Rolling Metal Thread 2012

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"We need backup NOW, we've received a direct hit to the Nickelback! I repeat, a direct hit to the Nickelback!"

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Big metal package at Rhapsody this week, if anybody cares -- including two new 1400+-word essays by me on the state of the art (one more positive than the other one, which takes off from a SXSW panel about metal "extremeness"), memories by Jeanne Fury and Mike McGuirk about growing up learning to love metal in Catholic all-girls and all-boys schools respectively, and Justin Farrar on the state of Southern metal:

xhuxk, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Sounds like there's been some culling at the US office as well –

Meanwhile, I liked your first article, Chuck, but I guess I wasn't sure what the thesis of the extremity essay was, other than that bands will continually try to be extreme and it will always be stupid?

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 00:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Nah, nothing that dogmatic -- I think it doesn't do much to make the music better. And it does seem off-base to me to claim, as some of those panelists kept doing, that it's the main point of metal, and the one direction that metal is always heading. (One guy even kept saying that metal constantly gets heavier, which I don't buy at all.) But honestly I'm not sure I even know when bands are trying to do it (I can't read minds), and there probably are records I love that were trying. But I don't think I had a thesis at all, really. Basically Rhapsody wanted me to write a couple metal pieces, and I saw that panel was going on, and it seemed like something that might be entertaining to riff on a little. Otherwise I really don't think about "extremeness" much at all these days -- seems somewhere between pointless and imaginary to me.

In other news, I'm pretty sure I like the new Bible Of The Devil album a lot, and the new (post-humous) Woods Of Ypres sounds good to me too. But I don't like the Torche, Pelican, or DragonForce albums much.

And that definitely is crappy news about Roadrunner.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2012 01:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Don't really like the new Paradise Lost -- which I had hopes for -- much, either.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2012 01:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's a fair point. Extremity for extremity's sake is pretty dumb. I kind of think extremity is to metal what the philosopher's Stone was to alchemy, though. It's silly and kind of pointless and probably doesn't exist (in the case of extremity, it does technically exist, but it implies an end, which is clearly a fallacy since metal bands keep making things more extreme), but the search for said thing has led to some pretty neat discoveries.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 02:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Wow, just learned that I'll get to see Eyehategod AND High On Fire this weekend. They're both playing Dark Lord Day at the Three Floyd's Brewery. SUPER stoked.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 April 2012 03:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Drop out of life with bong in hand, follow the smoke to the riff-filled land…

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 03:35 (five years ago) Permalink

From a recent press release:

Black God, the new Louisville-based blitz rock super-group featuring Rob Pennington (Endpoint, By The Grace Of God, Black Cross), Ryan Patterson (Coliseum, Black Cross), Nick Thieneman (Young Widows, Black Cross) and Ben Sears, have announced a string of East Coast US tour dates taking place next month, including two shows in New York on May 26th (one matinee show at the city's legendary ABC No Rio and another "somewhere in Brooklyn" taking place the same night), in support of their new EP "II" out now on No Idea Records.

Described as a cross between The Wipers and Fugazi's "In On The Kill Taker," as well as Drive Like Jehu, Rites of Spring, Killing Joke and others, Black God has also recently premiered their video for new song "Everyone's A Friend" currently streaming above.

Band has dudes from bands I like playing music inspired by bands I like. Not a shock I see potential here...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 27 April 2012 12:44 (five years ago) Permalink

In other news, I caught Rammstein last night at Wells Fargo Arena, the basketball palace in Philly. I wondered what kind of crowd was taking the Ministry riff-and-repeat blueprint minus English and smack plus pyrotechnical ecstasy into a commercial realm that the likes of KMFDM never would come close to reaching. But it's just as well; as much as I enjoyed killing motherfucking Depeche Mode, I enjoyed watching these Germans kill the venue instead of merely play in it.

Seeing the show, I still don't know who is buying their records! The amount of industrial and Goth types were vastly underrepresented as were the metal contingency, though the latter at least was a sizable minority. (And they were old farts like me for the most part. One guy I ran into at the WAWA near my house was wearing a Sarcofago shirt!) The rest? It coulda been a Flyers game - middle aged dudes in polo shirts rocking out.

They had reason to. The band filled out the arena with explosions and smoke and melodrama and even some humor (singer Till Lindemann literally rode a giant penis that shot a faux load upon the hapless crowd during "Pussy). No shock that Kiss was an early inspration for them. They're exactly like Kiss updated with a dour ferocity befitting our times and mechanical precision befitting their homeland.

Rammstein seems to be written off as a gimmick in a lot of circles. I do not share that sentiment.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 27 April 2012 12:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Black God sounds too good to be true. Hopefully it's not just a too-clever publicist who knows how to evoke the coolest influences (and push my Pavlov slaver buttons), and they deliver! Will check it out.

Glad Chuck likes the new Bible of the Devil. I haven't heard it all yet, but am going to their record release show tomorrow night at Ultra Lounge with Superchrist.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Seeing the show, I still don't know who is buying their records!

In America, the answer is "basically nobody." Their record sales were so low (and their insurance requirements so high) that they didn't tour the US for a solid decade. The only reason they're touring arenas right now is because of pent-up demand.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 27 April 2012 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes, I want to see the Rammstein tour badly. And that's a fun little recap, NYCNative.

Oh, and I'm hugely jealous of Jon, I was just reading about that potentially incredible brewery show yesterday.

A. Begrand, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Speaking of extreme, these guys aren't extreme at all, except for extremely great:

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Leatherwolf are great. The self-titled EP and followup LP are both a load of fun.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 April 2012 19:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, and I'm hugely jealous of Jon, I was just reading about that potentially incredible brewery show yesterday.

Yeah, I'm really thrilled. I've had tickets (this is really popular around here and usually sells out in seconds) since long before they announced the bands. I was already excited knowing Eyehategod was going to be there, but when they announced High On Fire the other day, I couldn't be more anxious for tomorrow to get here. Great music and craft beers all day? Yes please.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Today I am happy about the new Moonspell album, and that Nightwish and Kamelot are coming to Boston in September. If at least three of us from my company go, the company pays for it, so there's still time to interview for a job here and join me.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Whoa, new Prong is pretty rad. Didn't know they still had it in them!

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 21:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I was amazed, I pretty much lost interest in Prong in 1992. This is one solid album.

A. Begrand, Friday, 27 April 2012 22:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I forgot to mention, Prong were really good when I saw them last week with Witchburn and Crowbar. They sounded much like they did in 1988-90 when I was first into them, but a dirtier, less pristine sound.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Also forgot that Superchrist are also celebrating an album release at the show tomorrow. Chris Black, man. Dawnbringer, High Spirits, Pharaoh, Superchrist, at one point Nachtmystium. How does he sleep?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

caught inquisition last night. love these guys and they put on a great show... but I'm not sure they needed to play every song they've ever written

original bgm, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:28 (five years ago) Permalink

The latest joint endorsement from me and my 4yo daughter is Russian gothic/neo-trad band Dark Princess, who have apparently been around since 2004, but this is the first I've heard of them. Or maybe the potential of a metal band with "Princess" in the name just hadn't maximized itself in my life until now. The new album is called The World I've Lost, and falls somewhere between Christian Mistress and Xandria and old Warlock.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, I only ended up being able to see High On Fire last night. The whole event was set up more for the distribution of the beer than for the music part, so I was in line for my Dark Lord Imperial Stout when Eyehategod played. High On Fire were pretty good, but it was a bit of a short set.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 April 2012 01:09 (five years ago) Permalink

oh dude, you were at dark lord day?

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 April 2012 01:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Yep, it was a blast.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 April 2012 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah it sounds like a pretty incredible event. i was coincidentally chatting with a guy yesterday who went a couple years ago.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:37 (five years ago) Permalink

It really was fun, but like I said, the event is really all about the beer and the music is kinda "tacked on", so it sort of gets the short shrift of attention. I mean, the stage was set up in the brewery's warehouse and, even for High On Fire, there was never more than a couple hundred people out of the (figure I heard) 6000 that were in watching the bands play. I could waltz right in and to pretty much the front of the stage at will. Still sorta disappointed I had to miss Eyehategod to get my Dark Lord, but #firstworldproblem and all. I still had a blast.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

naw man thats kind of a huge bummer :/

albert rotman (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's my mostly metallic May concert list:

5/ 6 "Decibel Magazine Tour 2012" @ Trocadero
5/ 8 Lacuna Coil @ TLA
5/13 Esperanza Spaulding @ Electric Factory
5/23 Nasum / Brutal Truth @ The Barbary
5/26 Church Of Misery / Rwake / Gates Of Slumber @ North Star Bar

I was possibly going to see Santigold on the 8th and still might however the wife and I saw Santigold but she has never seen Lacuna Coil and tickets are like $20 cheaper.

If any Philly folks will be around, we should hang and drink and stuff. I cannot believe a Decibel tour date in Philly won't have some of you fuckers in attendance...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Church of Misery is sooo good live, I couldn't believe it.

Personally, my only metal shows in May are this weekend. Mares of Thrace/Untimely Demise on Friday, Opeth/Mastodon/Ghost Saturday. Well maybe Apocalyptica too later this month, if I can get a pass.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Re: Leatherwolf

While at an Exodus show in the late '80s at The Bayou in Washington DC, the guys from Leatherwolf were in attendance, hanging out to see the show. They were nice guys despite having to deal with idiot teenagers saying "I hate poser glam stuff... But your band seems cool... I mean, you're not that glam so you're not a poser... Um, are you a poser?" Etcetera.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:18 (five years ago) Permalink


War Of Ages, Return to Life (Facedown) #130, 2,860 sold
Who knows, maybe their performance at this Summer’s SoulFest will attract a new audience for them?

Torche, Harmonicraft (Volcom) #141, 2,630 sold
The sludge rock group’s first album via Volcom has a strong first week, debuting in the top 200. While Torche should be pleased, guitarist Andrew Elstner is probably just happy that he doesn’t have rabies.

Prong, Carved Into Stone (Long Branch) 1,650 sold
A strong first week for Tommy Victor and co., who sell roughly two hundred copies more than their last album, 2007’s Power Of The Damager (which sold roughly 1,400 in its first week).

Anathema, Weather Systems (The End) 1,290 sold
After a seven year wait between 2003′s A Natural Disaster and 2010′s We’re Here Because We’re Here, it’s safe to say that fans are grateful that the English post-prog rock group didn’t make them wait as long for a new album.

Paradise Lost, Tragic Idol (Century Media) 900 sold
A solid first week for the British goth metal group. Looks like everyone agrees that drummer Adrian Erlandsson (ex- At the Gates/ The Haunted/ Cradle of Filth) was a great addition to the band.

Meanwhile, Jack Black's Blunderbuss sold 138,000.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:29 (five years ago) Permalink

i read that as Edmondson

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I think that Church of Misery and Sleep are playing within a week of each other in SF just a few days before I'm supposed to be on a plane for Alaska. No way I'm gonna make it. If I had to pick one, it'd be Church of Misery. Just heard their stuff via last year's Hellfest set and was knocked out. Pity, since they're probably not coming back to the states anytime real soon.

Matt M., Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:25 (five years ago) Permalink

But Oxbow and Kowloon Walled City are on that Sleep bill..

SeanWayne, Friday, 4 May 2012 07:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Hi all, a rare appearance from me. How much do you guys rate that Azareth album that crept into the 2011 metal countdown? I've been caning this wonderful bit of blackened death metal and I love it.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:41 (five years ago) Permalink

wish i could find a link to a youtube or something but a ladino album i'm reviewing has a track called 'la comida la manana' (it's a traditional sephardic song) that is done in gothic female vox folk metal style. it's kinda excellent.

Mordy, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:13 (five years ago) Permalink

I liked that Azareth album well enough. Not a favorite, but I've pulled it out more often than I expected I would. Right now I've been spending lots of time with High Spirits (found thier demos disc at Reckless last week), Occultation, Horisont, and Woods of Ypres. Also picked up a couple Deep Purple live albums for cheap.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

That Occultation is SO GOOD.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes it is, fantastic.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink


former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

also fantastic

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink


Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink


heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

the summoning works!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Horisont rules. You got that at Reckless?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:30 (five years ago) Permalink

No, FYE actually! I've walked in that place five times and walked out with something in my hand twice. Once was last week with Horisont and then again today when I just picked up four dirt cheap used BOC albums.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

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