CAN....S and D?

Deadly Doris from the forthcoming Can album 'The Lost Tapes' released on Mute on 18 June (Europe) /June 19 (US)

PRE - ORDER NOW: http://bit.ly/can-thelosttapes

kinda pricey though!

June 19 is forever from now! Grr.

yeah a little bit pricey. i assume there'll be places selling it for cheaper tho. amazon only has an "import" available for pre-order -- and that costs $75!

I'll be paying to download, I think. Assuming that option will be available to the US.

thats a lot of unreleased material

I will probably pay full price for the 3 cd set. I can't say no to Can. I bought all those remasters, made me fall in love with them all over again.

Did they ever release the box set of reissues? I was tempted, but decided to not pay attention to spare my wallet

hoping and praying that "Alice" is the soundtrack of 'Alice in the Cities' - been looking for that one for ages

because ilx does not have enough Can threads

i want more and more and more and more and more

xpost this thread has been running for ten years, what's the problem?

yaycan!

anyone who complains about too many can threads ain't a can fan!

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> because ilx does not have enough Can threads

I've long believed the large number of Can threads partly due to the similar-threads filter being ineffective for a band named "Can"

serious question: was early can VU- descended, or was it indepedent parallel evolution?

(cuz generally ppl weren't VU influenced much prior to 72-3, and it impresses the fuck outta me if can got there first, this side of the atlantic)

― mark s, Monday, September 3, 2001 8:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've always assumed it was a real VU influence. I will tend to continue that assumption even were Can to claim otherwise.

Holger:

What were Can's main influences from the world of rock, as opposed to classical and avant-garde?

Everybody a little bit different. But mainly I would say the influence, for me, of the Beatles and Velvet Underground was most important. The Velvet Underground especially. They had something achieved which others didn't achieve. Even Jimi Hendrix didn't achieve that. One could have the opinion that this group is not able to play really properly right. They didn't get the right rhythm, they couldn't make a real tight rhythm. But the music was incredibly convincing. And this feeling made us encouraged, actually, to go on with rock music in general, instead of, let's say, making avant-garde academic music. Academic music was somehow finished by the audiences. Not by the musical idea itself. But we liked to do something without notation. We didn't want to read music off papers. We really tried to make instant compositions from the very beginning. This Can tradition actually achieved this very much when we played live.

NYCers— Malcolm Mooney is playing tonight at Santos

super psyched on this lost tapes set. anyone know how limited it is?

i was going to pre-order for $55 (w/ shipping...); but do i feel like saving 15 bucks and chance-ing it in a store?

Pre-order it at any half-decent record shop and you'll be absolutely fine.

$27 from Amazon7 from Amazon

oops

buncha can live footage, just put it on in the background and it sounds great

http://networkawesome.com/show/live-music-show-can-1970-1977/

Curated by Markus Fiedler
Total Runtime: 1:24:50
Live Music Show, 70s, cologne, czukay, experimental, germany, improv, jam, kraut, rock

Dead Lock (1970)
Mother Sky (1970)
Paperhouse (1972)
Spoon (1972)
Intermission: News Report from 1971
Bring Me Coffee Or Tea (1972)
Vitamin C (1972)
Sing Swan Song (1973)
I'm Too Leise (1974)
Vernal Equinox (1975)
I Want More (1976)
Don't Say No (1977)
Dizzy Dizzy (1977)

bump

yeah this is grrrrrreat

what's up with the juggler tho. was he in the band?

watching Irmin Schmidt play is so fun

A little Xmas ditty from Can.

http://youtu.be/iInAuoio-pQ

What, am I the only Can fan???

Malkmus does Can

Can - The Lost Tapes

I know about that one, but this wasn't Lost Tapes related. I guess that's the default Can thread now.

think they're just pointing out that other can threads have seen action lately

Has this been posted before? Really interesting seeing what Holger Czukay was doing in Can when he stopped playing bass - perhaps debatable whether it works or not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZkex5jHvuI

On the Can DVD unless I am much mistaken...

Oh right, never seen that

Recently I was sitting at my desk at work grooving to the live version of Spoon and the dean saw me and asked what I was listening to. Logically I was thrilled anyone cared, so I told him and he was like "Cats?" and I said, "No, CAN." He asked me to email him a youtube, so I did.

A week later, he responded, "Interesting… not for casual listening, at least for me. Thanks, [name redacted]"

haha!!
It's totally for casual listening!!

This has been my krautrock year of discovery, and I'm excited that Can has clicked for me in a big way. Not everything, mind you - I really don't ever need to hear "Aumgn" again. I made my own compilation as I find the longer versions utterly thrilling. I tried to mix it up but found that chronological order worked best:

1. Father Cannot Yell (Monster Movie)
2. Yoo Doo Right (Monster Movie)
3. Thief (Delay 1968)
4. The Empress And The Ukraine Kind (Unlimited Edition) <--- the template for all early Fall songs!
5. Mother Sky (Soundtracks)
6. Paperhouse (Tago Mago)
7. Mushroom (Tago Mago)
8. Oh Yeah (Tago Mago)
9. Halleluwah (Tago Mago)
10. Pinch (Ege Bamyasi)
11. Vitamin C (Ege Bamyasi)
12. I'm So Green (Ege Bamyasi)
13. Spoon (Ege Bamyasi)
14. Turtles Have Short Legs (Radio Waves)
15. Future Days (Future Days)
16. Moonshake (Future Days)
17. Bel Air (Future Days)
18. Chain Reaction (Soon Over Babaluma)
19. I Want More (Flow Motion)

That fills 2 CDs, which is how my primitive thinking works. There's a handful of songs that just missed the cut: A Spectacle, Bring Me Coffee Or Tea, Dizzy Dizzy, Little Star Of Bethleham, Mother Upduff and Tango Whiskeyman. Anything I should consider adding?

have you heard the lost tapes? i think dead pigeon suite is essential, deadly doris is fun, and messer, scissors, fork and light is enough to raise anyone's heartbeat slightly. love all those songs and consider them essential can!

Mary Mary..

Uphill is my jam from Delay 1968

Waiting For The Streetcar (Lost Tapes again) is great in the same way, Mooney repeating himself until you lose track of everything while the band is locked in like a fine engine

I wish this was the year that I knew about Can just so I could experience listening to them for the first time again. That's a really good list you have in there Gerald, although you're ignoring too much off soundtracks (mother sky is the clear highlight but the rest is great too) I don't know what I'd remove from there but I would add the following songs:

Fall of Another Year (from Unlimited edition. it's mostly a hit or miss comp but it's Can so I recommend listening to the whole thing either way)
Little Star of Bethlehem
Don't Say No (Yeah, it's basically moonshake pt. 2 but I love that groove)
Quantum Physics
Dizzy Dizzy
Tango Whiskeyman
She Brings the Rain

Oh hey... there's a few more that I forgot. This is Can going disco-balearic so if you like Future Days you might appreciate these:

Sunday Jam
Geheim (Half Past One)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpABb18YNqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GmmL2fPJSQ

Aspectacle from that self titled Can is really good too. I love hearing Jaki holding a disco beat.

Sorry for the multiple posts... I'm listening to it right now and 'All Gates are Open' also sounds amazing. I don't know if it's because I'm using my 'expensive' headphones but I hadn't noticed how good this whole album sounds until right now. So yeah, give it a listen... those three songs I mentioned are great. I see you have 'I want more' in your list so they might be right up your alley.

the post-babaluma albums are seriously under-rated. not as great as tago etc but plenty of good music on them.

from Unlimited edition. it's mostly a hit or miss comp

and weird in that half the tracks don't even sound much like can (the e.f.s. stuff) yet they had the lost tapes tracks in the vault.

Uphill is my jam from Delay 1968

HELL yes. One of my favorite Can jams, and sort kinda motorik sounding but so busy and punky and propulsive.