or valley girl!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link
I remember really liking The Incredibly True Adventures of Two Girls in Love, but I haven't seen it since it came out.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:28 (twelve years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/VIWarshawskiKathleenTurnerFrenchDVDCover.jpg
― DavidM, Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link
kill bill
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
Fargo, Broadcast News, Rosemary's Baby, Carrie, Heart Like a Wheel...I'm sure others will occur to me throughout the day.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:37 (twelve years ago) link
opening night
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link
ALIENS
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:42 (twelve years ago) link
silence of the lambs
― underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link
kill bill 2
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:54 (twelve years ago) link
Angel, Angel, Down We Go The BirdsBoom!BoundBunny Lake is MissingBye Bye BirdieA Chronicle of CorpsesCrazy in AlabamaDead RingerDesperate LivingDown With LoveFar From HeavenFaster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! Hairspray (John Waters 1988)The Honeymoon KillersHousekeepingIllusions (Julie Dash 1980)Inland EmpireKluteThe Legend of Lylah ClareLove StreamsMarnieMary (Abel Ferrara 2005)Mildred Pierce (Todd Haynes 2011)Mulholland DriveThe Naked KissPetuliaQueen of DiamondsRed Line 7000Roof (Betsy Kalin 1998)Ruby in Paradise'R Xmas7 WomenSafeSecret CeremonySextetteShowgirlsSleepwalkS.O.B.Such Good FriendsThe Tamarind SeedWandaWhen Pigs FlyWhite DogWomen of the Night (Zalman King 2000)Xanadu You Are Not I
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
Oh and duh Mommie Dearest
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link
All my favourites are high school mean girl flicks: Heathers, Jawbreaker, Saved!, Easy A, and of course, Mean Girls.
― Roz, Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link
is this gonna be the next poll?
― Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
also -- a woman under the influence, hannah and her sisters and gloria
― Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
KJB otm.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago) link
Jane Campion's The Portrait of a Lady
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
The Company
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:54 (twelve years ago) link
margaret
― just sayin, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link
bridesmaids
Thelma & LouiseThe Long Kiss GoodnightBuffy the Vampire SlayerJosie & The PussycatsCharlie's AngelsSucker Punch
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:03 (twelve years ago) link
ContactSaltThe Others
Following are not actually my favourites:Erin BrockivichSteel MagnoliasMystic PizzaGI JaneBlue SteelMonsterGirl, InterruptedStepmomPrivate BenjaminThe Devil Wears PradaThe HoursSister Act
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
seconding KJB on Housekeeping
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
Thirded.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
Technically, thirded and fourthed. I seconded the list en masse.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
Bonjour TristesseErin Brockovich3 Women
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
An Unmarried Woman and (combination '70s sap/Neil Young fan--pretty iffy otherwise) Diary of a Mad Housewife.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link
Resident Evil
― how's life, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
TerminatorAlienAliensHalloweenMs. 45
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
Ms. 45
Yes + Serial Mom.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
And Jackie Brown.
But, yeah, among recent movies in which female protagonists don't kill people or narrowly avoid being killed by people, I definitely enjoy The Company, Ghost World and The Bridges of Madison County.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:01 (twelve years ago) link
the private lives of pippa lee isnt my fav or anything @ all, it's ok, but i do remember thinking @ the time i saw it that it was a dream, meaty role for an adult woman
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
also, ones i like
looking for mr. goodbarthe runawayscarrie
>S.O.B.
i watched this like last week. don't mean to nitpick but julie andrews def has less screentime than prob like 4 other characters
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link
Ladies and Gentleman, the Fabulous Stains (on the female protagonists not killing or avoiding being killed tip)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
Heavenly Creatures
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
Although I guess that's New Zealand so nevermind
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
the alien is clearly coded as male, even if we don't find out its technical gender
i was skimming and i assumed tuomas was talking about a very different movie to the one he was talking about
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost World
Oh gawd yeah. How could I forget that one?
More: Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, Vixen, Viva, Marci X, Desperate Teenage Lovedolls, Daughters of the Dust, The Swap, [/i]Sin in the Suburbs[/i], Moonlighting Wives, The Rats Are Coming! The Werewolves Are Here!, Seeds of Sin, Fleshpot on 42nd Street, Bad Girls Go to Hell, etc.
I left out films in which strong female protagonists are played by men (Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble, Dinah East, maybe She-Man) and vice versa (I'm Not There, a stretch anyway and I'm blanking on others...does She-Man fit in here?).
Also, "protagonist" doesn't make much sense in the avant-garde but women directors sure do: Peggy Ahwesh, Stephanie Barber, Abigail Child, Leslie Thornton, Beth B, Su Friedrich, etc.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
switchblade sisterscaged heat
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
S.O.B.
Yawn. I knew that would happen. Ok true. But her brazooms set everything in motion. And Bunny Lake is Missing was shot in England and co-stars Olivier. But Carol Lynley is American. And so is Preminger (but is he?). And so on.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
Alan Rudolph's Mortal Thoughts (Demi Moore's career justified)
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
I liked all of these to varying degrees, IIRC:
The BirdsRosemary's BabyA Woman Under the InfluenceCarrieAnother WomanSilence of the LambsThe Man in the Moon (1991)Reality BitesTo Die ForCluelessSafeWelcome to the DollhouseI Shot Andy WarholBoundContactRomy and Michele's High School ReunionJackie BrownHigh ArtThe Last Days of DiscoSlums of Beverly HillsBoys Don't CryDickErin BrockovichNurse BettyGhost WorldThe Good GirlFar from HeavenMonsterThe CompanyKill Bill v. 1 and 2Mean GirlsMillion Dollar BabyJunoRachel Getting MarriedWendy and LucyFrozen RiverPrecious: Based on the Novel "Push" by SapphireWinter's BoneWhip ItBlack SwanPlease GiveBridesmaidsMargaretMartha Marcy May Marlene
― sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Yes on Looking for Mr. Goodbar. I thought about Jackie Brown, but it seems to be as much or more about Sam Jackson and Robert Forster. But you could probably say the same of Broadcast News.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
FreewayElection
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for reminding me about High Art and Please Give, jaymc.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
KJB's list is super OH YEAH timenice work!
Also if they haven't been mentioned yet
Valley of the DollsBeyond the Valley of the Dolls
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
SatisfactionLittle Darlings Foxes
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
Where the Boys Are (is that 50 years ago or not?)
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
Gas Food Lodging
I should just slow down and make a list like a normal person.
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
BadlandsOut Of The BlueCarnival Of Souls
― O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
Nobody's mentioned "3 Women" yet! Where are the Altman stans?
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, May 3, 2012 11:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's one of his worst movies, though (IMO).
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link
Blue Car is really good.
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Friday, 4 May 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
It's interesting to note that many of these movies fail to pass the Bechdel test... I think one reason I had a hard time coming up with good examples was because I was unconsciously excluding movies that don't pass.
― Tuomas, Friday, 4 May 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
The thread premise is 'with female protagonists' tho, not 'which pass the Bechdel test'.
haha I totally read Morbius: the Bechdel Test as the title of an imagined film.
Call yr contacts at Marvel. I'll have my treatment ready by monday.
― bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
the Runaways! def passes the Bechdel test
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like the Runaways a whole lot more if it had nothing to do with the Runaways and was just a throwaway movie about a fictional girlband
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway, the Bechdel test is an interesting exercise to look at the state of women in movies in general, but isn't very useful in assessing individual movies, IMO.
― MrDasher, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i agree with that.
― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, nor is the 'female protagonist' thing, without a list of criteria... Though asking for favourites does make it a slightly different exercise.
― emil.y, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
Where are the Altman stans?
The only movie I mentioned was an Altman! Even though most of his films featured ensembles where few individuals really stood out above the pack, he generally made good use of female protagonists. He was a very female-friendly director (in many senses).
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
No one likes Terms of Endearment?
― Träumerei, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
prefer Steel Magnolias
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
love terms of endearment
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
I really like Nicole Holofcener's movies, Lovely & Amazing and Friends With Money. Both are largely populated by female protagonists and both pass the Bechdel test (according to bechdeltest.com).
― brontosaur, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
Bring it On!
― brontosaur, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
dug friends with money, haven't seen lovely & amazing. have meant to forever, just never got around to it.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
Walking and Talking is my favorite of hers
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
walking and talking and please give are the best holofceners imo; walking and talking is my fave, too.
― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
― MrDasher, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:57 (3 hours ago) Permalink
yeah, it's idiotic as some kind of litmus test for watching/appreciating individual films but thinking about it gives you a sense of hollywood's generally sexist orientation.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
Nobody's mentioned "3 Women"
I mentioned it yesterday morning
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
disagree w/r/t hollywood -- hollywood's sexism is evidenced by gender disparity in high-power/high-pay jobs. the actual product is pretty much audience-driven.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for making me Google the "Bechdel test"
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:09 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
And morbs mentioned that you mentioned it last night!
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
i'm gonna mention it again just in case: 3 women.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
"which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!"it ... sort of is! having no principles w/r/t making money means that the only barrier is the audience's willingness to pay for it.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, mel gibson got his foreign-language torture movies made because enough people wanted to see it, jesus!
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:26 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but... i don't follow.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
What, is this a poll or a listing?
1. Aliens 2. Alien3. Heathers
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
"but... i don't follow."what i mean is that the sexism in hollywood that puts a glass ceiling on, say, a woman wanting to become a director or producer wouldn't stop a movie with two or more female characters talking about stuff getting made, provided it could make a lot of money.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
You're assuming that hollywood has a crystal ball that shows it what people want - the evidence here is shaky to say the least.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
It's not so much a crystal ball as simply thinking "people like Julia Roberts/Cameron Diaz/Kate Hudson/Anne Hathaway etc., so let's develop stuff for them."
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that hollywood doesn't have a crystal ball makes them that much more likely to embrace a non-sexist formula movie if one were shown to be highly profitable. like if elfquest starring naomi klein as capt. nologo made $200million, there'd be nothing but non-sexist, socially progressive elf movies forever.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
dare to dream
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
so where are all the Bridesmaids knockoffs btw
aren't there like 2 or 3 already in the pipeline?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
panic room
― omar little, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
is carnival of souls too old to make the cutoff?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
no ones mentioned the travelling pants movies fyi
― johnny crunch, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
havent seen them but the protagonists are female pants i hear
Bridesmaids was retrograde and shallow too so no worries
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
But it had an Irish leading male!
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
Not so much, seemingly: http://jezebel.com/5907744/the-truth-about-women-and-hollywood-these-actresses-theyre-fucked-good-luck-to-kate-and-reese
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link