Death Grips

also he doesn't mention ggd

to his credit

This is growing on me

Through I still like ex military better

Though I think it's funny ppl are ganging up on mattdc for not liking this....tbh this new one didn't grab me at first and I think the more subtle textures and lower key vibe (relatively speaking) do show up his shortcomings as an mc

There's two things that are pretty constant in hip hop that Death Grips lacks. One, even with freaky stuff like Odd Future or Ghetto Boys, there's an implied community, or at least a crew that's got your back. Two, there's a generally a steady BPM. Waka Floka sorta just yells too, but it's steady. Ex Military fits in on http://grindcorekaraoke.com/ 'cause a lot of that stuff is lone kids with sequencers building up a barrage that sounds like a full band changing tempo ever few seconds. Death Grips is like rapping without hip hop. Maybe it's NuMetal!

I didn't think I was being particularly ganged up on (I've been at least attempting to enjoy it and do enjoy bits of it). But the idea that it's difficult to find the right way to listen to it is just weird, as if it were fucking Schoenberg or something. I think it's pretty clear what's being attempted here, I'm just not sure it's very successful at it.

I dunno why ppl itt are doing stupid backflips about what to call this since there's like no short tradition of like Beatnigs, Death Comet Crew, Dalek, Techno Animal, Kill The Vultures, k-the-i???, Sensational, Hawd Gankstuh Rappuhs & half-the-Wordsound-roster dudes rapping or "rapping" over noise

xp - pretty sure the majority of schoenberg fans wldn't have much illuminating to offer either. there is no scale of difficulty which you can master and then unlock all music, there is no universal ear, or even a generalist one. 'clunky' & 'basic' are better deployed as compliments than thrown pejoratively.

more or less agree w/ upper mississippi about the record: enjoy the new things on the album & its still growing on me but not yet quite as fond of it as ex-mil & i'm looking fwd to the follow up more

feel like their live act/audience is revealing, it's like a hardcore show.

lol @ that list of artists in whineys post

i know it makes this sound like the least appealing thing ever

where's divine styler btw

i am filing this under "atari teenage riot" in my head

The Dälek guys should probably be hella (lol) pissed that this is getting as much attention as it is. Because as incredible as Death Grips is, those guys have been working harder and smarter at "quasi-industrial noise-rap" for a decade.

I don't even think they're getting a boost from the Hella connection (Hella was "hip" what, 10 years ago?). I think it's just the blogarchy "roll with the new" vibe. The last three Dälek records were just as good as anything Death Grips did and no one but Europeans and Isis fans are really riding for em in 2012

I have a lot more trouble getting through an entire Dalek album than a Death Grips one.

There is more to Zach Hill than just Hella, dude.

Yeah Pitchfork really was fucking with Team Sleep and his work with Les Claypool

Was it? I wouldn't know. The record he did with Mick Barr a few years back was pretty killer.

And youre talking to a HUGE zach hill fan! I'm just saying his role in other bands isn't what sold Death Grips!

Yeah I love that record!

Sold to whom?

http://www.frequencynews.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/lareidrapradar.jpg

what sold them was lots of static + mc ride lolling around like a a sleepwalking henry rollins & tweeting AYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYE

I dunno why ppl itt are doing stupid backflips about what to call this since there's like no short tradition of like Beatnigs, Death Comet Crew, Dalek, Techno Animal, Kill The Vultures, k-the-i???, Sensational, Hawd Gankstuh Rappuhs & half-the-Wordsound-roster dudes rapping or "rapping" over noise

yeah, but 'dudes rapping or "rapping" over noise' is a stupid thing to call it, so...

do love dalek & death comet crew. the former got a lot of hype & attention circa filthy tongues, but i have no idea why they fell off the map for so many people after that. definitely deserve more attention & credit than they generally get.

Death Grips is like rapping without hip hop. Maybe it's NuMetal!

i think it kind of is, or 90s-style rap metal. not such a bad thing.

I'm calling it "rap"

whiney's comment about how the freewheeling energy / no samples cleared vibe on ex-mil trumps this otm
not that this is bad at all and i am going to JUMP THE FUCK AROUND to i seen footage when they play it

Whiney you forgot New Kingdom

There's two things that are pretty constant in hip hop that Death Grips lacks. One, even with freaky stuff like Odd Future or Ghetto Boys, there's an implied community, or at least a crew that's got your back. Two, there's a generally a steady BPM. Waka Floka sorta just yells too, but it's steady. Ex Military fits in on http://grindcorekaraoke.com/ 'cause a lot of that stuff is lone kids with sequencers building up a barrage that sounds like a full band changing tempo ever few seconds. Death Grips is like rapping without hip hop. Maybe it's NuMetal!

why did no one call this out as being completely wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoJ37xCi3KQ

I mean, these guys basically built their entire career on stutter-stop polyrhythmic flow and they weren't the only ones, and nothing flow-wise on the Death Grips album is further out there or less arhythmic than anything happening on the Shabazz Palaces releases, which I don't think anyone would argue against fitting into hip-hop because the dude doing it used to be in Digable Planets

Was hoping someone would call it out! Just throwing it out there. But I guess my point is that DG breaks two things- being twice out of step is what makes it seem iffy.

Those two things are kind of arbitrary? I mean, you can make an argument about hip-hop acts presenting themselves within their music as parts of larger posses and the sense of community that context provides, but it ignores a bunch of stuff that had at least a national profile which was undeniably tied to hip-hop (not only alt/underground stuff like Urban Dance Squad, Dream Warriors and MC 900 Foot Jesus, but mk I Digable Planets).

Also, the rhythm thing just is completely wrong and makes zero sense. I really don't know what the people comparing dude's flow to PMT-era Tricky are actually listening to because it doesn't appear to be either Death Grips release.

(which btw, I'm listening to the first one after a weekend of mainlining Siouxsie and the Banshees instead of Depeche Mode and it's making a lot more sense now, lol)

also: ctrl-f "pet shop boys" yields no hits

shame on all of you

i guess maybe every single element of death grips has been done before or better or in a more avant way, but none of that takes away from the amount that they just RULE IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE

^ yah, quit needing to explain it and just enjoy it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MUGAxpI0Bc

i would erase everything that Death Grips has ever recorded to save the master tapes to "Ante Up"

oh well duh

i've been liking this more and more as i've listened more

thing it kinda reminds me of in a weird way is Von Sudenfed the Mark E Smith/Mouse on Mars thing

i really need to go out and get this in a store, just to support the idea of shit like this coming out on a major label

I will buy at the show and have every intention of taking a permanent sharpie to a white shirt and making a DEATH GRAPES tee to wear there

i'd been waiting for you to quietly mod the thread title to "Death Gripes"

man yesterday the first album just CLICKED for me

"Guillotine" is just.... YES

it goes

YUH

Just semi-committed to going to Hopscotch this year, before I noticed that they're playing the festival. YUH

definitely liking this more and more and it's good advice to stop worrying about how it compares the first one

front page of the guardian today, money money money

finally got a chance to listen through the new one, it's banging in a diff way than ex-military but their vibe def comes thru. plus I dig a cool sample as much as the next guy but it's nice to listen to them without getting "rumble" ruined for all time.

apparently they canceled all their tour dates? fuckers

waht