commercially disappointing major label rock/alternative albums of 1996

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Poor Scotty dubs

fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

I'm lying on my back in a used bin, in a state of sleep paralysis

Primitive Radio Gods title

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

even if you're a fan of pinkerton it's not hard to see why it wouldn't be your first choice to license singles to rockband.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

the '99 list from billstevejim's link could be from '89:

Blink 182 – All the Small Things
Bush – The Chemicals Between Us
Eve – Gotta Man
Warren G. f/Mack-10 – I Want It All
Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey – When You Believe
Jay-Z – Girl’s Best Friend
Moby – Bodyrock
Offspring – She’s Got Issues
Powerman 5000 – When Worlds Collide
Sting – Brand New Day

CLASSIC VIDEOS
Billy Joel – We Didn’t Start the Fire (1989)
Sir Mix-a-Lot – Baby Got Back (1992)

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

imo top 20 best singles from these albums:

Soundgarden - "Burden In My Hand"
Counting Crows - "Angels Of The Silences"
Pearl Jam - "Who You Are"
Stone Temple Pilots - "Big Bang Baby"
Tori Amos - "Caught A Lite Sneeze"
Metallica - "Hero Of The Day"
Better Than Ezra - "Desperately Wanting"
The Cranberries - "Salvation"
Weezer - "El Scorcho"
R.E.M. - "Bittersweet Me"
Hootie & The Blowfish - "Old Man & Me (When I Get To Heaven)"
Screaming Trees - "All I Know"
Elvis Costello - "It's Time"
The Presidents of the United States of America - "Volcano"
The Posies - "Ontario"
Afghan Whigs - "Honky's Ladder"
Bush - "Greedy Fly"
Weezer - "The Good Life"
Tori Amos - "Professional Widow"
Porno For Pyros - "Tahitian Moon"

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

spotify playlist I'm considering making for myself that reveals which albums I've heard deep cuts from and which ones I've never heard:

"My Enemy"/"A Walk"/"Desperately Wanting"/"Swallowed"/ "Angels Of The Silences"/ "Salvation"/ "Mint Car"/ "Follow You Down"/ "Hero Of The Day"/ "I'm The Ocean"/ "Mankind"/ "Mach 5"/ "Tahitian Moon"/ "Departure"/ "Sworn And Broken"/ "Pretty Noose"/ "Wax Ecstatic"/ "Big Bang Baby"/ "I Can Hear You"/ "Hey Jupiter"/ "El Scorcho"

lol xpost swear to god

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

man, NO ONE likes that cure album..

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

"Want," "The 13th" and "Mint Car" I'll rep for, though it's def the end of the road for me

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

don't know if i heard more than 2 or 3 of these in their entirity. love Tahitian Moon and the STP singles. don't recognize the names of any of the soundgarden singles from this album.

mizzell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

I've always liked "Smile" by Pearl Jam and was unsure why it wasn't a huge radio hit..

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

The Presidents of the United States of America - "Volcano"

this song is the best

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Wild Mood Swings is far from one of my favourite Cure releases. I'd definitely keep the three songs da croupier listed above, and maybe 'Return' at a push, but that's about it.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

man i love pinkerton but i don't really get "el scorcho" at all, it's a terrible and embarrassing song

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

Hongro is the board's Wild Mood Swings champion iirc

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

1996 was not the right year to release a single like "The 13th."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

"eclectic" and "bright" were the college radio charts in 1990

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

I've always liked "Smile" by Pearl Jam and was unsure why it wasn't a huge radio hit..

― billstevejim, Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:48 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

for a while PJ had worked out a nice scam of letting their not making videos translate to radio playing whatever catchy songs were on the album whether or not they had videos. by No Code that had started to slow down and "Red Mosquito" was the only non-single that charted. "Smile" is pretty good but i dunno if it really was an obvious hit.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

down on the upside, easy

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

xp "smile" stood out for me the first time i heard it because i could remember the words very quickly..

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

damn you metallica, for being powerful enough to keep spotify from cutting into your cd sales. everyone else on my list is willing to be exploited however.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

well I loved that Bad Religion album but they were also my favorite band at that point.

skip, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

spotify has no hootie. DOWN WITH HOOTIE

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

1996 was not the right year to release a single like "The 13th."

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I totally agree. I can't speak for the US, but in the UK it felt very much out-of-step with what was going on at the time. I like 'The 13th' a lot, but 'Mint Car' was definitely a more obvious single.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

'i don't really get "el scorcho" at all, it's a terrible and embarrassing song'

it's a little goofy, but no more embarrassing than a few of the other tracks on that album -- the other tracks are so earnest, they're actually a little more embarrassing, to be honest. (I guess it's the difference between camp and kitsch?) i'd definitely monetize "el scorcho" over the others.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Soundgarden - "Burden In My Hand"
Counting Crows - "Angels Of The Silences"
Pearl Jam - "Who You Are"
Stone Temple Pilots - "Big Bang Baby"
Tori Amos - "Caught A Lite Sneeze"
Metallica - "Hero Of The Day"
Better Than Ezra - "Desperately Wanting"
The Cranberries - "Salvation"
Weezer - "El Scorcho"
R.E.M. - "Bittersweet Me"
Hootie & The Blowfish - "Old Man & Me (When I Get To Heaven)"
Screaming Trees - "All I Know"
Elvis Costello - "It's Time"
The Presidents of the United States of America - "Volcano"
The Posies - "Ontario"
Afghan Whigs - "Honky's Ladder"
Bush - "Greedy Fly"
Weezer - "The Good Life"
Tori Amos - "Professional Widow"
Porno For Pyros - "Tahitian Moon"

^^^^this looks positively hellish to me tbh

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Video didn't help

fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Was this the year alt-rock died? This is a pretty dire list. The only two I own are the REM and Soundgarden and I don't really like either. Think I'll pass...

Moodles, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

I still play "Black Love," and would have no problem playing "New Adventures." "No Code" holds up well, for Pearl Jam. "Pinkerton" is pretty good, too. "Down on the Upside" features one of only a couple Soundgarden songs I really like.

Some of those above albums were so bad they were in cutout bins the day the album came out.

Don't think I've ever heard Neil Young's "Broken Arrow," which serves the same purpose for an act I otherwise adore as "Test for Echo" does for Rush.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

"Only Wanna Be With You" is available, hootie-wise, thanks to a Rhino Hi-Five: Summer Hits comp. That and "I Go Blind" are it, though.

I definitely understand if someone thinks "El Scorcho" is the stand-out, either in a good or bad way.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

"I'm The Ocean" is the only track on Mirror Ball that I think is a must-hear for Neil fans.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

"I'm The Ocean" is his best post-SWA track period.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

xp Re: the year alt-rock died, a similar thread could have easily been put together for 97 or 98. it was a totally different game by the start of 99.

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

eminem/blink/slipknot/etc

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

a similar thread could have easily been put together for 97 or 98.

samadhi, yo. samadhi.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

this is Filth Pig btw

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

if some dude made similar lists for 1997 and 1998, i would certainly take kindly to them.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

i think the roster of high profile failures was smaller for '97 or '98, but yeah it was an overall trend all through that period.

i checked Test For Echo when putting together the list but Rush held onto the same kind of sales figures as Counterparts

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

amazingly we haven't even gotten to how uniformly bad the cover art is for almost every single one of these, either.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

was the cover art great for any of the big hit albums before these, though?

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Not a fan of any of these but if I had to listen to any one of them right now it would be October Rust.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

'99 was the year after the first huge major-label merge.. lots of rock bands were dropped from majors, and the ones who weren't received little to no push regarding radio spins.. bands like cardigans and local h and nada surf tried to follow-up on their initial success but no one was working to promote them, and the idea of maintaining career artists out of the 90's alt-rock bands seemed like a lost cause.

aka weezer chose a very good time to go on a batshit insane hiatus.

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

REM> Screaming Trees> Tori> pthrrrt

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

was the cover art great for any of the big hit albums before these, though?

― da croupier, Thursday, May 3, 2012 4:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

probably not, no, just saying

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

man, NO ONE likes that cure album..

because it's a bag of shit

it has 2 great songs ("Want", "The 13th"), 4 good/okay songs ("Jupiter Crash", "Trap", "Bare", "Treasure"), one song I like even though I think it's objectively terrible ("Gone!") and then everything else is horrible (I will grant them "Round and Round and Round" was great live but not so much on record)

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

this is Filth Pig btw

― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:05 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nuh-uh. "Reload" is the shit, tho.

do dat do dat do do dat dat dat (thewufs), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

i like mint car even though it's so stupid.

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

listening to it now!

CLOUDS DRIFT BY AND EVERYTHING IS LIKE A DREAM

da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

what i don't get is that robert smith claims that he hated "friday i'm in love" and then "mint car" was obviously intended to be a follow-up to that song.

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

the fact that both "Mint Car" and "Return" are on that album hurts me deep in my heart

what i don't get is that robert smith claims that he hated "friday i'm in love" and then "mint car" was obviously intended to be a follow-up to that song.

Maybe he thought "Friday I'm In Love" was too charming? idk

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

"We hated our second highest charting single so much that we're going to hold our noses and record a soundalike."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link


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