Britpop era follow up to successful albums poll

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I kind of admire the Manics for managing to cash in on the era without, in retrospect, having to bend much to it in sound, theme or image. They were always trying to introduce stuff that never caught on at all, like political history, ice hockey, or the pseudo yacht rock on this album

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 10:05 (eleven years ago) link

Are The View the 'same jeans' lot? I heard a busker doing that this week, and not so long ago saw a bride & groom taking the floor to it at their wedding (not as first dance thankfully). Both times I felt soiled just knowing what it was.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

Kafuckingsafuckingbifuckingan

I feel rather proud I have no idea who this is referring to.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 5 May 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

Kasabian.

I don't think that I've met anyone that has still expressed a liking for The View in years now, though yes, plenty of people who rep for Kasabian and Kings of Leon.

if, Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

Looool, I'd forgotten about most of this stuff. Think I'll have to jump on the This Is Hardcore bandwagon.

Mr Andy M, Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

i keep thinking i've never heard the view but i probably have and just dont realise it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think i've ever heard the view. the one thing that redeems that list of albums up there is the thought of what a landfill era equivalent would look like.

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

Man this was sort of my era but I guess I'd decided most of these bands sucked after all by then and didn't much care for the ones I bothered to hear. Supergrass, Boo Radleys = OK. The Pulp I've never heard, even though I like(d) Pulp and everyone says it's good, because I didn't like the singles.

Things I might have voted for had they been on the list: Radiator (but I still prefer Fuzzy Logic), Six (but I haven't listened to it in a decade). I guess nothing by Gorky's counts as a "successful album" enough for me to vote for the follow-up...

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 5 May 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

You know what follow-up to a very minor Britpop "success" I did hear is the second Silver Sun album which I got for a quid in a bargain bin and is really fucking terrible, and I say that as someone who actually still nurses some vaguely fond memories of the singles from the first album, which I figure are probably beyond the pale for the rest of ILX

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 5 May 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

a couple of irl ppl I know rep for Silver Sun on the basis of them being "classic powerpop" or something like that

not sure I'm behind that drive

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Were Catherine Wheel and Swervedriver not included because they're not considered Britpop, or weren't popular? When I visited in Fall '97, "Bittersweet Symphony" was playing everywhere. EVERYWHERE!

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Pulp will take and it gets my vote despite the album being too goddamn long. But The Menace is not bad at all and shorter than its competition.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

It says a lot that length is a factor in this poll

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

In It For The Money was the last Supergrass album I was really excited about. After that, the drummer's Moon-isms vanished,

I don't pay attention to Britpop drummers. Period.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

I always thought Goffey was great, but drum geeks seem to think he was all-over-the-place.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

I still think Supergrass when better for each time until the fourth album. Then they started moving the wrong way again, but the debut remains their weakest to me, not really getting good until the tempo is being slowed down towards the end.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Silver Sun

first album is great, and the best nigel godrich production imo

second is dire, it was clear that dude had completely shot his songwriting wad by this point

the aower of aussy (electricsound), Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

pulp slightly over supergrass

nakamura, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

Blur or Supergrass. Leaning toward Supergrass.

― EZ Snappin, Friday, May 4, 2012 9:10 AM (2 days ago)

I listened to both and went with Blur.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

The first Silver Sun album is genuinely great powerpop throughout, plus their 2000s albums are much, much better than 'Neo Wave'.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

man what a huge load of shit

goole, Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

went for C'mon Kids... In my head I've written one of those 33 1/3 books about that album focussing on its classic status as follow up album to successful britpop release.

essentially, this thread in small book form.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

even geir's posts?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 7 May 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

i expect a lot of albums to get no votes here

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I voted "menace"

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

i dont think i ever heard it tbh. probably haven't heard most of these albums mind you. For everyone saying its a depressing list and its proof the 90s were bad.. just remember most of these sold sod all.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link

C'mon Kids is the one of these I've listened to recently and thought it still sounded fresh and good.

( and if This Is Hardcore is on here, why not OK Computer? )

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

(because that one was reasonably successful compared to the previous album)

(OK, TIHArdcore got to number one, etc)

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

the ads say drink bottled water
but we know that it tastes of pee
should be getting our tampons free
d.i.y. gynecology

thomp, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

impossible not to vote for pulp here...though i had no idea kula shaker had a second album, maybe i should listen to that before i cast my vote SIKE

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

i never heard that suede album either but i didn't even really care for coming up/post bernard butler suede.

i remember enjoying the great escape at the time but most of blur's stuff has not held up for me and i find myself just cringing at everything damon albarn does.

bene_gesserit, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

love 1st 3 Suede but man those 2 horrible horrible albums make me want to punch brett.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Trash is my favourite Suede song. Is that on it?

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Trash is on Coming Up. Head Music had.. umm.. 'give me head, give me head, give me head muuuusic insteaaad' *looks up tracklisting* Electricity, She's in Fashion, Can't Get Enough.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

no those sound shit.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

they are

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

i want to start a thread for horrible album cover art from 1998-2002 era that looks like it was knocked up in photoshop in about 10 seconds and now plagues the shelves in Poundland up and down the country.

Prime examples:

http://www.140db.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/danton-supple-albums/suede-head-music.jpg

http://img.noiset.com/images/album/manic-street-preachers-lifeblood-cd-album-art-2051.jpeg

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

The London Suede?

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

This is even worse:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/A_new_morning.jpg

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

We had to call them the London Suede in North America because there was some country(?) act named Suede already. Ditto Bush "X"

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

charlatans uk?

i dont remember Nirvana US for some reason

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

feel schitzo everso psycho
Kicking at an old tin can
I feel real like a man like a woman,
Like a woman, like a man
I make deadspace feel like a head case
Take it like a teenage tough
I feel real now watching those wheels
And shaking that stuff,
Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Read more at http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/16617/#SSR7HiYP8lY8ow9U.99!

thomp, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

i dont remember Nirvana US for some reason

Nirvana paid Nirvana off

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Nirvana (US) agreed not to pass themselves off as a psychedelic band ever.

At which point, post agreement, Nirvana (UK) released a cover version of "Lithium".

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

The only thing worse that Brett on smack'n'crack was Brett cleaning up. 'Head Music' ("great big crack" indeed) is bad in places but 'A New Morning' is terrible.

― 'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Friday, May 4, 2012 8:50 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If those were the ONLY TWO Suede albums that existed, and I were forced by gunpoint to listen to one of them, I'd choose A New Morning without any hesitation or doubt. I don't think either are very good, but A New Morning would win out just because it's got 'Obsessions' on it. I love those first three Suede albums, though, and the 'Sci-Fi Lullabies' B-side compilation (ESPECIALLY THE FIRST DISC) is essential, IMO.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

feel schitzo everso psycho
Kicking at an old tin can
I feel real like a man like a woman,
Like a woman, like a man
I make deadspace feel like a head case
Take it like a teenage tough
I feel real now watching those wheels
And shaking that stuff,
Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Read more at http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/16617/#SSR7HiYP8lY8ow9U.99!

― thomp, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

She live in a house, she stupid as a mouse
And she going where the lights are on
She's shaking obscene like a fucking machine and she's gone, gone, gone...
She's cooking crack giving us heart attack

etc. etc.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

still love that manics album.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

She live in a house, she stupid as a mouse

See, I like that song

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

To be fair, he was on crack

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

my mate saw suede on the head music tour and said it was great and that the songs were really good live and that it was the production on the album that was really bad (despite the melody maker review praising it). The album after was just pure shite though.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link


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