:47 (five years ago) Permalink

lol kid is white because mom can see his bonar

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

wait wait wait

Jeanne Sager set up a separate computer login for her 6-year-old daughter, Jillian, to protect her from objectionable material after Jillian stumbled upon a graphic video while watching “My Little Pony” videos.

goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Skrillex strikes again

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:50 (five years ago) Permalink

who lets a 6yo on the internet? wtf

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

haha that skrillex thing made me laugh and then I realized I didn't get it

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

no, thank you

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:15 (five years ago) Permalink

"home and garden..... and kids and stuff"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink

a quick potted history of a given newspaper's "soft" section goes: society page >> women's page >> 'variety' page. in most papers the variety and arts coverage got mooshed together at some point, but, the nyt being about nyc, arts coverage was a bigger deal and always has been.

anyway this post started as "home and garden, lol woman stuff, amirite" and i kinda sidetracked myself

goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:49 (five years ago) Permalink


Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

oh, dammit! someone already posted it. anyway.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

he will never look at his mother's pearl necklace the same way again

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Then there are those requests that are legal but morally suspect, said Mario Buatta, who still feels guilty about designing a bedroom for the mistress of a man to match the bedroom he had already designed for the man and his wife.

“I didn’t realize he had a mistress,” Mr. Buatta said. “It wasn’t nice. I’m Italian! But I replicated the bedroom that was obviously done in a floral chintz. Curtains hanging from the ceiling. A trellis carpet. The husband felt comfortable in it, and I had that middle-class guilt. I could never face the wife. I felt very icky.”

inside Mario Buatta's apartment, where maybe the guilt isn't so middle-class:

I DIED, Monday, 14 May 2012 05:46 (five years ago) Permalink


Ms. Lewis was surprised when she was told that many Nepalese pedicurists were initially hesitant to touch strangers’ feet. She gestured to the woman ministering to her toes, which were separated by cotton balls, and said, “You would think she was born to do this.

Moodles, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink


this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:50 (five years ago) Permalink

"I mean _I_ would at least"

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't even believe that thing is real, it keeps taking a knowing tone for like two sentences and then...?!??

At least there we weren’t surrounded by drunken, half-naked college students racing Segways along Ocean Drive. “I know I sound like I’m 90,” Emma whispered, “but I just want them to put some clothes on and go to vocational school.”

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:44 (five years ago) Permalink

ALESSANDRA STANLEY is the chief television critic for The New York Times.

dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Ta-Nehisi Coates defended the writing in that Stanley essay.

Meanwhile it's been raked through the coals here: http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/05/new_york_times_writer_discover.php

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I was trying to figure out what college her daughter goes to - my guess is oberlin

dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I want to know what her kid was up to during the trip!

Also, she really missed out at this point:
I considered driving our golf cart off the villa grounds to the Golf Grill, overlooking the nine-hole course, but that, Emma said primly, would set a bad example of maternal drinking and driving.
..then she later talked about how the kid loved to drive the golf cart around. Uh, you have a built-in chauffeur, lady!

mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:17 (five years ago) Permalink

She also doesn't want her daughter to see her drink, I think you're forgetting.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:17 (five years ago) Permalink

I want to know what her kid was up to during the trip!

being a spoiled, sulky brat - ie. a teenager?

johnny crunch, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, I have a deep suspicion about this:
La Trattoria, a pizza and pasta place near the golf course that looked as though it belonged in a Scottsdale, Ariz., mall.

I would guess all rich white people leisure/retirement enclaves look pretty much the same, with the exception of the surrounding landscape, no matter where you go. tbf, there are parts of suburbs in most areas of the country that try to approximate this aesthetic.

Laurel, I mean her daughter could drop her off! She could feign sleepiness or something when the kid picks her up later, I don't fucking know. And exactly how "irresponsible" is letting your college student kid see you drink like an old woman? It's not binge drinking, so it's a relatively great role model experience

mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Daughter sounded pretty cool until the vocational school crack.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:28 (five years ago) Permalink

it's kind of thoughtful, college debt is a big deal these days

mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

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