Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

why?

Do you have something to back that up?
'60s Batman TV show is one of my favorite things ever.
I am fine with a world where gravel-voice nipples Batman wiretaps and Adam West does the Batdance. They can coexist peacefully. I like them both.

^^

It's like having an Old Testament and a New Testament God. No one's criticized The Bible for that, I'm pretty sure.

idk, the jews don't have much truck with the latter

I remember hearing the 60s Batman wasn't on DVD because they don't own the rights to the tv show Batmobile and Warner Bros have to pay the guy through the teeth for it. They can syndicate it without a new contract, but home video is a different ball of wax.

yeah i mean, it hasn't been on home video or dvd or anything ever, for decades. whether DC has done that in part out of some misguided attempt to stop it from 'hurting' the movie franchises or not, can't really lay blame for that at nolan's feet.

Yeah im basing that off something i read on Wikipedia years ago.

Still, i think that 60s show gets the short end of the stick. It's pretty awesome.

if nolan was remotely the reason the '60s Batman isn't on DVD, that would be some serious "life imitates Simpsons episode" shit

"go get 'em, scouts!"

I remember hearing the 60s Batman wasn't on DVD because they don't own the rights to the tv show Batmobile and Warner Bros have to pay the guy through the teeth for it. They can syndicate it without a new contract, but home video is a different ball of wax.

AFAIK this is pretty much the truth. The producers of the show made a contract and got paid for TV syndication, which is why Batman can still be shown on TV as reruns, but for it to be released on video would require a separate contract and payment (since for obvious reasons the original contact doesn't cover anything beyond TV runs), and for whatever reason Warner/DC hasn't managed to negotiate one.

Anyway, I haven't been paying much attention to the news regarding this movie, but noticed IMDb now says Liam Neeson will appear in it as Ra's Al Ghul (presumably in flashbacks?) and some kid is playing "young Talia Al Ghul". So that pretty much confirms Marion Cotillard is Talia, right?

And if the movie is gonna deal with the Al Ghul legacy, I doubt they'll have much space to include the Knightfall stuff, Bane will probably just be an henchman of Talia's. Though it would be funny if the movie ended with Bruce Wayne getting his back broken and the Batman mantle being passed to AZRAEL, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Actually, it would be kinda fitting, as Azrael was originally supposed to be a critique of the idea of a grim & gritty 90s Batman, but the Nolan movies seemed to have embraced that idea fully.

want to see a comic serious book film tbh

― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh no you don't!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJicfFcO74E

wtf I can't believe they adapted THAT book

the neanderthal incest novel

"serious comic book film" = american splendor...?

nobody from big bang theory is in the dark knight rises dude

― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:45 (15 hours ago) Permalink

Two Broke Bats

hough it would be funny if the movie ended with Bruce Wayne getting his back broken and the Batman mantle being passed to AZRAEL, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

I would love if this meant JGL is playing a cartoon cat henchman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8evyE9TuYk#!

yikes

Kaboom, etc.

Nice to see that bottle brush treatment on Bane's throat nodes did the trick.

I was going to say the lack of Cotillard meant some bits were still under wraps, but she's in there toward the end

whoo, that was pretty damn cool. cannot wait for this movie.

0:12 : wheelchair reversing

I know it's been said already, but the way the two masks are related to each other is just wow, imo. (the mf'ing batman has everything but his mouth covered, while bad guy dude's the diametrically opposite mirror other way round like)

ah damn. looks GREAT. wanted to be all high and mighty about this, but i can't. photography, cinematography, costumes and production design look amazing. excellent trailer.

re bane's mask: i love how it looks like two sets of knuckles trying to pry his jaws apart, real tense and disturbing.

this despite the fact that i didn't much care for either of nolan's previous batman movies

Catwoman says, "You've given these people everything", and Batman answers "Not everything" = another hint that he will die in this movie? (I.e. he hasn't yet given his life for them.)

bane's mask looks like goatse

Yeah that was the really obvious, heavy-handed implication, Tuomas.

ha that "not everything, not yet" had me wondering if Bale had de-muppeted the Bat, but "it's not a car" corrected that impression.

Would like if Batman ended up in the wheelchair due to lifting heavy books using a poor technique.

Alfred desperately warning him in advance but it's too late.

I know it's been said already, but the way the two masks are related to each other is just wow, imo. (the mf'ing batman has everything but his mouth covered, while bad guy dude's the diametrically opposite mirror other way round like)

― StanM, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:18 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

the big secret about cotillard's character is that she's a new villain called "hear no evil" that wears extravagantly designed goth earmuffs

I think you're thinking of Catwoman

I'm not a big fan of the Bane look, it's too Hannibal Lecter for my taste. Just another example of Nolan trying to make Batman overtly serious, I guess.

I know comic book costumes are hard to transfer to live action, but I wish they would've used some kind of a variation of Bane's current costume in the comics, it's pretty awesome:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/54403/1703271-ss3.jpg

Unlike most super dudes, Bane actually has an in-story explanation for those ridiculous muscles, so I think it's fitting he wears a rather flamboyant top to show them off.

Tuomas i don't think you can act surprised at this late date that Nolan is staying the course with this franchise's aesthetic. just take a deep breath, try not to make the same point 200 billion times on this thread over the next six months, and wait patiently for McG to be announced as the director of the next Batman movie.

That trailer definitely implies the end is nigh for Batman. Wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of passing of the baton -BAT-on - though.

I wonder why villains generally only attack this one city. In these comic book universes, is there, like, a supervillain who ever pummels, say, the entire state of Iowa into submission? Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

Alfred desperately warning him in advance but it's too late.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda)

too late indeed

dammit canks

Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

Every morning, man. Every morning.

I wonder why villains generally only attack this one city. In these comic book universes, is there, like, a supervillain who ever pummels, say, the entire state of Iowa into submission? Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

They recently kinda tried to address this in Marvel comics by making every US state have its own superteam. But yeah, usually they just ignore the whole question, and with Marvel it's actually worse than with DC - most major DC heroes (Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Arrow, etc) live in separate fictional cities, whereas with Marvel 80% of the heroes live in NYC.

I do appreciate the scope of Nolan's Batman stories, though. Gotham as an island, both figuratively and literally, with the rest of the world only existing when it makes sense for the story. I never read it, but wasn't there a late 90s/early 00s story -- No Man's Land, maybe -- where the national government basically said they were throwing up their hands and giving up on Gotham? The same sort of thing seems to be happening here -- the entire city under siege, the bridges being destroyed, Batman in exile.

As opposed to villains who have some sort of grand scheme but mostly seem interested in screwing with Batman/Bruce Wayne, Nolan's trilogy started with a villain who wanted to basically level the place and start over. So you have an external siege on the city with Batman being triumphant, an internal siege on the city from a villain who acts as a force of nature and Harvey Dent triumphant (according to public perception), and finally the external siege that has the weakness of the second part's lie to work off of.

i think it's just pointless to wonder whether all the action IS in the city the story takes place in, like if they made some allusion to "well, Metropolis has its own problems right now!" that would just be a stupid fan service thing. besides, Gotham is a crime-ridden hellhole, asking why different villains are making trouble there and not elsewhere is like asking why Al Capone didn't do his business out in the countryside.

They recently kinda tried to address this in Marvel comics by making every US state have its own superteam.

stupidest thing i ever heard

haha you are a supreme federalist even in comic book matters

can't wait for that crisis in grand forks crossover storyline

Hey, Great Lakes Avengers brought us Squirrel Girl, so just focus on the upside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_State_Initiative