eli manning

You know in a few years when Peyton and Eli are done playing football, there are going to be a lot of people that look back at these two brothers that played football with some wistful eyes.

Two brothers, both engaging (yet different) personalities and yet so damn successful in anything, let alone sports.

It just doesn't happen and I think it is going to take awhile for people to really register how unique a thing it really was.

Enjoy it now. In a weird way, I kind of had a similar feel towards the last Bulls run with Jordan and I remember it kind of well against the Jazz in that last series. He retired again and came back, but I kind of remember from that last series, you know, this is really great but it's almost done. The Manning brothers might go on for a few more years, but I don't think it is quite acknowledged how unique it really is, even though they are such big popular and really great athletes.

one definite HOFer, + one who is increasingly perhaps likely?

peyton just needs to pad those stats a little more

I could see Peyton wanting to hang around for a bit to try and win a second title and then maybe get the alltime Yards or TD record. He'd probably have to play, be good and stay healthy 4 or 5 years to do that though, since Favre played into his 40s.

Even if Peyton doesnt get either of those records, and doesnt win another SB, he will still be more highly regarded historically than Favre.

Why do you say that?

In my opinion he is just a better quarterback than Favre. Same amount of SB's, but i just think he's better, and i think that would probably be the general consensus among cognoscenti going forward. Pretty sure I'm not going out on a limb here. I'd much rather have Manning in his prime than Favre

yeah, i dunno about that; let's say peytey does one season with the broncos, fucks his neck up and retires. You still think he'll be considered a better qb than farvrevrere?

by most people, yes

prime peyton vs prime favre is no conterst forks

yeah, i dunno about that; let's say peytey does one season with the broncos, fucks his neck up and retires. You still think he'll be considered a better qb than farvrevrere?

― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:11 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

ok. i'm not arguing personally but it seems like sports culture starting with THE WORLDWIDE LEADER hold brett up as exemplar for the ages; would be kinda surprised to see that worm turn.

i think brett favre is about as disliked as roger clemens these days, both w/attendant comedic blundering re: extramarital misadventures, though at least brett seems to have kept it 100% age of consent.

manning bros are genuinely beloved imo, favre is "a legend" whom no one actually likes anymore, not even GB pack fans it seems.

i'd say peyton is/was a better quarterback, had a longer 'prime' than favre and was definitely smarter/made better decisions

otoh there was a window there in the mid-90s when favre was making throws i don't think i've ever seen anyone make (maybe because they were too smart to try). and, probably unfairly, i think favre's half-assed exit has diminished his, uh, legacy

Favre really screwed up his legacy by hanging on going to other clubs. He played Ok, but he killed his ties to the home club Packers going to the Vikings then being such a whiny chump on the will he retire or won't he and getting busted flashing his junk on a cell phone. I think it paid off in the short run, sure...but I think Packer fans and cost him ALOT of unconditional appreciation from the fans that really backed him.

That said, really when Favre was cool was around the couple of years before the Pack won it all when he was tossing underhanded 20 yard passes for TDs and head butting people. Favre was so bad in the playoffs in those dome games, especially how many games they won in the regular season, it took like 5 or 6 failures and the Giants game the last time for the talking heads to shut up and finally realize their messiah kind of was sucking in the playoffs big time and playing like a gd idiot at points.

But in a way that kind of goes to show how deep those early years in Green Bay really were...especially considering how bad the Pack had been for more than a couple decades (and yet still kind of loved by the NFL fans overall). He did put that club, which is really unique back on the map and did so with flair.

Peyton is similar to Favre that he brought an old storied club the Colts who had been a laughing stock and moved back to being respectable. In game play, the dude is the complete opposite and his general on the field game play is kind of unique. Manning is the best general on the field probably ever in the history of the game. Marino had a better arm. Montana was just cool and played on a killer all around club.

Good post, i agree. Also take my opinion with a grain of salt, I'm a Bears fan, so I'm supposed to hate Favre.

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obama's gonna need to bulk up. he makes Eli look huge

semi-serious question: eli manning = HOFer?

1) does he deserve enshrinement
2) will he be enshrined

no, no

probably not but probably will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVpHqfjh9Ic

hear that every time I see his face

it would purely be for the 2 super bowl wins, he really has nothing else on his resume and if pass stats continue to trend upwards that's be even more the case by the time his eligibility rolls around. phil simms prob has a more reasonable claim to the HOF and he probably isn't getting in either.

he could always win a 3rd champ of course. with how good the patriots look this year it would be a good season for the giants to win again.

he's going in, no question. there's a reason a guy like joe namath, more or less the eli of his day, is in but guys like, idk, mcnabb or boomer esiason will never have a chance. dude's got two super bowls and will probably end up between 6th-8th in all-time passing TDs by the time he's done. probably won't deserve it though, unless he has an unexpected final act

it's funny looking at old football stats, such a different game. like namath threw 173 TDs and turned the ball over 243 times in his career and he's a legend

he'll get in due to manning halo effect and the super bowls, everyone will forget he was never a top 5 quarterback in any season of his career.

I love Eli because he helps illustrate that the modern version of this game is total bullshit

And yes 100% HOF first ballot duh

lol

TRENDING

Peyton Manning: Documentary Clip Shows Quarterback Chiding Brother Eli for Eating Chips Loudly

nice

:D

And yes 100% HOF first ballot duh
― El Tomboto, Monday, November 2, 2015 11:28 PM (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post

whoa whoa whoa

two rings as a QB def gets you there, but I'd like to see him sweat it for a year or two

i would guess eli is the worst qb to have 2 rings? he'll certainly be a test case whether or not that is automatic entry. barnwell gave him 40% chance to get in in a recent article.

either him or roethlisberger

Eli has had a better career than Plunkett, who also won two Superbowls.

eli's last couple seasons have been good, and the two seasons before his hilarious 2013 were almost as good. i think his cameron frye persona masks some of his skills and intangibles tbh.

Eli is in the Hall of Fame. The dude is Payton Manning's brother, won 2 Superbowls in New York and beat the Patriots in a couple of the most ridiculous ways possible.

NFL Hall is way more about the Fame than greatness, that's why they put in like a QB and WR and maybe put in a whole O-line every 20 years.

I've said it before, greatness in the NFL is a whole lot of luck. Tom Brady gets drafted by the Chiefs, he might have been great, but he wouldn't be Tom Brady you know now.

...that's why they put in a QB and WR nearly every year....