Aren't they already talking about a reboot anyway? Something like how this sees off the Nolan take and then they can go a different direction next time. In fact, yeah, just dug this up:
http://collider.com/batman-reboot-warner-bros-christopher-nolan-producer/83025/
A year old and the initial date of 2013 has now been shot down but at the time:
Christopher Nolan has publicly stated that The Dark Knight Rises will be his final Batman film, and Warner Bros. is already looking ahead to the future of the franchise. As we reported last night, the studio is currently planning a Justice League movie for 2013 and Warner Bros. president Jeff Robinov tells Hero Complex that scripts are being written for Flash and Wonder Woman (the Wonder Woman project would exist separately from the upcoming NBC show). But most intriguing is what the studio plans to do with its marquee superhero, Batman:“We have the third Batman, but then we’ll have to reinvent Batman…” says Robinov. “Chris Nolan and [producing partner and wife] Emma Thomas will be producing it, so it will be a conversation with them about what the next phase is.”
“We have the third Batman, but then we’ll have to reinvent Batman…” says Robinov. “Chris Nolan and [producing partner and wife] Emma Thomas will be producing it, so it will be a conversation with them about what the next phase is.”
Two to one says something like this plays out. Nolan could kill off Bale-as-Batman easily and then any number of other possibilities goes forward -- there have already been rumors about Joseph Gordon Levitt's character in this new one assuming the mantle or whatever -- or even more likely they could take the Spider-Man approach and go 'fuck it' and just restart.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
i just can imagine an exec saying "i think it was mistake to try and make a blockbuster where they killed batman" more than I can imagine ordinary people saying "my favorite batman movie is the one where batman dies". The JGL thing seems more likely, but that also reminds me of when they realized killing Hooch at the end of turner & hooch was a bummer even if they showed a puppy at the end.
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
maybe they just crack Christian's back and but still have him around to give JGL the go-ahead
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
that really was a bummer xpost
― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
armie hammer was gonna play batman in george miller's justice league movie a couple years ago, but they never started filming. they got pretty far into pre production though
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
could the millions of fans who flocked to see heath ledger's final performance really be turned off by the morbid buzzkill of the death of a fictional character, though?
millions of people flocked to see the kick-ass batman movie that also had a great performance by an actor who tragically died after it was finished. i'm pretty sure you can see the distinction to be made between that and a superhero movie where the hero fails.
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
though if he does die, that does mean kiddie book spin-offs will be even more impressive
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/26662097.html
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
Hahahah I still love that.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
― da croupier, Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Fl
just like i'm sure you can see the difference between turner & hooch and the darkest big screen adaptation of the darkest of the big comic book heroes
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
in the sense that both need to play in the sticks, not really
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
don't get me wrong, this is the company that brought back Superman as a negligent babydaddy. It's possible they're doing something this dumb cuz a respected director said it was a good idea.
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno is batman dying inherently "dumb"? i guess i just don't see the problem. but let's just skip ahead to the part where we make a bet about whether bruce wayne kicks it and one of us paypals the other $20 on opening weekend.
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
oh i refuse to believe batman dying could be kept a secret till opening weekend
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, it's amazing we haven't seen a leak yet, but still
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
batman dying isnt the same as batman 'failing' it all depends on how its played - if the movie ended with him being murdered with a metal pipe and then the bad guy is like 'haha, owned', fade to black, audiences would be pissed - but the 'noble sacrifice in name of a greater good' often plays pretty well with mainstream audiences
of course i dont think theres a chance in hell that batbro bites it in this
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
Give it back to Tim Burton
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but it sounds better to say 'opening weekend' than 'when harry knowles is totally sure what he's holding in his hands is the actual screenplay' or w/e. it almost seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that the franchise that made a billion dollars off being the gritty realistic/pessimistic answer to other comic book movies could conclude by killing off the hero. not that i'm 100% confident they WILL do that, but it seems like a pretty obvious place to go.
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing burton should be given is a boxing about the ears
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
it almost seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that the franchise that made a billion dollars off being the gritty realistic/pessimistic answer to other comic book movies could conclude by killing off the hero.
no, there is a logic to it. it's just pretty bold move for a franchise that also makes its billion off toys, and a move that would easily seem idiotic in hindsight.
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
it's less bold when you consider that, nolan & bale declaring in advance that they're done with the franchise, it was going to be rebooted either way...
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
my money is that marvel's gonna send them all bouquets
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
will they stop making batman toys if batman dies? or only make 'dead batman' toys?
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
It's in the title, dudes. Batman dies and then all of Gotham watches his ghost rise into heaven.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
what if BATMAN dies..
......but BRUCE WAYNE lives
― max, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
food for thought
Two Face turns out to still be alive, movie ends with him deciding whether or not to spare Batman's voice by flipping a coin. the coin lands on a tabletop and just keeps spinning, cut to credits. SCHRODINGER'S BAT!
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
er Batman's life
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
maybe they kill him off but there's a "Batman will be rebooted in...THAT DARN BAT" before the credits
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
3rd Bat From The Sun
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
I also like the "Bruce Wayne listens to recording of his Batman voice, gets seriously embarrassed, retires" possibility
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
tails it is... tonight harvey dent fucks men!
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
i can definitely see batman breaking his back and mentoring JGL in a reboot
i just really wish the new spiderman would flop bc 'reboot' is becoming the new 'sequel'
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
the worst possible reboot i can imagine is Christian Bale cameos as a Professor X figure
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
any time ive seen the new spidey trailer in a theater, the audience reaction is incredibly apathetic/bored. they kinda screwed up on that one
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
i like how the poster says THE UNTOLD STORY, totally cornering the market of people who always wanted to know spidey's backstory but don't remember it from the first moive.
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
weell they are doing all that lame crap with his parents
― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
Has there ever been a successful franchise where the hero dies?
Alien. Clones don't count.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
Alien 3 was a total commercial disappointment, though
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:15 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:16 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Big Bat Theory"
― PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
If i hear that this movie will kill him off, seriously I won't see it and I'll blank it completely off my radar. That should never happen.
Unless the film is set further in time, just before Batman decides to retire and move down to Florida.
― PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
they kill off comic book characters all the time you know (though tbf it took them a long time to do it with Batman)
― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
Batman dying feels like the beginning of a story though, especially if they set up JGL as the successor. That's not "finishing" the story like they say they want.
But on the other hand, batman breaking his back being temporarily replaced and then coming back is a lot of narrative for one popcorn movie.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah isn't that the whole plot behind the Bane stories in the comics? I just remember that front cover where it was literally him breaking Batman's back over his knees.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8a/Bane_breaks_Batman.png/175px-Bane_breaks_Batman.png
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
Looks like that should be some sort of gabber single cover from 1994 Amsterdam.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
― PSOD (Ste), Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:42 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
well, Rises does apparently take place 8 years after the story of the last movie.
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
― PSOD (Ste), Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:40 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
nobody from big bang theory is in the dark knight rises dude
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
christian bale in batman by christopher nolan = "serious comic book film"
jgl in barman = popcorn flick for teens, with jgl cooing to interviewers about how "cool" it'll be ala the manchild that he is.
― phantompenguin, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
they got howard to play king tut
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 30 April 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link