GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

generations are pretty big, everyone who isn't a baby boomer or gen y is somewhere in the gen x spectrum

yeah i was surprised at marnie's reaction to that idiotic thing that dude said, too. lena dunham explained it in the little after-the-show clip but it still seems kind of out-of-character.

marnie doesn't seem like a figment to me

like i thought the whole thing was going to be, marnie's having one of those intense flirty nights w/ this guy shes into, and he says this ridiculous thing and it completely ruins the moment

Mostly I'm taking away that girls in this generation have names that start with the same letter.

was super-excited to see james legros

Gen X had nothing to do with the '50s. Though the '50s did give birth to youth culture, and young people are angsty and self-obsessed, so there's that.

Generation X the book = based on Generation X the Billy Idol band = named after Generation X the 50's sociology book that Idol's mum had on a shelf.

Named after =/= based on, obviously.

really generation y ought to be referred to as generation x-subscript-2

The letters X and Y precede hundreds of generations.

xps

There's "generation X" as a term that has been wheeled out since the 50s and then there's the generation which we currently refer to with that term.

A generation of young people about whose future there is uncertainty; a lost generation. In later use: spec. a generation of young people (esp. North Americans reaching adulthood in the 1980s and 1990s) perceived to be disaffected, directionless, or irresponsible, and reluctant to participate in society.

1952 Holiday Dec. 41/2 What, you may well ask, is Generation X?‥ These are the youngsters who have seen and felt the agonies of the past two decades,‥who are trying to keep their balance in the swirling pressures of today, and who will have the biggest say in the course of history for the next 50 years.
1964 C. Hamblett & J. Deverson Generation X 8 The ultimate responsibility of Generation X is to guide the human race through the final and crucial decades of this explosive century into the enlightenment of the next one.

marine is a little better but not by much -- but it seemed really clear to me that her scenes in episode 3 were hers, the whole, "uptight girl gets sexual mind blown by Andy Samberg sidekick" thing

― max, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:48 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i mean i got what was happening from a character standpoint, its just in the execution it felt very hannah-y - just imagine dunham in those gallery scenes kind of mumbling to herself and going along with short dorky jizz in his pants guy and its a perfect fit. i didnt buy it, i guess its just me though

only generation x could take a thread about millennials and turn it into a thread about them

xp - No fair enough, switch the 'based on' to 'named after', just saying it's been a tag that's been around for a while - Douglass Coupland isn't the first to pin specific behaviours to general fecklessness, but his has stuck a bit better because a) he's Douglass Coupland and b) we were all the right age for it :)

xp nah i didnt buy it either really, i suppose it makes a little more sense if you imagine that the guy is some hip artist who marnie is really into

only generation x could take a thread about millennials and turn it into a thread about them

― max, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:22 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pretty sure boomers could've done this handily, too

It only makes sense to me if part of the attraction is his prestige

yeah i mean i got what was happening from a character standpoint, its just in the execution it felt very hannah-y - just imagine dunham in those gallery scenes kind of mumbling to herself and going along with short dorky jizz in his pants guy and its a perfect fit. i didnt buy it, i guess its just me though

― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:22 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hannah definitely would have rolled her eyes at "when i fuck you, it might scare you a little, cause i'm a man," though! marnie's desperate for the kind of fun she thinks she's not having in a committed long-term relationship. but it's still kind of hard for me to buy her not snorting at what that dude said.

I asked my mom and she said you gen x'ers are being mean and she's going to call stet and complain if you don't knock it off.

it would have worked better if the dude had been a really ladykiller/hottie but a real ladykiller/hottie wouldn't have said that.

no i think it was good that he was sort of normal-looking and a dick

he was highly plausible all-around

hannah would have said something like: "scary, like, are you going to wear a scary mask or something?"

right, that makes sense, cuz it is something a jerky guy would say in a bar. but her reaction was...extreme to say the least.

i was surprised at marnie's reaction to that idiotic thing that dude said, too.

i just assumed she is so sick of her boyfriend that anyone who is not like him will seem AWESOME and a possible escape. she's not a massively likeable character but i don't mind that.

i mean i "got" the psychological motivation and reaction it just seemed a bit... much to have her run to the bathroom to rub one out

well she's an art-history girl and he's an artist she admires, right? (i hope i'm not stereotyping by calling her an art-history girl.)

xxp i think that is what the show is saying, yes. it's just that marnie seems generally disdainful of horrible men so that moment is jarring.

anyway, this show is fun enough for me. she can kinda go anywhere with it. that's the fun part.

Yeah maybe Marnie is turned on by any sort of aggressive talk even if it's from a douchebag, since her boyfriend is so even-handed and nice. Like sex with dude who thinks he's in charge would be a great break from a dude who is probably asking "is that ok for you? do you like this?"

Grass always being greener, etc...

yeah wait until she finds out sex with everyone is pretty mediocre

well she was telling the boyfriend to be a man in the other episode.

i mean she says as much in the second episode, again i dont think the character motivations are unclear, it all "makes sense," i just think that its a weird way for the scene to be played given the way the series has (so far) treated sex

lol @ "be a man"

I guess that still sounds sexier than "have some self-confidence," though.

she fantasizes about men with self-confidence, max. nothing weird there.

I'm relieved to see people here (and Dunham) shooting down the efficacy of Jorma's sex talk. The way that line played out in the show (combined with all of the 'voice of a generation' stuff) had me worried that shit like that was secretly A Thing That Works. It was despair-worthy.

wtf is Jorma, are you using some obscure actor dude's name, I am confuse

loled at 'The Craft' - 'American History X' exchange

"american history x" was weak, but "you look like you're going to get revenge on some popular girls" was legit. sad sack boyfriend thoroughly zung hannah in that exchange with the, "go tweet that" response, too.

Jorma Taccone = "When I fuck you..." guy = Lonely Island member

he looked like Evil Jimmy Fallon

oh, shortpants

should have made him a #menswear blogger

I guess he could be normal height, no idea how tall the actress is

irl lolz at the whole fite w/the gay ex boyfriend

I was really on the fence with this show, but this last episode won me over. I do, however, still think Hannah's fuckbuddy is the most repellent human being ever.

NB: i may be over-estimating that ever so slightly, but he is so aggravatingly awful.

fell like hannahs gross bf character has been fleshed out to hang a bunch of doofieness on the monstrous frame which in a huge relief tbqh

i'm gonna have the last word here--
YOUR DAD IS GAY