okay, pretend i used kirke or dunham for my example instead
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
everyone calls dunham by her name tho and not the daughter of X.
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
i've seen it done. it was more forced than the others, though.
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
yes, it's so much easier to remember 'that is non-celebrity brian williams' daughter' every time you hear the name of the character 'marnie' or see 'olivia williams' in the credits than it is to remember that the character is named 'marnie' or the actress 'olivia williams'
― thomp, Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:41 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
i love that you actually helped support your point by accidentally getting her first name wrong
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
david mamets daughter is the only endearing one of these daughters
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
is the english one the daughter of anyone not particularly famouse
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
daughter of somewhat successful artist whose name i cant recall, bad company relation (unsure which character this is), someone else famouses child, brian williams daughter
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
Her name is briana
― buzza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
if it helps i also have no idea who brian williams actually is
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
sussudio mamet
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
jeff company
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
lisa 'tiny' dunham
did anyone in itft notice how much more interesting tiny furniture is than this show
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
xxxp he's pretty famous in the US
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
b. d. williams
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
Just out of curiosity, for those of you calling this your favorite current show (after three episodes!): what other shows do you enjoy?
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
this is like the more famous daughter of a film that isnt so famous but was actually more accomplished
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
dear ilx television programming expert derek w. haircare,
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
There was no subtext. I was just asking a question.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
Feel free to get overly-defensive, though.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
lol touché
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
favourite television programmes
are
i girlsii hard talk with stephen sackuriii maxgif
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
untitled Brian Williams' daughter's project
― buzza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
thomp, do u watch 30 Rock regularly?
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:41 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
alternatively, it's straight up misogynist bullshit
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:42 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm. i have no idea who lena dunham's mum is, to me she is the woman behind that awesome movie tiny furniture. i only know williams from 30 rock becz lol britishes. zosia mamet i know through her being awesome on Mad Men and The Kids Are Alright. And who the fuck is/was Bad Company's drummer?
― Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
he was the drummer for bad company
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:02 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:03 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i am genuinely curious! i think ilx needs to know more about how you feel about television
mordy i watched the first two and a half seasons and then found i didn't like it as much as i did when i started. i have been watching occasional episodes of this season and got fairly excited about the live one.
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think we need to otm every vacuous accusation of misogyny.
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
OTM
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
misogynist^
otm^
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
there are 4 characters in the show. i most frequently hear them referred to as: brian william's daughter, david mamet's daughter, lena dunham, and the british one. the first two are the daughters of very famous ppl, ppl whose fame completely eclipses their progenies at this point in time. lena dunham's name is lena dunham. the british one's father's name is not 'the british.'
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
don't then, you condescending douchebag
― Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
'daughter of britannia'
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
I'll agree that referring to the cast of Girls as "such-and-such's daughter" is douchey, but...I guess referring to the parentage of the Beatles progeny who are talking about starting a band = misandry?
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, that's a totally tonally appropriate response. your dad is gay.
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
she is actually from a british girls clone called
Burdz
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes, you're right. that would be misandry. that is exactly correct.
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
they just decided on second season theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHZIK4Ymr0A
― buzza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
now now dont go white history monthing deric, thomp
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
this show was funded by grants set aside for white history month iirc
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
'white history monthing' seems like it's actually a surprisingly helpful verb form
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
if you don't see how this is condescending then you must be profoundly unaware of how much of a douchebag you seem
― Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think maybe mordy called ilx shrill but u know ilx can be shrill and mordy is profoundly aware of that
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
the casting should be applauded on esthetic grounds rather than as materiel for the usual nominative/communitarian ruction
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
i would totally be up for a two lights biopic in which every character was played by the illegitimate son of a brat pack member
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
i just realized the person being referred to in the "your dad is gay" line was the co-star of Bosom Buddies
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
GIRLS starring "the drummer from bad company's daughter" and "tom hanks' former co-worker"
― madame boo berry (donna rouge), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
thomp, that's from this: http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/03/fear-of-reese-witherspoon-look-alikes-on-the-pill.html
― s.clover, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
the casting obliquely makes a case for nepotism as a rising tide that lifts all boats, cuz daughters and sons are equally favoured it actually has a 'progressive' component
and it works as a 'wry commentary', cuz here is a show about young NYC media hopefuls, but don't forget that the people playing them already have media careers at 22 or w/e thanks at least in some mesure to their connections
i dont think anyone is arguing they arent good enough for their roles? so yeah.....kirke especially is kinda brilliant tho but see tiny furniture more for that
idk how much this is the case in america, with its political dynasties and tradition of plutocratic pseudo-nobility but in the uk at any rate, there seems to be a return to values that (tacitly or otherwise) favour ~good breeding~ and nepotism is in especially fine form these days
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
Again we are in some looking glass world where being the daughter of Bad Company's drummer opens doors.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link