GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

w/r/t the conservative angle/nytimes editorial i mean it figures that douthat of all ppl would enjoy any and all things in the genre of "bad sex." I mean is this 2nd rate dunham or what:

"One successful foray ended on the guest bed of a high school friend’s parents, with a girl who resembled a chunkier Reese Witherspoon drunkenly masticating my neck and cheeks. It had taken some time to reach this point–”Do most Harvard guys take so long to get what they want?” she had asked, pushing her tongue into my mouth. I wasn’t sure what to say, but then I wasn’t sure this was what I wanted. My throat was dry from too much vodka, and her breasts, spilling out of pink pajamas, threatened my ability to. I was supposed to be excited, but I was bored and somewhat disgusted with myself, with her, with the whole business… and then whatever residual enthusiasm I felt for the venture dissipated, with shocking speed, as she nibbled at my ear and whispered–”You know, I’m on the pill…”

i'm glad i spelled seinfeld correctly. proof i guess against my better judgment i'm gen x. xpost w that thread.

a friend high-fived me tonight when i agreed that this show was my favourite tv right now.
we were at an indie-art-rock show.
i felt like i was on tv.

yeah haha i don't think this show is about profound moments because it's about the everyday life of certain twenty-somethings who while being somewhat-to-greatly self-conscious aren't all that self-aware. there's a difference, and so their profound moments don't necessarily seem all that profound even though they might be monumental in their lives at the time - i wouldn't call those moments trivial though. i mean, true, maybe in mainstream movies and tv, people have profound life-changing moments all the time, but that's the traditional nature of that stream of the medium. remember what a big deal it was that Seinfeld was "a show about nothing"? and it was, and that was great. but this show is about more than that.

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:10 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM!!

also at least 2 stevies on ilx love this show

"One successful foray ended on the guest bed of a high school friend’s parents, with a girl who resembled a chunkier Reese Witherspoon drunkenly masticating my neck and cheeks. It had taken some time to reach this point–”Do most Harvard guys take so long to get what they want?” she had asked, pushing her tongue into my mouth. I wasn’t sure what to say, but then I wasn’t sure this was what I wanted. My throat was dry from too much vodka, and her breasts, spilling out of pink pajamas, threatened my ability to. I was supposed to be excited, but I was bored and somewhat disgusted with myself, with her, with the whole business… and then whatever residual enthusiasm I felt for the venture dissipated, with shocking speed, as she nibbled at my ear and whispered–”You know, I’m on the pill…”

wtf is this

i'm really looking forward to the whole "let's refer to these characters ONLY AS XXXXX'S DAUGHTER" thing to run its course.

Maybe because no one knows the name of the characters?

yes, it's so much easier to remember 'that is non-celebrity brian williams' daughter' every time you hear the name of the character 'marnie' or see 'olivia williams' in the credits than it is to remember that the character is named 'marnie' or the actress 'olivia williams'

alternatively, it's straight up misogynist bullshit

since when is brian williams not a celebrity?

okay, pretend i used kirke or dunham for my example instead

everyone calls dunham by her name tho and not the daughter of X.

i've seen it done. it was more forced than the others, though.

yes, it's so much easier to remember 'that is non-celebrity brian williams' daughter' every time you hear the name of the character 'marnie' or see 'olivia williams' in the credits than it is to remember that the character is named 'marnie' or the actress 'olivia williams'

― thomp, Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:41 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

i love that you actually helped support your point by accidentally getting her first name wrong

david mamets daughter is the only endearing one of these daughters

is the english one the daughter of anyone not particularly famouse

daughter of somewhat successful artist whose name i cant recall, bad company relation (unsure which character this is), someone else famouses child, brian williams daughter

Her name is briana

i love that you actually helped support your point by accidentally getting her first name wrong

if it helps i also have no idea who brian williams actually is

sussudio mamet

jeff company

lisa 'tiny' dunham

did anyone in itft notice how much more interesting tiny furniture is than this show

xxxp he's pretty famous in the US

b. d. williams

Just out of curiosity, for those of you calling this your favorite current show (after three episodes!): what other shows do you enjoy?

this is like the more famous daughter of a film that isnt so famous but was actually more accomplished

dear ilx television programming expert derek w. haircare,

• what are your favourite television programmes? we would love to know
• what is an acceptable number of episodes before one decides one enjoys a television programme

There was no subtext. I was just asking a question.

Feel free to get overly-defensive, though.

lol touché

favourite television programmes

are

i girls
ii hard talk with stephen sackur
iii maxgif

untitled Brian Williams' daughter's project

thomp, do u watch 30 Rock regularly?

yes, it's so much easier to remember 'that is non-celebrity brian williams' daughter' every time you hear the name of the character 'marnie' or see 'olivia williams' in the credits than it is to remember that the character is named 'marnie' or the actress 'olivia williams'

― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:41 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

alternatively, it's straight up misogynist bullshit

― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:42 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. i have no idea who lena dunham's mum is, to me she is the woman behind that awesome movie tiny furniture. i only know williams from 30 rock becz lol britishes. zosia mamet i know through her being awesome on Mad Men and The Kids Are Alright. And who the fuck is/was Bad Company's drummer?

he was the drummer for bad company

There was no subtext. I was just asking a question.

― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:02 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feel free to get overly-defensive, though.

― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:03 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am genuinely curious! i think ilx needs to know more about how you feel about television

mordy i watched the first two and a half seasons and then found i didn't like it as much as i did when i started. i have been watching occasional episodes of this season and got fairly excited about the live one.

i don't think we need to otm every vacuous accusation of misogyny.

OTM

misogynist^

otm^

there are 4 characters in the show. i most frequently hear them referred to as: brian william's daughter, david mamet's daughter, lena dunham, and the british one. the first two are the daughters of very famous ppl, ppl whose fame completely eclipses their progenies at this point in time. lena dunham's name is lena dunham. the british one's father's name is not 'the british.'

i don't think we need to otm every vacuous accusation of misogyny.

don't then, you condescending douchebag

'daughter of britannia'

I'll agree that referring to the cast of Girls as "such-and-such's daughter" is douchey, but...I guess referring to the parentage of the Beatles progeny who are talking about starting a band = misandry?

don't then, you condescending douchebag

yeah, that's a totally tonally appropriate response. your dad is gay.

she is actually from a british girls clone called

Burdz

I'll agree that referring to the cast of Girls as "such-and-such's daughter" is douchey, but...I guess referring to the parentage of the Beatles progeny who are talking about starting a band = misandry?

― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, you're right. that would be misandry. that is exactly correct.

they just decided on second season theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHZIK4Ymr0A

now now dont go white history monthing deric, thomp

this show was funded by grants set aside for white history month iirc

'white history monthing' seems like it's actually a surprisingly helpful verb form