xp they really did use that line in L&O many times. i'm sure everyone who played a cop used it at least once, especially anyone slotted into the "younger cop" role
― Nhex, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
didn't Herc or Carver use it on The Wire before or am i misremembering? but ya, it's a pretty common cop show trope.
― Roz, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
ya, i seem to remember it as a Wire line.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
Matt and s. clover OTM. If anything, this seemed like less of a leap to me than e.g. the chicken finger Mafia episode. Prof Kane told Annie she needed to provide evidence to back up her hypothesis, Shirley said she watched a lot of crime shows, Troy and Abed did their thing. People even kept reminding them that they weren't cops and that the classroom wasn't a courtroom.
I also thought that this episode did show (further) development in Jeff's character: where previously, he would have BSed his way to winning and nailing Todd, now he actually wanted to find justice and truth, if only to preserve Annie. (You could even compare this to the s1 episode where he pleaded Britta's insanity to get her out of a penalty for cheating on a test.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
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― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
Dudes, Michael Ironside!
Also, something Dan said twitched something in my head, and whilst searching I stumbled upon this:
http://www.umberhulk.com/
wtf. Someone bought a domain name and made a site just to be a character card of a d&d monster.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
The jump to the L&O format didn't bother me at all, as the writers clearly like to do genre exercises. Abed & Troy immediately slotting into the roles of cops b/v it was fun reminds me a lot of the detective/film noir ep of the Venture Brothers, where everyone around Hank was clearly relishing helping him play in this genre universe.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
Also, yeah, I like it when they take established characters & demonstrate how they fit into the trappings & tropes of some pop cultural flavor they'd like to dabble in.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
This was kind of on the same tip as the Tarantino episode, except it was based on source material I care about.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol, I'd forgotten that was also the Dinner With Andre episode. I need to go back and watch the prev seasons.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
Btw, what's up with some of the recent episode titles? WTF is "lupine urology" a reference to? And why was the 1984 episode "Digital Exploration of Interior Design"? Because Pierce spied on Britta and Subway when they were in the blanket fort (using analogue gear!)?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
"lupine urology" = "Wolf, Dick"
― O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
OK, I didn't know who that was. Looked it up now. That's v clever then.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
I assume "Digital Exploration" is a heavy petting joke crossed with an allusion to the 1984 parody running through the Subway plot
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
those are both actually kinda funny
― thomp, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
my best guess for 'lupine urology' was the first episode of 'due south' but that did seem highly improbable
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― Johnny Fever, Monday, April 30, 2012 12:38 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
haha i was gonna say, it wasn't really 'the Tarantino episode' in practically any way besides the characters being dressed as Pulp Fiction characters
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/467127_350844594976629_279724112088678_947565_1286493043_o.jpg
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
Also:
http://tvline.com/2012/04/27/community-season-3-finale-may-17-90-minutes/
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
Well this is Changsteresting….
smdh
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
as someone who has hatewatched about 800 episodes of L&O, omg
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
my least favorite thing about it is the writers' apparent inability to end an ep without a sudden homicide/suicide, so the starburns thing was amazing
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
also how the hell was belzer not in this?
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
Are there particular L&O episodes/seasons that are good to start with?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:13 (twelve years ago) link
The Jerry Orbach years, I would assume
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
Orbach/(Noth/Bratt)/Waterston/Hennessey was my favourite cast.
― GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
No Hargitay, no cred.
― nickn, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMB4xRW58Q4
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
There's a buncha animated gifs out there for this one, so here's a couple
http://i45.tinypic.com/2vker1t.gif
http://i.imgur.com/BfsYa.gif
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
I agree that from the original series, Orbach/(Noth/Bratt)/Hennessey/Waterston was the high point
for SVU, I think there's something to be said (aka I luv Mariska Hargity) for every season but the early ones when they were still shuffling the ensemble are incredible
CI is most entertaining when it's the D'Onofrio Crazypants Show
TBJ was super boring
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
Can you just jump in and watch L&O episodes or do you need to start from the beginning for continuity?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
i can't imagine Law & Order: The Blow Job being boring but i never saw it
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
For regular L&O you can jump in at any point -- there's not much serialization or focus on the characters lives outside of the cases.
SVU is a whole 'nother mess that borders on Days of Our Lives.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link
Most of the continuity/character progression is in the background aside from the two or three random episodes where a BIG PERSONAL REVELATION happens that makes a character EMOTE for your viewing pleasure; I got into the show mostly through watching random episodes and from being transfixed by Mariska Hargitay on SVU. You can totally watch SVU out of order and enjoy the hell out of it, but watching it in order is like "omg you've unlocked the secret level and can now shoot fireballs from yr eyes, ENJOY"
All the flavors of L&O have similar story rhythms; the main differences between them are:
OG: murders galoreSVU: mostly sex crimes that often involve someone's deathCI: mostly murders, but a good chunk of the episode is told from the criminal's point of view and the payoff of the story is seeing how Crazypants D'Onofrio sticks his crazy into the perp's brain and makes them crackTBJ: I never watched more than 5 minutes of this because it was so boring but I think it was all trial shit (because Trial By Jury, see? it's FASCINATING watching people sit in a juror's box for an hour! gtfo imo, if you're gonna do that you better give me Cop Rock-esque ensemble numbers otherwise I'm changing the channel)
also lol sd
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
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Mmm, I dunno, I've sat in on a number of those SVU marathons and didn't feel like I was missing anything by not being a regular viewer. It's been a few years, mind.
― Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i have to say it's kind of hilarious for someone who's never seen L&O to ask about 'continuity' since L&O is kind of the classic 'drop in and watch a marathon of non-sequential episodes' procedural show
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
You probably can watch SVU out of order, but I get so tired of hearing about Olivia's messed up childhood/family, her attempted rape, etc. and then Stabler's family was the most annoying hellspawn and any episode that centered on them drove me crazy.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
I think that's the genius of L&O. There was always this huge ball of backstory/continuity lurking in the background, but it was always subservient to whatever case was going on that week. When characters' personal lives did get pulled it, it was usually because of some aspect of the case (Ice T's son's involvement with the gay-bashing case on SVU, for example) or because something was going on that impacted their ability to work (Van Buren's cancer arc on OG comes to mind)
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
although yeah, Stabler's family was the worst
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:46 (twelve years ago) link
I really loved that in original L&O they would just throw out continuity nods every so often, but almost always like a 1 minute scene every 5 episodes that might pay off like 3 years later, in another 1 minute scene at the very end of an episode (see: everything involving Brisco). But yeah, totally ignorable
― Nhex, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
liked this ep more than i expected (i'm p tired of the 'high-concept' stuff in general), i think precisely because characterization/"moving things forward" wasn't a big consideration here. also it's a funny way to get rid of starburns.
― madame boo berry (donna rouge), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not even a big l&o guy either
― madame boo berry (donna rouge), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
i have never consciously chosen to watch an episode of any L&O series in my entire life but i have still ambivalently marinated in that franchise enough over the past 20 years that i got/appreciated pretty much every gag
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
^^yeah, ditto
― catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like a robot when i say stuff like i really don't care about character development/relationships in tv shows, just jokes, but i think really it's just that what's considered character development/relationships in tv/movies is so ridiculously facile and unrealistic 99 percent of the time so i'd rather just do without it completely.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
i hope starburns is actually really dead, not that i dislike the character but it would make that joke even funnier in perpetuity if he just, like, was dead now
― flopson, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Dino wanted off of the show, so I think he is really dead.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
it seems like they're committed to it, notwithstanding flashbacks or a ghost plotline or something, although yeah hopefully they won't do anything like that and he's just gone for good
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
he'll always live on in our hearts... and the Dreamatorium
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link