thread of miguel

I was going to say Ne-Yo through Year of the Gentleman, Ciara, and Maxwell myself.

but none of these guys has excited me like Miguel; I have no idea what shit this guy's gonna do next.

I should also point out that I don't particularly care for the Confessions period of Usher's career.

yeah 'love/hate', 'goodies' and 'emanicpation' were my first three thoughts, but i think i'd take the 'all i want is you' trio over mariah, and probably have it tied w/ ciara behind the-dream

'blacksummersnight' is an interesting pick too... i didn't think of it but "pretty wings" and "bad habits" are monsters... i like "fistful of tears" a lot but it doesn't seem on the level of those two

"when you're mad is good" but it's kind of a major dip in b/w "so sick" and "sexy love" imo (last of which is my favorite late 90s max martin song that max martin never wrote in the late 90s)

yeah i love the album itself more than the singles per se, was just spitballing. "Fistful of Tears" came alive for me as a single, though.

haha want to hear a song called "when you're mad is good"

excuse my sloppy quotations there

ha

i LOVE "when you're mad" and think "sexy love" is kind of eh personally

man it's weird that they only released two singles off 'rappa ternt sanga', that coulda been in the running imo

actually fuck i'd rate the YOTG singles over everything -- "closer" -> "miss independent" -> "mad" was the most exhilarating singles run i can remember... anytime you got in the car was like a race against time before you had to get out and maybe not hear whatever the big ne-yo song of the time was

yep

yeah i thought about 3rd ne-yo too after i posted. love the first two but was never real into the sneezing song.

"Sexy Love" taught me to love "So Sick." "Because of You" was an even better use of the same template. The only thing that killed the run imo was whatever followed up "Because of You." I can't even remember it.

"Do You," which yes, was awful.

huh interesting, sh!p. I'd gladly read a defense of BOY, a worse album than even Libra Scale.

"Can We Chill" and "Go On Girl" were admirable non-hits, though

wiki says his next album is called The R.E.D. album, which can't be right

BOY is actually the only album of his i haven't heard, at the time the singles just disappointed me too much

there was a whole thing recently about him announcing that and the game politely responding that he was okay with it

i'm kind of disappointed that he isn't running with the astoundingly bad original title: The Cracks In Mr. Perfect

Crack on My B.E.D.

if i had to do a rough ranking of best three consecutive singles off a post-confessions r&b album i'd go w/

1 year of the gentleman
2 love/hate
3 goodies
4 all i want is you
5 blacksummersnight
6 chris brown s/t
7 basic instinct
8 futuresex/love sounds
9 thr33 ringz
10 konvicted

? i'm probably forgetting something tho

sorta fudging it i think cuz in some places i'm not necessarily counting the best three FIRST singles, but hey

I'd thrown in Marsha Ambrosius, although I prefer her album in toto.

oh good call

lol had to throw in Basic Instinct huh smh

The Miguel singles were all great tracks in their own right, but they were also really effective at introducing this new singer; each one revealed a little bit more about his act and persona. Really smart campaign.

So for me it's neck and neck between AIWISY and YOTG, with Goodies and BlackSUMMERSnight a bit behind. Those Ne-Yo singles were just so damn good; that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement

that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement

yes

was that the name of a dipset compilation?

it really bums me out btw that "Girls Like You" was kind of an afterthought 4th single that got lost in the shuffle of the Art Dealer Chic stuff coming out around the same time, that song is fucking awesome.

any of the 'art dealer' stuff getting a sniff at radio or any promotion whatsoever? just curious mostly, but it seems like something miguel has been doing on his own

afaict no, although MTV Jams does play the "Adorn" video

I wonder how he's going to present his sexuality, which is ambivalent at best.

uh have you seen the "quickie" video?

yep and I've read a few of his press clippings

so he's not a girl-crazy horndog in his press clippings i take it?

The "Arch N Press" video was what got me thinking: his combination of tuffness and feyness, the art direction, the way he presented the ladies.

isn't that every R&B star and half the rappers out these days though?

"arch n press" would be a good jingle for a nail salon

nah I get it specifically from him. Usher and Maxwell certainly don't. Ne-Yo -- lol maybe.

i went and turned our lil spitball discussion into an article

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/05/miguel_singles_best_album_ne_yo.php

good one, although you prob didn't need the Maxwell caveat, it's not like anyone really knows or cares that "Cold" was a promotional single in between radio hits

yeah, i was just being a pedant

don't think i would've ranked it any higher or lower tho had i included "fistful of tears" instead

i don't really dig "Sexy Love" or "Mad" so i think my favorite Ne-Yo run is "Stay"/"So Sick"/"When You're Mad" but of course two of those weren't very big hits.

v nice j0rdan though i disagree with a few. hadn't realised this discussion happened!

(i'm impressed that you can even untangle what the singles even were for the more recent ones)

i was mostly going off wikipedia tbh

definitely some interesting choices there...............

- i think "cold" is definitely worthy of inclusion in any three-single run from blacksummer'snight
- not down with the terius selection but you know i hate "falsetto" - would've chosen "rockin' that shit"/"my love"/"sweat it out" easily (and "my love" is the high point in that) (i'm assuming we can skip "walkin' on the moon" but i like that better than "falsetto" anyway)
- i'd have included estelle's "wait a minute"/"american boy"/"no substitute love" (or "come over") myself
- think "get up"/"promise"/"like a boy" is pretty unbeatable when it comes to ciara but it's remarkable that THREE of her albums have three-single runs that'd qualify