'In My Car' is great
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
Wow that Flash animation music video is just, almost shockingly banal. And it really doesn't help that the music sounds like I pressed "Doo Wop" on my Casio CTK-100.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
this sounds like cdbaby music
― crüt, Saturday, 5 May 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
Said it was a "lyric video." Maybe there will be another video.
― timellison, Saturday, 5 May 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
The same video without the lyrics, I'd imagine.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 5 May 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
z_s otm, this song is atrocious.
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 5 May 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
Good music is timeless. Good genres are timeless. What was great in the 60s is still great today.
Hm, I'm not sure I agree with the notion of "timelessness" actually. I think that certain idioms, in any art form, eventually become archaic and stale and cease to be meaningful conduits of artistic expression. Or at least, they become different types of conduits. While I love the paintings of Monet, for instance, I wouldn't be as impressed with someone making equally proficient impressionistic landscapes today. To do that, in 2012, means something different than it did in the 1870s. At worst, it would code as reactionary rather than progressive. I tend to think that their is no such thing as the pure experience of an artwork; cultural baggage inevitably comes to bear on how we view things, even if we try to avoid it. Everything has a context. This is a postmodern cliche, I admit, but I think it's true. Anyway Geir, thanks for responding.
Also, I like the idea many posters have put forward of seeing a radical break between the Beach Boys' early material and their later stuff. I think that makes sense. Something like "Somewhere Near Japan" doesn't have much in common with "God Only Knows."
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
FWIW, Pat, you will find a lot of love on ILM for Beach Boys from almost any era. If I remember right, the big Beach Boys poll that happened here a while ago ended up rating a TON of stuff from the 70s that I had honestly never even heard before.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
Huh, that's really interesting. I'll try to find that poll and explore some of that material. I love the obvious, canonical Beach Boys stuff but my knowledge of their work terminates around Surf's Up. Thanks.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
Aside from the odd track and the entirety of the wretched 15 Big Ones, the stuff on the fourth disc of the Good Vibrations is really good. Some of it is among my favorite stuff by them. I'd seek it out if you're curious.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
cool. that shouldn't be too hard to track down. thanks.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
I played 15BO for the first time in a while the other day and was surprised how much I enjoyed listening to it. But then again, got the same thing from MIU immediately afterwards.
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
I'm really, really fond of the cover of "Just Once In My Life" that's on 15 Big Ones.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
this is shit.
― Grimy Little Pimp (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 6 May 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
in response to tim's enthusiasm, i listened to it a couple more times. while they aren't great, it's not the lyrics that are tripping me up. in fact i appreciate the creepy, angel-zombie earnestness. the harmonies are sweet and the basic melody serviceable, but the whole thing sounds lifeless to me. that's the problem. it's nostalgic, but in this freeze-dried, joyless sort of way that makes me think of an online funeral parlor more than anything else.
i did realize that if this were a beach boys pastiche by someone i'm more in the habit of forgiving (jeff lynne, say), i'd probably have at least a few nice things to say about it. wouldn't make me like the song though.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 6 May 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
aw this is totally not even that bad
― flopson, Sunday, 6 May 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
It's About Time: Beach Boys Poll Results
^^^ results here. somewhere there should be a link to the Spotify playlist, too!
BTW, unless I'm wrong, I don't think I've seen you around here much before, Pat Finn. Welcome aboard!
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 6 May 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
"that makes me think of an online funeral parlor" is the new "this sounds like a museum," that is amazing
i actually found myself defending the beach boys to maria last night. oof, i totally sounded like one of those people. it wasn't pretty.
― scott seward, Saturday, May 5, 2012 12:06 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
don't resist it! you are one of those people!
― flopson, Sunday, 6 May 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
thanks doctor casino. i started posting yesterday but i have lurked for a while. the beach boys poll looks awesome and its seems like there are a lot of convenient youtube embeds. i remember reading through the jazz poll last summer and feeling thrilled with how many great albums i discovered there. it was like taking a masters course in the history of jazz. really great.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
xpost They should have gotten Jeff Lynne to produce this. That would have been a good start.
Honestly, the Beach Boys are one of the few acts I wish would work with someone as theoretically radical yet oddly sympathetic as Brian Eno. It would never happen, of course, but it has more potential than, say, Paul Simon.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
Like, think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5RYptkzbjY
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
Honestly, I'm surprised they've never done a late-career "unplugged" type thing, with "you're there in the room!" production. Something in the Nigel Godrich vein (a la Chaos and Creation, not so much, y'know, Radiohead or Sea Change).
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 6 May 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I could get with a Beach Boys Party...Again!.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 6 May 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
Still Partyian'
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 May 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
Honestly, I'm surprised they've never done a late-career "unplugged" type thing, with "you're there in the room!" production. Something in the Nigel Godrich vein (a la /Chaos and Creation/, not so much, y'know, Radiohead or /Sea Change/).
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 6 May 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
Just saw the set list from the first show on their tour - forty-two songs.
― timellison, Sunday, 6 May 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
Out of their mid 60s uptempo stuff, I'd rather rep for "California Girls", "Would't It Be Nice" or "Here Today" than "Help Me Rhonda".
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 6 May 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago) link
Just saw the set list from the first show on their tour - forty-two songs
Two and a half hours, 42 songs - they're like the Ramones. Of course, the caveat, per the Rolling Stone review:
many of them medley-style
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 May 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
Onstage, Mike Love was a low-key kind of showboat, stepping back and forth with the beat, miming the revving of a motorcycle engine on "Little Honda" and hugging his elbows when he sang "and the northern girls with the way they kiss, they keep their boyfriends warm at night" on "California Girls." Brian seemed placid and stone-faced, sitting at the bench of a large white grand piano. "Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Wilson," Al Jardine said after "This Whole World," at which point the crowd rose to their feet in reverence as he sat, blinking.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 May 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_581oQjCwnE&feature=channel&list=UL
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
/This feels like a Brian solo record arranged by Bruce Johnston./This. A very "Disney Girls" retro nostalgia thing going on.
This. A very "Disney Girls" retro nostalgia thing going on.
Even if it falls short of those lofty standards, what with the lyrics and Brian's latter day Ozzie Osbourne tenor, for a group that for all intents and purposes has nothing left to offer, it could be a lot worse. In particular, the chorus has been lodged in cerebral cortex for the last day or so.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 6 May 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
I agree, that initial track sounds surprisingly good...
― skip, Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
Single is more Beach Boys 85 than 'Goin' On' level of quality (high)
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 6 May 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
I'd completely overlooked this song until last year, never mind though:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obzB_8P1fcs
I'd completely overlooked this song until last year, never mind though:
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yoikes
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
Plenty of sweet harmonies and Brian Wilson's patented unexpected chord changes; too bad about the banal lyrics and generic production which sounds like something that could be cobbled together with GarageBand given an hour or so. At least they splurged on the video production!
Well at least this is a better way to go out than Summer in Paradise or Stars and Stripes or whatever their last album was
― Lee593 (Lee626), Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
xxxp wow goin' on is great ... now i'll have to finally check out keeping the summer alive.
― fit and working again, Sunday, 6 May 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of Summer In Paradise, never knew this before: The quasi-rap number "Summer of Love" was originally intended to be a duet, albeit one with Bart Simpson.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 6 May 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
Jeeeeeeeeesus fuck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0
oh my god, wow, i had never seen that! Frightening on a lot of levels. Everything I've ever sort of disliked about Mike Love kind of crystallized right there.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
Hah. Mike Love is the mack daddy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
You got the "daddy" part right, at least. He's like your friend's dad who, like, wore jokey mesh caps and stuff but never made any attempt to be at all friendly when you were at his house.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
this is kind of a charming interview on fallon http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/beach-boys-took-over-fallon-last-night.html
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
i don't watch or listen to modern day beach boys unless uncle jesse and the rest of the full house cast is involved
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
the harmonies and melody lines in the chorus are really beautiful
but yeah sounds cheaply recorded and the lyrics are terrible
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
the bridge is horrible
Kinda cool album cover.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61K4lQ1qzqL._SL500_AA300_.jpghaha yeah, not the direction i would've expected, but cool!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link