GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

lol what is that

jeez it took her a year to find a decent job and an apartment she could afford. i was nervous there for a minute. glad her harrowing experience ended well.

you can really rent an apartment in greenwich village for a thousand bucks a month? i want one.

still don't understand why more people don't just sell pot to supplement their incomes. it ain't rocket science.

Or rob banks! It's where the money is!

haha, she had a plan for her life after college and it didn't pan out, and she was sad about it. WHAT A LOSER.

my sympathy for people who repeatedly reference their "$200,000 education" is approximately nil

your hardman stance is a mighty steed and it will take you far in life.

Everyone has something to say about Girls -- I've even had several male friends chime in on how impossible it is for them to relate on any level.

this was my favorite part:

HBO's new series, Girls, has caught a lot of backlash for depicting 20-somethings who live off their parents after college and struggle to find work in New York City.

very controversial premise.

"haha, she had a plan for her life after college and it didn't pan out, and she was sad about it. WHAT A LOSER."

but it did pan out! pretty quickly! well, she has to live in brooklyn, so, i guess that's kinda sad :(

i had a plan for my life after college that involved getting paid millions of dollars to dispense advice to world leaders and attend chichi parties. i too am sad this hasn't panned out and i hope u all feel sympathy for me.

my sympathy for people who repeatedly reference their "$200,000 education" is approximately nil

Well, I suppose we're often talking about loans here, which is basically like investing in yourself, so I reserve the right to feel bad for folks left paying that off with no good job prospects. Or, hell, I know people who work hard and still have tons of student loans to pay off. No different than house payments, car, etc.

Unless someone paid her tuition, in which case, yeah, who the fuck cares about your lame problems.

watched the first few episodes last night with my gf. fucking great! by far the funniest sitcom i've seen since arrested development & curb your enthusiasm. don't know who lena dunham is outside the show, but it's impressive that she's got creator, writer, director and star credits on this thing. helps explain why it feels so specific, personal and honest.

it's sort of horrible watching these smart and basically decent women make incredibly horrible life decisions, but that's also where most of the comedy comes from. holy shit @ hannah's rapey pederast "boyfriend" and that douchebag marnie was chasing after in the art gallery. "give less of a shit", bleah.

the other two girls are kind of irritating (note pavlovian avoidance of "annoying"), but enjoyably so. can't help be reminded of sex and the city, of course, and also of tina fey's general comic sensibility. lena = new tv hero.

i don't particularly care how "entitled" they seem (they do), or much they were or weren't fictionally given by their fictional parents. my interest in the show and my ability to sympathize with its characters isn't a product of fictional economic circumstances.

this show's sensibility is like the anti-tina fey imo

If this show were about entitled male 20 something slackers, you'd be saying it sucks. You're all reverse sexists!

this show's sensibility is like the anti-tina fey imo

weird, cuz i see a lot of similarity (with liz lemon, especially). self-doubt, self-mockery, irony & and stark, sarcastic meta-commentary on life as it goes by, proudly warts-and-all nerdiness & imperfection, bad boyfriends, urban life, reduced expectations, feminism that doesn't want to read as "feminist", etc.

stark = snark

unrelated, but man, hannah got burned so hard by her ex in that last episode. hurt just watching it.

If this show were about entitled male 20 something slackers, you'd be saying it sucks. You're all reverse sexists!
--Josh in Chicago

I love Workaholics!

Curious how many people on this thread hated Girls and loved that show actually.

I've literally never heard of that show, tbh.

workaholics is so funny. funnier than girls. but its more unreal and madcap.

I like Girls and only made it ten minutes into one episode of Workaholics.

The League, OTOH, is brilliant

i still like girls though.

Right the style of humor is much different obv. But I can't imagine people polluting the Workaholics thread with complaints about how they can't get into the show cuz they can't empathize with the privileged backgrounds of the characters or whatever.

i'd say i like workaholics and girls about equally at the moment

also, is there a workaholics thread?

Not sure that the Workaholics thread is better or worse for that actually.

workaholics gets crazier as it goes along.

girls is no louis either. i know lena is a louis fanatic. louis is next level stuff. and kinda genius. but again i still like girls...

(its no 30 rock or parks & rec either as far as half hour shows go...)

The League, OTOH, is brilliant

You mean the fantasy football show? I thought it was hilarious. Went through all the eps in, like, two days, it was so funny.

league's great

workaholics is great

I hate women

I actually thought The League was pretty egalitarian. That is, the dudes act like asses (mostly toward one another), and the women - who are all smart, pretty much - inevitably swoop in and show them up at their own game. When they do get crass and sexist-ish, they're usually the butt of their own schemes and jokes.

But I can't imagine people polluting the Workaholics thread with complaints about how they can't get into the show cuz they can't empathize with the privileged backgrounds of the characters or whatever.

in general, i wouldn't think that i would have much time for anyone who might even tangentially be connected to something called "mumblecore", so, i was happy that girls is actually pretty good. its just funny/entertaining. and i'm always on the lookout for new funny.

i kinda hate the league

the thing with girls is you have the tried and true bildungsroman thing of someone learning how to make their way in the world but then you have the post-curb/seinfeld attitude of no lessons/etc/etc and that's probably off-putting to some people. people want people to learn lessons and suffer and the characters in girls do learn things but they are also pretty modern/blase. you know, like clueless.

like clueless the movie. and okay a little clueless as people.

not familiar with the league, but workaholics bugs me. dislike the characters and sensibility. girls is much funnier, imo.

Girls set itself up for that by staking some claim to verisimilitude (no one's complaint about Entourage was that they couldn't identify with Hollywood millionaires - you weren't supposed to), and with the first ep. Without the pilot, I don't think there would be half as many complaints about privilege.
--Kiarostami bag (milo z)

I doubt that somehow and I don't really see the difference.

i like workaholics more than peep show too. my problem with peep show is my antipathy for the characters/actors.

peep show's great

netflix is great

it sux for everything but these shows tho, for the most part I think

i really tried to love peep show. watched it stoned, everything, just don't love it. i guess i am kinda parochial when it comes to naughty lad humour. i pretty much like everything that workaholics is based on. office space/kids in the hall/mr. show/wet hot american harold and kumar super troopers. all that crap.

Netflix is great for everything except big studio films.

Inspired by my love of Girls watched Tiny Furniture this evening and was suddenly struck by the AbFab influence on the Denham/Kirke 'ship. Kirke is so obviously Patsy age 22 or so.