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ah damn. looks GREAT. wanted to be all high and mighty about this, but i can't. photography, cinematography, costumes and production design look amazing. excellent trailer.

re bane's mask: i love how it looks like two sets of knuckles trying to pry his jaws apart, real tense and disturbing.

this despite the fact that i didn't much care for either of nolan's previous batman movies

Catwoman says, "You've given these people everything", and Batman answers "Not everything" = another hint that he will die in this movie? (I.e. he hasn't yet given his life for them.)

bane's mask looks like goatse

Yeah that was the really obvious, heavy-handed implication, Tuomas.

ha that "not everything, not yet" had me wondering if Bale had de-muppeted the Bat, but "it's not a car" corrected that impression.

Would like if Batman ended up in the wheelchair due to lifting heavy books using a poor technique.

Alfred desperately warning him in advance but it's too late.

I know it's been said already, but the way the two masks are related to each other is just wow, imo. (the mf'ing batman has everything but his mouth covered, while bad guy dude's the diametrically opposite mirror other way round like)

― StanM, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:18 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

the big secret about cotillard's character is that she's a new villain called "hear no evil" that wears extravagantly designed goth earmuffs

I think you're thinking of Catwoman

I'm not a big fan of the Bane look, it's too Hannibal Lecter for my taste. Just another example of Nolan trying to make Batman overtly serious, I guess.

I know comic book costumes are hard to transfer to live action, but I wish they would've used some kind of a variation of Bane's current costume in the comics, it's pretty awesome:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/54403/1703271-ss3.jpg

Unlike most super dudes, Bane actually has an in-story explanation for those ridiculous muscles, so I think it's fitting he wears a rather flamboyant top to show them off.

Tuomas i don't think you can act surprised at this late date that Nolan is staying the course with this franchise's aesthetic. just take a deep breath, try not to make the same point 200 billion times on this thread over the next six months, and wait patiently for McG to be announced as the director of the next Batman movie.

That trailer definitely implies the end is nigh for Batman. Wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of passing of the baton -BAT-on - though.

I wonder why villains generally only attack this one city. In these comic book universes, is there, like, a supervillain who ever pummels, say, the entire state of Iowa into submission? Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

Alfred desperately warning him in advance but it's too late.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda)

too late indeed

dammit canks

Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

Every morning, man. Every morning.

I wonder why villains generally only attack this one city. In these comic book universes, is there, like, a supervillain who ever pummels, say, the entire state of Iowa into submission? Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

They recently kinda tried to address this in Marvel comics by making every US state have its own superteam. But yeah, usually they just ignore the whole question, and with Marvel it's actually worse than with DC - most major DC heroes (Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Arrow, etc) live in separate fictional cities, whereas with Marvel 80% of the heroes live in NYC.

I do appreciate the scope of Nolan's Batman stories, though. Gotham as an island, both figuratively and literally, with the rest of the world only existing when it makes sense for the story. I never read it, but wasn't there a late 90s/early 00s story -- No Man's Land, maybe -- where the national government basically said they were throwing up their hands and giving up on Gotham? The same sort of thing seems to be happening here -- the entire city under siege, the bridges being destroyed, Batman in exile.

As opposed to villains who have some sort of grand scheme but mostly seem interested in screwing with Batman/Bruce Wayne, Nolan's trilogy started with a villain who wanted to basically level the place and start over. So you have an external siege on the city with Batman being triumphant, an internal siege on the city from a villain who acts as a force of nature and Harvey Dent triumphant (according to public perception), and finally the external siege that has the weakness of the second part's lie to work off of.

i think it's just pointless to wonder whether all the action IS in the city the story takes place in, like if they made some allusion to "well, Metropolis has its own problems right now!" that would just be a stupid fan service thing. besides, Gotham is a crime-ridden hellhole, asking why different villains are making trouble there and not elsewhere is like asking why Al Capone didn't do his business out in the countryside.

They recently kinda tried to address this in Marvel comics by making every US state have its own superteam.

stupidest thing i ever heard

haha you are a supreme federalist even in comic book matters

can't wait for that crisis in grand forks crossover storyline

Hey, Great Lakes Avengers brought us Squirrel Girl, so just focus on the upside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_State_Initiative

(Fifty State Initiative actually turned out to be of some use during the "Secret Invasion" Skrull storyline, since the already-placed state teams were largely uncompromised.)

tbf Marvel mocked their own biases pretty well with the Great Lakes Avengers
lol xp

have they gone back and re-looped Bane? sure sounds way clearer now thankfully. although almost pisstakingly *too* much louder.

Delaware The Women Warriors Avengers: The Initiative #26 Asp, Black Mamba, Diamondback, Quicksand, Skein

did joe biden write this

"Squirrel Girl carries a utility belt comprising multiple pouches that contain nuts to give as snacks to her squirrel friends. These are known, to much comedic effect, as her "nut sacks".

Please be in the next Batman movie series, Squirrel Girl.

i never actually saw the earlier trailer/prologue things that spurred all the outcy about Bane's voice so the first time i heard it was in this new trailer and i instantly thought "wow that sounds wrong, they must've overcorrected in response to the complaints"

sounds great to me

Yeah the voice has definitely been heavily cleared up.

GLI member Monkey Joe: Joined the team along with Squirrel Girl, but was killed by Leather Boy in a fit of jealousy.

oops, GLA

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Sqlgrl1.jpg

less Marvel more Batman, guys

So this Bane guy seems not-too-cheery, huh?

Whenever I see a drawing or clip of him I think of the bad guy from "The Road Warrior."

lord goatass

http://mimg.ugo.com/201009/59382/cuts/mad-max-2-road-warrior_288x288.jpg

hate bane. such a boring villain. glad that nolan didn't feel constrained by his appearance in the comics.

he could've been constrained by a flamboyant top to show off those muscles, though, eh? /tuomas

I think the idea has some merit, but actual comic stories with the dude are not that interesting

constrained by a flamboyant top

Unlike most super dudes, Bane actually has an in-story explanation for those ridiculous muscles, so I think it's fitting he wears a rather flamboyant top to show them off.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:10 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

the only super-dude whose muscles make no sense to me is skeletor. why's a walking skeleton got to be jacked? preposterous.

the thing about bane is he was created for a specific storyline, and nobody could really figure out what to do with him after that story was finished - so as a regular of bman's 'rogue's gallery' hes not so great, but for a one-off story (like a movie) he could be really effective

http://www.denofgeek.com/comics/746701/bane_the_man_who_broke_batman.html

Never forget:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw3tmqrIIV1r7gxb3o7_500.jpg

so he's genius + psychotic + super-roids? the shots of him in the trailer show him flanked by soldiers (as guards?), i wonder if there will be a 'military experiment' angle to him

i'm p curious as to what sort of origin this version of catwoman gets to have, if any

it'd be funny if she was just an eccentric stripper