anyone who complains about too many can threads ain't a can fan!
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://testing.humboldtwholesale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Can-Fan.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
> because ilx does not have enough Can threads
I've long believed the large number of Can threads partly due to the similar-threads filter being ineffective for a band named "Can"
― Lee626, Friday, 27 April 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
serious question: was early can VU- descended, or was it indepedent parallel evolution?
(cuz generally ppl weren't VU influenced much prior to 72-3, and it impresses the fuck outta me if can got there first, this side of the atlantic)
― mark s, Monday, September 3, 2001 8:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've always assumed it was a real VU influence. I will tend to continue that assumption even were Can to claim otherwise.
― bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Holger:
What were Can's main influences from the world of rock, as opposed to classical and avant-garde?Everybody a little bit different. But mainly I would say the influence, for me, of the Beatles and Velvet Underground was most important. The Velvet Underground especially. They had something achieved which others didn't achieve. Even Jimi Hendrix didn't achieve that. One could have the opinion that this group is not able to play really properly right. They didn't get the right rhythm, they couldn't make a real tight rhythm. But the music was incredibly convincing. And this feeling made us encouraged, actually, to go on with rock music in general, instead of, let's say, making avant-garde academic music. Academic music was somehow finished by the audiences. Not by the musical idea itself. But we liked to do something without notation. We didn't want to read music off papers. We really tried to make instant compositions from the very beginning. This Can tradition actually achieved this very much when we played live.
Everybody a little bit different. But mainly I would say the influence, for me, of the Beatles and Velvet Underground was most important. The Velvet Underground especially. They had something achieved which others didn't achieve. Even Jimi Hendrix didn't achieve that. One could have the opinion that this group is not able to play really properly right. They didn't get the right rhythm, they couldn't make a real tight rhythm. But the music was incredibly convincing. And this feeling made us encouraged, actually, to go on with rock music in general, instead of, let's say, making avant-garde academic music. Academic music was somehow finished by the audiences. Not by the musical idea itself. But we liked to do something without notation. We didn't want to read music off papers. We really tried to make instant compositions from the very beginning. This Can tradition actually achieved this very much when we played live.
― Number None, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
NYCers— Malcolm Mooney is playing tonight at Santos
― prior, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
super psyched on this lost tapes set. anyone know how limited it is?
i was going to pre-order for $55 (w/ shipping...); but do i feel like saving 15 bucks and chance-ing it in a store?
― dronestreet, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
Pre-order it at any half-decent record shop and you'll be absolutely fine.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
$27 from Amazon7 from Amazon
― cwkiii, Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
oops
buncha can live footage, just put it on in the background and it sounds great
http://networkawesome.com/show/live-music-show-can-1970-1977/
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 6 September 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Curated by Markus FiedlerTotal Runtime: 1:24:50Live Music Show, 70s, cologne, czukay, experimental, germany, improv, jam, kraut, rock
Dead Lock (1970)Mother Sky (1970)Paperhouse (1972)Spoon (1972)Intermission: News Report from 1971 Bring Me Coffee Or Tea (1972)Vitamin C (1972)Sing Swan Song (1973)I'm Too Leise (1974)Vernal Equinox (1975)I Want More (1976)Don't Say No (1977)Dizzy Dizzy (1977)
bump
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is grrrrrreat
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
what's up with the juggler tho. was he in the band?
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
watching Irmin Schmidt play is so fun
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
A little Xmas ditty from Can.
http://youtu.be/iInAuoio-pQ
― nickn, Saturday, 29 December 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link
What, am I the only Can fan???
Malkmus does Can
― nickn, Saturday, 5 October 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
Can - The Lost Tapes
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 5 October 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
I know about that one, but this wasn't Lost Tapes related. I guess that's the default Can thread now.
― nickn, Saturday, 5 October 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link
think they're just pointing out that other can threads have seen action lately
― fit and working again, Saturday, 5 October 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link
Has this been posted before? Really interesting seeing what Holger Czukay was doing in Can when he stopped playing bass - perhaps debatable whether it works or not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZkex5jHvuI
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2013 10:01 (ten years ago) link
On the Can DVD unless I am much mistaken...
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 14 October 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link
Oh right, never seen that
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
Recently I was sitting at my desk at work grooving to the live version of Spoon and the dean saw me and asked what I was listening to. Logically I was thrilled anyone cared, so I told him and he was like "Cats?" and I said, "No, CAN." He asked me to email him a youtube, so I did.
A week later, he responded, "Interesting… not for casual listening, at least for me. Thanks, [name redacted]"
haha!!It's totally for casual listening!!
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
This has been my krautrock year of discovery, and I'm excited that Can has clicked for me in a big way. Not everything, mind you - I really don't ever need to hear "Aumgn" again. I made my own compilation as I find the longer versions utterly thrilling. I tried to mix it up but found that chronological order worked best:
1. Father Cannot Yell (Monster Movie)2. Yoo Doo Right (Monster Movie)3. Thief (Delay 1968)4. The Empress And The Ukraine Kind (Unlimited Edition) <--- the template for all early Fall songs!5. Mother Sky (Soundtracks)6. Paperhouse (Tago Mago)7. Mushroom (Tago Mago)8. Oh Yeah (Tago Mago)9. Halleluwah (Tago Mago)10. Pinch (Ege Bamyasi)11. Vitamin C (Ege Bamyasi)12. I'm So Green (Ege Bamyasi)13. Spoon (Ege Bamyasi)14. Turtles Have Short Legs (Radio Waves)15. Future Days (Future Days)16. Moonshake (Future Days)17. Bel Air (Future Days)18. Chain Reaction (Soon Over Babaluma)19. I Want More (Flow Motion)
That fills 2 CDs, which is how my primitive thinking works. There's a handful of songs that just missed the cut: A Spectacle, Bring Me Coffee Or Tea, Dizzy Dizzy, Little Star Of Bethleham, Mother Upduff and Tango Whiskeyman. Anything I should consider adding?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link
have you heard the lost tapes? i think dead pigeon suite is essential, deadly doris is fun, and messer, scissors, fork and light is enough to raise anyone's heartbeat slightly. love all those songs and consider them essential can!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
Mary Mary..
― nostormo, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
Uphill is my jam from Delay 1968
Waiting For The Streetcar (Lost Tapes again) is great in the same way, Mooney repeating himself until you lose track of everything while the band is locked in like a fine engine
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
I wish this was the year that I knew about Can just so I could experience listening to them for the first time again. That's a really good list you have in there Gerald, although you're ignoring too much off soundtracks (mother sky is the clear highlight but the rest is great too) I don't know what I'd remove from there but I would add the following songs:
Fall of Another Year (from Unlimited edition. it's mostly a hit or miss comp but it's Can so I recommend listening to the whole thing either way)Little Star of BethlehemDon't Say No (Yeah, it's basically moonshake pt. 2 but I love that groove)Quantum PhysicsDizzy DizzyTango WhiskeymanShe Brings the Rain
― Moka, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 07:30 (ten years ago) link
Oh hey... there's a few more that I forgot. This is Can going disco-balearic so if you like Future Days you might appreciate these:
Sunday JamGeheim (Half Past One)
― Moka, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 08:03 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpABb18YNqshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GmmL2fPJSQ
― Moka, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 08:04 (ten years ago) link
Aspectacle from that self titled Can is really good too. I love hearing Jaki holding a disco beat.
― Moka, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 08:09 (ten years ago) link
Sorry for the multiple posts... I'm listening to it right now and 'All Gates are Open' also sounds amazing. I don't know if it's because I'm using my 'expensive' headphones but I hadn't noticed how good this whole album sounds until right now. So yeah, give it a listen... those three songs I mentioned are great. I see you have 'I want more' in your list so they might be right up your alley.
― Moka, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 08:13 (ten years ago) link
the post-babaluma albums are seriously under-rated. not as great as tago etc but plenty of good music on them.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 08:23 (ten years ago) link
from Unlimited edition. it's mostly a hit or miss comp
and weird in that half the tracks don't even sound much like can (the e.f.s. stuff) yet they had the lost tapes tracks in the vault.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 08:28 (ten years ago) link
HELL yes. One of my favorite Can jams, and sort kinda motorik sounding but so busy and punky and propulsive.
― off that fog juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 09:00 (ten years ago) link
Mooney-era Can was so great
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 09:05 (ten years ago) link
Did you ever hear his "Rip van Winkle" with Dave Tyack?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
i went can crazy earlier this year, then took a little break, then went back when this thread was bumped and was reminded that yes, can is the best. the development of the drumbeat in messer, scissors, forks and light is something i could listen to over and over and always find new things to hear and enjoy. even when i'm sick of paying attention, it's a great dance song. plus, medley!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
I really love all of the Mooney tracks on Unlimited Edition.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
^ this, esp love Connection which never seems to get mentioned
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
Mooney Can is so velvets it hurts, I fucking love it but I'm also glad they veered in other directions soon.
"Butterfly" is my jam off Delay.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
Mooney is fine but he's fine as a rock vocalist from the 70's. I love Damo because he sounds very unique, it's a timeless voice in alternative music. When I first heard Can I thought they were a modern band, it was the synths that revealed the album's real age away.
― Moka, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
Who else sounds like Malcolm Mooney?
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
Biography by Rob Young on the way!
http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/30/can-to-get-two-volume-biography-featuring-contributions-from-geoff-barrow-james-murphy-and-more/
(not til 2016 though)
― Number None, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Wait...has this full video existed before? I know I've seen clips, but not sure that the full set has been available...looks/sounds great.
http://youtu.be/vy5q-61HSsM?t=5m
― dronestreet, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i think the full thing is newly emerged. looks better than the clips i've seen in the past! CAN!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link
and that is great news that Rob Young is doing the bio -- his Electric Eden is seriously one of the best books about music I've ever read.
Awesome! Thanks for that.
― Tim Heckler (willem), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link