THE GAME OF THRONES/ASOIAF SPOILER THREAD (WARNING: SPOILERS)

yeah i was talking about that upthread and how if they really have license to make big changes to the plot, they should just cut out everything in her story after Mereen and just send her straight to Westeros after that. the first time i read the books, her chapters were just so disengaged from the exciting stuff happening in Westeros that i found them really boring even when there was some action

like, she could chill in Dorne secretly until the rest of the plot stuff is set up for her appearance in (presumably) book 6, and that would give a better reason to shoehorn in the Dorne stuff from book 4

you are making a lot of assumptions about her going to Westeros in future books, maybe she'll just chill out in Mereen some more

It'd be relatively easy for them to accelerate events if the books were already finished but seeing as they're not i'm not sure what they can do. I mean Daenerys secretly turning up in Dorne would require a fairly massive plot reshuffle

Oh, my memory is that it's pretty satisying? He dies quite horribly iirc. I agree they may be peaking out his evil levels a bit early though.

I don't care how they treat Joff's wedding as long as they bring in Lady Olenna. QUEEN OF THORNS LAYING THE LAW, MORE LIKE QUEEN OF THRONES AMIRITE?

xp that was just an example, the point is that nothing that happens in her story between the dragons hatching and the end of book 5 seems particularly important, except for her getting an army when she frees Mereen, and the dragons growing which happens regardless of whether she's onscreen or not

Congrats to Davos, who got a huge promotion.

My wife is convinced the Reeds will be left out of the show, with the domesticated wildling chick hitting their notes. Thoughts?

― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:41 PM (3 weeks ago)

i feel like this is happening? shouldn't the reed kids have turned up and been established before theon comes back, which seems to be imminent now? this would be a bad mistake surely.

will be SUPER pissed if theres no crannogmen

i definitely don't think we're seeing them this season anyway. Not sure how a later introduction would work either

howland reed is my favorite character

shouldn't the reed kids have turned up and been established before theon comes back, which seems to be imminent now?

Yes, it is one of those things that has annoyed me.

if you read between the lines, howland reed is a bum on a raft

an AWESOME bum on a raft

I doubt they'll show up this season, maybe next season

yeah, there's no need for them to show up this season –

i guess they figure that enough new characters have been dropped in and they want to roll out the rest of the season without any major new additions. i am ok with that, as long as they do appear in s3.

they need to arrive before theon gets there

The fact that they haven't been cast yet makes me wonder how the Bran storyline is going to pan out (ie what GRRM told the showrunners).

But also I'm 99% certain the Reeds are the only living book characters that know the truth of Jon's parentage?

yah

If I only watched the show I would guess that Jon's father was Hodor.

i heard all the guys you like best r not going to be in the show

i see it

http://images.wikia.com/gameofthrones/images/d/dc/Hodor2.jpg
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i heard all the guys you like best r not going to be in the show

lmbo gyac.

Srsly fed up with the "WEAR ARE JOJEN AND MEEERA" interwebs talk, even though I liked Meera in the books. Anyway, I think that Osha's going to be escorting Bran beyond the Wall, and someone else will take Rickon (I have a suspicion/hope that it's Maester Luwin).

But yeah, heavy hints that Howland knows if R+L=J or not.

I think they're losing me

i see they have jumped way ahead in daenerys's story to the part where it drags along tediously.

couple of great scenes in this one but was disappointing overall. some of the deviation from the books starting to feel gratuitous

damn they sure got rid of daenerys' khalasar or whatever just like that. so now, she truly has absolutely no one with her? also, when are we going to see her get her unsullied by unleashing the dragons? now would seem to be the right time since she has no army or anything to speak of, but then again when you see the size of her dragons they don't look like they could burn anyone. what a weak little flame dragon dude had. tbh daenerys' story was one of the least interesting in the books imo and they are making it even less appealing in the show.

Well, old man Whitebeard is going to show up, and she has Jorah?

Drogon is still small in the House of the Undying, they would have time to grow by the time they get to Astapor. He's still small enough to sit on her shoulder at that stage.

i'm pretty excited about her going into the House of the Undying! that was one of my favourite parts in the book!

i'm still slogging through book 4...

it gets much better through the last quarter, but fuck, it is sloggy.

ok that is good to know - i am over half of the way through

Book 4 will seem much better once you have read book 5. They reflect each other's strengths. I kind of want to take my ebooks of books 4 and 5 and shuffle the chapters together cuz that's really how it should be read. (Or has someone already done that?)

I agree, I'm over the halfway point with ADWD and it's very true, especially once the timelines join up again.

I'm finding ADWD a much quicker read than AFFC, I'm only holding back cos I know there isn't going to be one to go onto.

I've also not found AFFC & ADWD as a bad as people say; I imagine not having to wait 11 years for them helps!

i'm pretty excited about her going into the House of the Undying!

If done well, it has the potential to be fantastic.

i just can't imagine how it could be done well

claustrophobia-inducing hallways, smokey darkness, creepy ghosts, general foreboding

bloody walls, stench of death, etc

what a tv screen can do with that can only fall well short of what the imagination can, that is the problem. if they figure out how to film "general foreboding" they are in with a shot.

have you ever seen a good horror movie

seriously!
i think they can do it.

I hope we get Rhaegar

yea! harp playing rhaegar hallucination would be awesome!

possibly related, has anyone rewatched episode 1 to see of mance rayder was actually at winterfell during the feast?

huh?

mance reveals that he was at the feast for king robert's arrival

but Mance hasn't appeared on the show