stephen king c/d?

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The ending of Needful Things put me off Stephen King for almost 2 decades. I didn't even give him a second chance (excepting for Wizard and Glass and On Writing, both Christmas presents as Needful Things had been). I had loved everything else he'd written up until that point and I don't know, there's some ridiculous shit in his early catalog, but something about the guy turning into a goblin and driving away in a car just put me over the edge.

What should I turn to next from his 1990s-2000s output?

frogsclovetofu (beachville), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't read Rose Madder but I have a hard time believing it's worse than Gerald's Game, which was so bad that I have refused to pick up a Stephen King book ever since

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

lol

frogsclovetofu (beachville), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

Of that trilogy, Dolores Claiborne >>> Gerald's Game >>>>>>>>>> Rose Madder.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

Full Dark, No Stars, btw, is amazing. It feels like the work of a much younger King.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

i will rep for insomnia and hearts in atlantis, beat that.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

I remember liking Hearts In Atlantis, though i've never read any Dark Tower books so all that stuff was kind of annoying

Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

oh shit you came hardcore I am not prepared to deal with this

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

a highly selective stephen king poll

frogsclovetofu (beachville), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Don't think I've read anything post Green Mile (which I liked at the time but now am pretty sure is total irredeemable hokum).

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

claiborne- steven, you've let me down

Geralds's game- steven, you've let the school down

Rose madder- Steven, put the fucking pen down

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

claiborne- steven, you've let me down

gtfo

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

Claiborne is top 10 King easily.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

I like The Green Mile for the devastatingly nihilistic ending - "Won't God just please let me die already?"

xp yes, it is

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

i think yr letting kathy bates intidate ye

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes being a challops is all a woman has to hold on to.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

I was interested in the idea of The Green Mile as a serial novel but when I found out that it explicitly had a literal magic negro in it, I figured that my decision to avoid/abandon King post-Gerald's Game was a wise one

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

full disclosure i was just riffing off phils list of the three there i liked claiborne. In fact, he hasn't used half enough > tbh

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

FWIW the magic negro straight up basically kills one guy and drives another one permanently insane.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

In the movie those two people were Sam Rockwell and that weirdo from LOST who married that 16 year old girl last year.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

aw cmon dan it worked for the shining

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

There is also a mouse that does circus tricks so really there's something for everyone in The Green Mile.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I know what happens; it's still kind of "what the hell" that this celebrated story is basically a well-known racially-questionable literary device turned into a plot engine

aw cmon dan it worked for the shining

haha

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

Green Mile was pretty shitty. A lot of '90s King put me off King for a while, and I don't think I've read anything he's done since.

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

Full Dark, No Stars, btw, is amazing. It feels like the work of a much younger King.

Agreed, this was great. I feel like King almost always does better work on short stories/novellas than he does with the longer form stuff though.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

that's almost a given i think!

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

explicitly had a literal magic negro in it

I was genuinely surprised at how uncritically this was embraced. Not surprised that King created this character.

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

I got off the bus around Needful Things and didn't really get back on until Duma Key ... since then I've gone back a bit and found some books in between that I enjoyed. He's always been inconsistent and willing to publish some awful crap, but he's been on a good roll the last few years.

Brad C., Monday, 30 April 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

[xp] you're talking about a critical engine that gave "The Legend of Bagger Vance" mixed reviews so I'm not sure where your surprise is coming from

I mean, here's a quote from Ebert about "Bagger Vance":

It handles a sports movie the way Billie Holiday handled a trashy song, by finding the love and pain beneath the story.

and this is from someone writing in Kalamazoo and is hilarious:

Robert Redford's beguiling drama reminds us even the most hopeless causes can be turned around through the power of positive thinking and perserverance, if we're willing to embrace the possibility of success instead of the probability of failure.

obviously questioning the concept of the magic negro archetype is not the at the forefront of the filters of the people reviewing these movies

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

Never watched bagger vance 'cause it was supposed to be some inspirational movie about golf.

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

wikipedia says the term/concept didn't enter the mainstream until spike lee used it to describe bagger vance and the green mile.

So would any of you recommend 11.22.63? I was iffy on reading it because King can be so hit or miss and time travel always has the potential to be terrible, but I've been hearing some good things about it.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

thread revive was two or three saying it's good

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

100% recommended

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

I gave up on the Dark Towers after Wolves of the Calla, should i bother with the final 2? And can i skip Song of Susannah... it sounds lame.

sofatruck, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Those last two get SUPER SUPER meta, like enough to make you suspect King was back on coke at the time, but I think they're worth it. They contain two of the most heartbreaking scenes I've ever read, if nothing else.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

sigh. i'm going to read it

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

don't

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

I can quit dark tower any time

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, I enjoyed them a ton. Also: crying. lots of crying.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

that vulture article is some garbage

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 07:50 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Huh: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stephen-kings-be-adapted-by-334899

Warner Bros’ adaptation of the classic Stephen King novel It has a director and writer.

Cary Fukunaga, the hot-shot filmmaker behind last year’s adaptation of Jane Eyre, is boarding the project as director and will co-write the script with Chase Palmer, who previously adapted Frank Herbert’s Dune for Paramount.

. . . A best-selling book when it was published in1986, It, like The Stand, is one of King’s biggest and most dense tomes, and the plan is for Fukunaga and Palmer to adapt the work into two films.

"who previously adapted Frank Herbert’s Dune for Paramount" = "do not get your hopes up, that was nearly 30 years ago and also terrible"

Also, creepy paedo gangbang scene this time or I want my money back.

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

I imagine they're talking about the new Dune adaptation

Number None, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

According to his imdb, it was

(2010) Unused screenplay for a new adaptation of Frank Herbert's novel Dune, for director Pierre Morel and Paramount Pictures.

Everything else he's been involved with has been short film.

how's life, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

There's a NEW Dune adaptation? Wait, you mean that one for Syfy a few years back?

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://vimeo.com/8898869

how's life, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

it seems to have been shelved but there was a new movie on the cards for a while

Number None, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

11/22/63 - worth reading?

calstars, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link


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