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those were mostly the same people

Oh, absolutely!

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think the 20-year generations thing is going to work at all from the 1990s onward (and was obv problematic before). Kids born five years apart seem like they're going to have vastly different experiences.

I was born in '81 and I feel like while we were around the first to 'grow up with the Internet,' the technological pace was relatively slow and we had a lot of culture in common with people a few years older (esp. if we had older siblings or friends). Whereas now I'd be lumped into Gen Y and I am just utterly, massively confused by the experiences of anyone 5 years younger than me, much less 10-20.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

The other 20 year problem is that ppl aren't having their kids at 20 in the same numbers they used to.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

As a teenager I wrote and drew for the 'teen' section of the local paper (called ATTITUDE, a word that took up half the page like a WWII "WAR!" headline because they could never generate enough content). One of my teenaged peers, a redheaded Wiccan, wrote a column called THE VOICE OF X. This was 1998 or so, and she kept having to rebuff letters to the editor alleging she was too young to be a gen X'er. Seriously, half her columns were about trying to define generations in a way that justified the name of her column. It was pretty silly.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

the 'president when you were eighteen' infogram is stupid, because (since we lack indisputable proof that eighteen is the year when political convictions were irrevocably formed, and has been this way the entire time anyone of voting age now has been alive) you could tell an entirely different story by shifting the goalposts - just take 'president when you were sixteen' or 'when you were twenty-one' as determining it instead

nah there is evidence that youthful political convictions generally stick but even if there weren't, the point is to observe a set group over time

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

To what extent do you think you fit in/identify w/your generation?

I straddle the line between fitting the stereotype and heavily relating to this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61AMJNM5BWL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Really, though, I don't know that any of this generational labeling is particularly meaningful in anything but the broadest sense (e.g. there are a lot of boomers, generation "text" or whatevs is probably gonna be more tech-savvy). If you think you've adequately summed up and/or are the voice of a particular generation, you're probably doing it wrong.

Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

it occurs to me that the easiest way to read the top row is 'old people are racist'

xp

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

instead of being concerned with generations of the past I think we should think about generations of the future

for example:
the spacefaring generation
the exoplanet terraforming generation

dayo, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, i think the graph is interesting but i think that the goalposts are pretty arbitrary: they're assuming the weight of political consciousness falls the same way upon someone who turns eighteen the day of the new frontier speech as it does someone who turns eighteen the day they join a march yelling 'hey hey lbj etc'

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

i voted millenials haha suck it millenials

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

and i think the results for
'not yet eighteen when kennedy was shot'
'not yet eighteen during watergate'
'not yet eighteen during the iran hostage crisis'
'not yet eighteen when the berlin war fell'
'not yet eighteen for gulf war ii'
would probably confirm our biases just as effectively and yet they'd tell a pretty different story about 'generations'

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

oy, spot the error

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

who told them about our secret language

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

millenials seems the least skeptical of authority of anyone since them who fought in the great wars

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

People of Clemenza's generation do kind of interest me, those old enough to have soaked up the energy of the '60s and then experience the whiplash into the stupor of the '70s... perhaps it didn't actually feel like that in the moment but it certainly looks like that in (US-biased) retrospect.

The only time I remember that felt like a massive zeitgeist shift was around 1979-1981.

Side note: I seem to recall that when Douglas Coupland came out with the book Generation X the people in it were mostly born in the early 1960s, like Coupland himself. Somehow the Gen X boundary got shifted forward to 1965 and early '60s is now "late boomers." Which actually seems to make more sense to me.

Josefa, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

haha people who are zero whats up w/them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

dayo, your hopes for the future are awfully sanguine. First there's going to be the drone gang war generation

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

generation Z (zero)

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

generation waterworld

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

voted for millenials because i hope for my son's sake that his generation is slightly less insufferable than the current young adult crowd

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

considering voting for gen z because they are the spawn of gen x

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

millenials seems the least skeptical of authority of anyone since them who fought in the great wars

I dunno man, that's the narrative but it seems like the Occupy movement was as millenial as it was any other generation.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

I'm in that gray zone between X and Y and can't imagine anyone worse that my peers

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno man, do you think the kids 5 or 10 or 15 years younger than us are cooler? semi-serious question.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

graph of shitty NYT op-ed writers by generation

thomas friedman (b. 1953) - baby boomer
ross douthat (b. 1979) - gen X
david brooks (b. 1961) - gen X
maureen dowd (b. 1952) - baby boomer

some other writers

jonah goldberg (b. 1969) - gen X
kathleen parker (b. 1951) - baby boomer
jennifer rubin (b. 1968) - gen X
kathryn jean lopez (b. 1976) - gen X

<drops mic>

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno man, that's the narrative but it seems like the Occupy movement was as millenial as it was any other generation.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:12 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are literally thousands of millenials critical of the governments monetary policy, call in the paramilitaries

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

haha

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.people-press.org/files/2011/11/11-3-11-45.png

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

wow 64% of the silent generation is not very silent when it comes to answering poll questions

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

they just blink once for yes, twice for no

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

http://meyermktg.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/genx5.jpg

"we made it!! we're set for life!! I wish kurt cobain were around to see how far we've come..."

http://www.people-press.org/files/2011/11/11-3-11-61.png

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

wow 64% of the silent generation is not very silent when it comes to answering poll questions

― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:37 AM (12 minutes ago)

awww you're talking about my parents here!

sarahell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

lol silent generation is such a mean name

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

my dad always refers to his generation as war babies

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

guess thats a lil narrower window

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think it's that mean, there are definitely plenty of times when i wish my mom were more silent.

sarahell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

(xp to iatee) all that graph really says is that Gen Xers bought a ton of stupid mortgages

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

that's the only thing I wanted it to say

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

well then, success

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

i bought zero stupid mortgages but then i dont identify as genX im my own generation u cant define me

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

i only like pavement i dont love them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

i bouht zero stupid mortgages because i am not a sell-out like those other people who were born around the same time i was.

sarahell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

I bought a stupid mortgage and Kurt Cobain is still dead!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

you didn't think that would resurrect him?

sarahell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

I bought zero stupid mortgages because I did a ton of research before signing any papers

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

not a hard rule, but all this bloody internecine generational conflict on ilx makes me realize that the posters i really like tend to be members of my generational cohort.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

hah i feel like im more down w/the millenials even tho i voted them the worst

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

mordy, iatee, lorax, frogbs

a special generation with a special acronym

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link


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