Oh, I completely agree. I'd take the best of the material on Load plus a couple of choice selections from Reload over everything Metallica has done since.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
reload was dire. but ugh they split up it never happened
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
Reload *is* dire, but I do think 'Fuel' is at least a keeper. I have a soft spot for 'Low Man's Lyric' too, but that's about it.
Looking at Load's tracklist I would probably drop '2x4', 'Cure', 'Poor Twisted Me', 'Thorn Within' and 'Ronnie' ... and then include the FULL version of 'The Outlaw Torn', and 'Fuel' and 'Low Man's Lyric' from Re-Load. Don't know what order I'd put the tracks in, though... and I'd still be on the fence about 'Bleeding Me'; some days it bores the shit out of me, and other days it doesn't.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
it almost doesn't make sense to even begin to assess the number of bad decisions involved in Load or later Metallica in general. but it still totally astounds me that after the back album the song they decide to come back with is "Until It Sleeps."
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
we haven't really talked about it much but lemme just say Recovering The Sattelites is so much better than it has a right to be, the better half of it is kind of perfect. and Duritz isn't as embarrassing as Dulli.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
whoa whoa whoa
― goole, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
Duritz isn't as embarrassing as Dulli.
haha no
― mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
durtiz's head alone, before he even opens the mouth attached to it, is more embarrassing than dulli.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
i tried with the Whigs, man, i really tried, but the vocals are just awful
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
some dude otm
― iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
Oooooooh, it's onnnnnnnnn...
(Personally, I think they're both kinda doofy, but I have the sense not to say as much around here...ooooooops.)
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm kinda trolling because i'm kind of amazed that Black Love seems to be arising as the consensus favorite
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
voted down on the upside tbh
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
This is me and the Hold Steady, so I sympathize with your unpopular opinion.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
eh I would be amazed if pinkerton doesn't win this poll
― iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
Also, ftr, the Whigs and the Crows had some pretty good songs, but I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a fan of either. As opposed to a few other acts on this list (at least within the general era covered by this list).
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
ok then we're 2 for 2 on the same page dude
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://foodcourtlunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/duritz3.jpg
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
Anybody remember when Dulli and Donal Logue guest hosted 120 Minutes? That was fun. He should've done more of that.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
duritz is hilariously horrifying. but "i'm not sleeping" and "children in bloom" and "catapult," those are some great brooding guitar rock songs imo.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
was donal logue in character as jimmy the cab driver?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
counting crows ugh x 10000, fans treat them like some kind of second-coming Dave Matthews Band and I DON'T GET IT I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T
sorry
calm now
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know what prompted it, but I felt compelled to 'check in' on Duritz via GIS a couple of months ago. I mean...props on consistently rockin' the dreads for > 15 years, dude.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
I know what prompted it
you are secretly in love with him
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
well it's easier when they're fake
― iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
No, but I think that was the first time I'd seen him not as Jimmy the cab driver. REVELATORY.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
dulli is/was ridiculously over the top, which was not too fashionable at the time (or to me in general). but he totally pulled it off live and however 'obvious' the whigs' rock/soul thing seems, i'm unaware of anyone (apart from prince, who they obviously adore) managing it
― mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
I can't think of a musician whose career began with execrable hair that I've been fond of
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
i am still trying to get over the revelation that donal logue was jimmy the cab driver
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone good enough for Jen is good enough for me, VG.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
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cannot be said enough
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
soon i will be forced to link to aero's reviews of said whigs
― mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
i can't think of two musicians who have less in common that prince and fucking greg dulli
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
Greg Dull more like amirite?
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://addictedtovinyl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bnlgordon.jpg??????
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i don't even really object to dulli's lyrics/persona or the whole sketchy R&B thing, if anything that's why i wish i could tolerate the singing itself
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT5K4-WWjT8
forever what i associate with this particular era: the radio IDs from the slightly cooler modern rock station that you had to really work hard to hear if you lived where i did, leading to me building a huge DIY antenna (which worked!) during the summer between 8th/9th grade
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
I now have "Einstein On The Beach (For An Eggman)" on a loop in my head. Thank you, this thread.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
lol contenderizer
― mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link
I remember that 2nd PUSA album was great, but I haven't heard it in over a decade. I did hear a bootleg of a show a few years ago and the entire audience was enthusiastically singing along to every single song. It sounded so fun!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, exactly. the boozy, self-loathing/aggrandizing cad thing is fine by me, and i like the idea of fusing heavy soul with heavy rock, but the voice just grates, and it doesn't work with the music. every element of the sound is so thick and oppressive and unnuanced. the guitar churns, the vocals bellow, the rhythm section mulches, and there's no room to breathe. musical waterboarding.
have i mentioned that i don't like the afghan whigs?
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
you have! no particular reason to heed your taste tho
― mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
On my site I have Soundgarden rated highest, then Screaming Trees and Afghan Whigs. But I'm feeling Black Love the most right now, partly because they're on my mind as I'll be seeing them at Lollapalooza for the first time since about 1992. I would have also included Tricky - Pre-Millenium Tension, though I'm not sure what kind of sales Maxinquaye had. More than a lot of these I'm sure. Ride - Tarantula too.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
first Remy Zero album
― the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
(actually Ill probably vote Hi-Fi)
of course not. it's mine, after all.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
two of my best friends are huge & eternal whigs/dulli fans. have tried so often and long to "get it", to no avail :(
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:36 (eleven years ago) link
291 posts and nobody's claimed Hi-Fi is R.E.M.'s last good album. Pleasing!
― timellison, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:36 (eleven years ago) link
thought that was a given?
― mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
^
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link