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a sympathetic hellstrom could be one of the great sci-fi film not-villians of all time

speaking of Lewis Shiner, I thought "Jeff Beck" should def be in a rock x sf anthology--maybe it is? Must be at least one such collection. It's in Shiner's own collection, which I haven't read, also posted xpost and sev other places.
http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1235134277l/257355.jpg

Ok afaik I've only read one Lewis Shiner story, 'Sticks', about a session drummer who falls for some young hip new rock chick. Had passages like

Stan himself liked to keep it simple. He was wearing a new pair of Lee Riders and a long-sleeved white shirt. The shirt set off the dark skin and straight black hair he'd inherited from his half-breed Comanche father. He had two new pairs of Regal Tip 5Bs in his back pocket and Converse All-Stars on his feet, the better to grip the pedals.

and although it was in an SF collection there was absolutely zero SF about it. So, meh.

stan sounds hawt

amazon is trying to sell me something called 'the mongoliad'

"the genesis of the project was in Stephenson's dissatisfaction with the authenticity of the medieval sword fighting scenes he had written into his Baroque cycle of novels"

what i really want is authenticity in my sword fighting scenes

"Jeff Beck" was be-careful-what-you-wish-for, no "You're a malted," but still pretty good of its kind.
what the hell, turn it up yall
credit: Perihelio
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amazon is trying to sell me something called 'the mongoliad'

haha me too. i was nonplussed

BTW, this is a decent interview/reading podcast that's featured several of the names mentioned in the thread: http://trashotron.com/agony/index.html

Thanks Elvis. Yeah, so far, seems like a good place to start might be here, leading to readings/interviews of Rucker, K.W. Jeter, Jay Lake--haven't checked Lake yet, but Jeter's version of The Red Shoes is true steampunk. Mind the blood on the gears, Guv'nor
http://trashotron.com/agony/news/2012/03-19-12-podcast.htm#podcast032112

The Rucker reading (from his autobio) and interview are pleasant, but don't get me tripping like his fiction or that Forced Exposure interview. Several interviews are linked from Rucker's site, don't think that's one of 'em (hopefully available somewhere short of eBay, or maybe at your local thrift store).

Heading out, no time to read this Robert Guffney story now with excellent illustrations by Rucker--mostly photos, but also this painting
c 2010 by Rudy Rucker
http://www.flurb.net/9/57_theabduction.jpg

oops here's the link for the text x pix
http://www.flurb.net/9/9guffey.htm

Oh oh, still haven't read the Guffey yarn, partly cos been away from Computerland (yes, this can still happen, depending on the mission), but also I have to make myself post about (brace yourself for this title) Down These Strange Streets All-New Stories of Urban Fantasy edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois.
Yeah noir meets vampires and friends, with familiar elements, incl many relatvely happy endings, but the authors and characters mostly earn 'em, after much trouble 'n' strife. A number of page-long resumes, most of these ghost-toasy overacheivers are still capable of fresh touches. Charlaine Harris is a notable exception, and considering this coarefully perused blah turn and some other which haven't rewarded lazy skims, seems like True Blood's worthy if strenuous Seasons 1 & 2 (need a nap before checking 3) are the result of rocket fuel transfusions via Alan Ball's team (you think?)
My faves are the few that screw with the tendency of genre fiction to explain every damn thing, no matter how ingeniously and overall impressively. These would be the well-named "The Difference Between a Puzzle and a Mystery," by the relatively new and less pattern-bound M.L.N. Hanover, and, to an extent--making me fugure out some stuff--"The Curious Affair of the Deodand," by Lisa Tuttle, Martin's collaborator on Windhaven, which should be worth checking (wish he'd enlist her for some Game Of Thrones screenplays). She's done a lot of other stuff too. Diana Gabaldon's "Lord John and the Plague of Zombies" may turn me into a series junkie yet--lives up to its title and then some, yet w balance of realness--mental/emotional realness of its characters, enough to care about 'em. A common denominator in this collection.
Big but not over-extended finale" "The Avakian Eagle," co-starring 50-year-old Corporal Dashiell Hammett, tubercular, chainsmoking editor of base paper in the Aleutians, ca. WWII. Speaking of overachievers, he's just a bit of a deus ex machina,but by dam. Once again, earners keepers. By Bradley Denton, author of Buddy Holly Is Alive and Well on Ganymede, think that's the title. Around this pile or the other, I better read it too.

Hammett was indeed a 50 year-old etc

"The Adakian Eagle," sorry.

started reading Psycho Shop an unfinished Alfred Bester novel that Roger Zelazny finished after Bester's death. couldn't do it. too silly or something. the zazzy hepcat talk was bugging me.

so, went for *Destiny Doll* by Simak. reading now. so far so weird. i dig it.

You might like Simak's City too. I've also got his Way Station, haven't read it yet. I'm strung out on short stories, one a day. Haven't found a Simak collection yet--anybody?

Finally went back to and finished Damon Knight's Rule Golden and Other Stories. As prev mentioned, the title story comes first: boondocks newspaper editor, too smart for his own good, finds himself drafted to study an alien captive, his job during what may be his own prison term. The alien manipulates him into faciltating their escape, and during their time on the run across the world--could be a pre-Le Carre thriller, mainly about the stress of adaptation and paradigm shift.For the alien also:he's here to keep Earthlings to venture into Galaxy w freakishly violent drives intact--but such a rare dilemma and new solution, who knows what results will accrue. Easy enough to pick up on this, despite the genre patterns. Also in "Double Meaning," which moves a bit beyond didactic demonstration of didactism's tight-assed limations. The uptight protagonist, threatened by having to consult with an uncouth postcolonial, as they search for an alien impersonating a subject of Earth's Galactic Empire, is also plotting his own rise from the lower classes by manipulating a neurotic aristocrat into marrying him. He (hope he's)wearing down her resistence in various, plausibly projected ways (this was 50s pulp for middle school geeks??) Again, easily picked up implications (he can't go into Les Liasons D-etail), and invivations to speculate, like about what happens after the genre-typical happy-ish ending. "The Earth Quarter" is post-Imperial, postcolonial, except now the freakishly violent-tending Earthlings are in galactic ghettos, still somehow dependent on exports from supposedly ruined Earth, and trying to cope with mental and physical exile. "The Dying Man" is not dystopian, but again, slowly grokking the still-human nature of Earthopian life. I better end this, but the collection, the de facto series, gets better as it goes along, too.

"from venturing into galaxy w freakishly violent drives intact," that is. "Could be a pre-Le Carre thriller, mainly (kinda something else)" not meant to imply Knight doesn't have his own knack for moving sometimes bloody-minded tacticians around the 4-D chessboard.

anybody read Tatyana Tolstaya's "The Slynx"?

i have and it was good

today at the thrift store i bought: the best of c.m. kornbluth paperback and a hardcover of greg bear's slant.

thinking of this thread i went to the used store around the corner and bought:

kim stanley robinson: antarctica (hardcover), green mars, blue mars, icehenge

rudy rucker: the hacker and the ants, freeware

(and a frederik pohl twofer paperback with drunkard's walk and the age of the pussyfoot)

i have read those pohls. they are both pretty okay. i remember almost nothing about the first one, except learning what a drunkard's walk was.

speaking of Kornbluth & Pohl (their Merchants would prob approve Amis's inflated blurb)
http://www.sffaudio.com/images11/SFMASTERWORKSTheSpaceMerchants565.jpg

wtf @ blade runner rip-off cover

Hey. let free enterprise ring! Here's the one I used to have
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Suitable art fo Mad Men

Michael Dirda is on the case: http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/robert-sheckleys-store-of-the-worlds-reviewed-by-michael-dirda/2012/05/16/gIQAVzmpUU_story.html

Let’s say you are a devoted fan of Kurt Vonnegut’s books ... Where else can you find similar instances of sly, macabre wit, of such black-humored, gin-and-tonic fizziness in storytelling?

The answer may be unexpected: among the many masters of satirical science fiction and fantasy.

yeah, real unexpected there

seems like a weird thing for nyrb to bring out, is it another lethem baby

WP book critic writing for general audience and not readers of this thread shocka. And in fact how well is Sheckley known these days in sf circles, outside of The Sluglords? Or Sladek?

Yeah, the man who also brought you Inverted World, Lethem, so I say more power to him. And his co-conspirator, Alex Abramovich. Dirda too. Note to thomp, you will not like the intro to this book.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Utopia14%28Vonnegut%29.jpg

Utopia 14? What the.. oh I see.

i know vonnegut is other things than 'a science fiction writer' -- but i'm sure the writer of the sentences i quote is aware that he was, amongst other things, 'a science fiction writer'. i think it's a pretty dishonest thing to write; i think it's re-entrenching divisions in a fairly pointless way, to say 'hey you can get something like vonnegut if you go and dirty your hands with this science fiction guy', when actually vonnegut's aesthetic emerged from certain conceptions of sf self-seriousness as much as anything, and if you read vonnegut and don't get that you're not a very good reader

sorry that's a bit of a tangent

i just think the comparison is framed in a dishonest & a patronising way, and i think the rest of the article betrays little more than a passing familiarity with sheckley (who i'm not expert on myself, admittedly - i don't even much like him)

OK, I see your point. I thought I saw another twist in there, I was reading it as "The answer may at first seem unexpected"

Note to thomp, you will not like the intro to this book.

hahaha

i had a look at the intro and i don't know what i'm meant to be not liking about it so ¯\ (o_o) /¯ , i guess

The bending over backwards overly defensive I'm trying desperately hard not to say it but I'm kind of ultimately forced to say it anyway you may think he is "only" an sf writer but he is actually really good position.

Should have added the word "blues" at the end.

i feel like you don't really get my position here

I got it a few posts back but I kept pursuing this other, unrelated line of inquiry. Sorry

Latest thrift store scores:
Path Into The Unknown--The Best of Soviet Science Fiction. No creds for ed or trans. Dell PB '68, orig MacGibbon & Kee Ltd, UK '66. Reputable? Intro by Judith Merril, which I've just skimmed because I don't want to be prejudiced (she's v. opinionated). She mentions some are late Stalin-era, compares them to the post-(most of 'em, I think). Is sometimes frustrated by translations, but cites several pushing their way through, especially "Wanderers and Travellers," by Arkady Strugatsky. He and brother Boris wrote "An Emergency Case." Plus, two by Ilya Varshavsky, one each by Vladislav Krapiivin, Sever Gansovsky, G. Gor, and Anatoly Dneprov. Didn't Sturgeon edit (or get his name on) an another collection of Soviet S.F.? What other Soviet of post-Soviet antholgies should I check?

Oh yeah, also from the thrift store:
The Year's Best Horror Stories XIV. DAW PB '86 , edited by Karl Edward Wagner. Incl.Charles L. Grant, Ramsey Campbell, Tanith Lee, David J. Schow, William F. Nolan, and Dennis Etchison, among many others--mostly 80s names for sure, where are they now? Horror was an 80s boomtown.
Revelation Space, Ace PB 2002, by Alastair Reynolds. Liked his anthologized stories OK, and this sports ravin' blurbs from Locus, Stephen Baxter, many others. So--?
Best of Damon Kinght, the only hardback in this haul(SF Book Club ed)

Speaking of the 80s, I read the Strugatsky brothers' Roadside Picnic and Hard To Be A God back then, both very festive.

"The New Planet" by Konstantin Yuon, 1921. Da!
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where do i start with octavia butler? she seems so cool but i have never read any of her stuff. the patternist series?

I like Tarkovsky's version of Solaris
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/6/24/1308916809537/solaris-007.jpg

Wild Seed (from the Patternist series) and Kindred first come to mind, very favorably. This is a pretty good overview:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/butler_octavia