Aldo reads DC's New 52 (So you don't have to)

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I like the Batman thing with the owls

mh, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

I am about to restart on this btw - probably the weekend when things will start going up.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

is there any noise about scrapping this abomination yet? is it still actually selling?

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

what would they publish if they scrap what is, now that Batman: Odyssey is done, 100% of their core line?

(The tops are still selling a little higher than the reboot, the bottoms are selling as low as before)

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

"What do we do if this goes tits-up?" is a key question that, by all rights, should have been bandied about in the halls of DC editorial before they undertook this gargantuan overhaul, but something tells me that they don't and never did have an exit strategy.

Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

plan b is was and always has been CALL JOHN BYRNE

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

Nooooo

mh, Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

so mad I can't find a photo of the special elevated chair Byrne uses at signings to place him higher than other artists, right now

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

I thought he didn't go to shows anymore.

That pic did give me cause to bust out laughing for a moment, though. The other one, even moreso.

Matt M., Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

used, then, your strange North American world is basically permanently '80s to me

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

Surely we are discussing Plan C, where Plan B is All Liefeld All The Time?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 April 2012 06:22 (eleven years ago) link

He's the ginger Kevin Smith!

like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 26 April 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

If it was permanently 80s, then Spacemen 3 might still be together, which would be weird.

Though I did see JB once at a show in 1988 or 1989. I've told the story here before, about the moment that I lost all respect for him. Will tell it again if needed.

Matt M., Thursday, 26 April 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

go for it

Number None, Thursday, 26 April 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

reprint stamp?

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

NOT A DREAM SEQUENCE
NOT A HOAX

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

Not the reprint stamp.

JB would hold court at his table (with a normal-size chair), draw a sketch and hold it up for the clutch of fanboys hovering around. Then he would hold an auction right then and there amongst the gathered fans.

That same show, a friend got a fully inked sketch of the Joker by Bill Sienkiewicz for like ten bucks.

I still enjoy JB's FANTASTIC FOUR run and his UNCANNY, but lost a whole ton of respect for him at that moment.

Matt M., Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, that IS dickish!

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

Superdickish.

Matt M., Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

I swear I heard a similar story that involved Byrne dashing off a sketch at the request of some young kid, and then auctioning off the sketch while the kid was still standing there. Now, that's dickish.

Pheeel, Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Superdickish.

Matt M., Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Current state of my 52 reading:

Still actually reading and enjoying: Batman

Might catch up on the trades: Swamp Thing/Demon Knights/Wonder Woman

T0rrenting for trainwreck curiosity: Justice League

Dropped: Batwoman

Being sad about: Action Comics

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 April 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link

YOU READ 6 WEEKS OF DC BOOKS IN ONE GO. LOSE 5 SAN AND ROLL AGAINST WILL TO REMAIN ALIVE

All Star Western #7: Fairly standard Hex fare. We're still in Arkham and Hex is now undercover in a street fighting arena. There's a couple of fights and a bit of plot development. It's good stuff, but not groundbreaking. The backup is potentially good stuff, but in an attempt to hammer in a BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALL ATHEIST GENII message we find that the captain of a whaler owns either one of the first 3500 British copies of On The Origin Of Species or one of the first 500 American copies. Not impossible I suppose, but not very likely either and if I can look up publication dates on Wikipedia then so can you. But then this is a thing for me, people being lazy while writing. You chose to put the detail in, it could at least be right.

Aquaman #7: Um. Yeah. Black Manta appears and kills some woman - this is all connected to the doctor Aquaman was taking the piss out of a couple of issues ago. Some woman with a big cat pops out of a wormhole and attacks everybody but they might be all mates at the end. I'm sure it'll make sense eventually.

Batman #7: OK, this is big. Batman escapes and we find out the truth about the Court of Owls, or at least the amount we're supposed to know at the moment. Dick makes this very point in the comic, that we're being deliberately drip-fed info to keep us sucked in but the things which we don't know yet (but Bats does) is REALLY IMPORTANT but it's being kept from us. Seriously, everybody should be picking up the trades of this.

Batman The Dark Knight #7: David Finch needs to learn what "final" means. He must have time to read a dictionary, given how little he does on his own book now, so we should tell him to. BATMANG EVEN ADMITS THIS TOO FLASH THAT IT'S WRONG. Anyway, Bane goes for a swim and White Rabbit may well be Bruce's girlfriend, even though he seems to have dumped her. This started well and got worse every issue, truth to tell. Does that mean Finch is actually better than we thought? The more of him in it, the more readable it is. A conundrum for our times.

DCU Presents The Challs #7: Unreadable DiDio nonsense. The guy from last month that dided is alive again, the Challs go off to find some stuff from their brand new SECRET BILLION POUND BASE, some statues come to life and the dead guy kills some people. As you were.

Flash #7: Does nobody have powers under control in this book? Captain Cold's go wrong and Flash's go wrong AGAIN, this time sucking Iris through a wormhole. To get her back we break out the COSMIC TREADMILL. FUCK YEAH. And Gorilla City gets introduced too? In addition to the basic quality of the book, which is high, we're getting Flash Fanboy 101 to boot. Awesome.

I, Vampire #7: Takes place after JLD #7. Reads JLD #7. Reads I, V #7. Is none the wiser. This is very pretty but I can't make head nor tail of it. When the titular hero died he may or not have been reborn as Cain who has started the Vampire Apocalypse. Which is too powerful for all the magic heroes we know about in the Johnsiverse but is being held at bay by Batman and Batgirl. I think. It continues in both #8s anyway. It might make sense later.

Justice League #7: Train wreck. The Shazam backup/teaser is better. But they're both Ultimate Johns Sadface.

Justice League Dark #7: More coherent than I, Vampire but this may just be because the plot almost makes a little sense. They all hate each other, and all of them are crap in their own way. They all end up in different parts of the afterlife at the end. Unfortunately I doubt they'll stay there.

LoSH #7: The lustre is wearing off, if I'm honest. A flipper.

Nightwing #7: So, everything from the earlier issues is now shown to be a lead into the end of Batman #7. I can get with that, and it's well written stuff. This has been worthwhile up till now but I think I'll have had enough after the Owls crossover event.

Supergirl #7: The fight from the last issue sort of peters out into nothing. Now there's a metaphor for this book.

Superman #7: Bored with this. Helspont out of Wildstorm and previous issues of Stormwatch is the bad guy. It looks like they're building to Krypton being a Daemonite outpost, but I don't care to be honest.

Wonder Woman #7: Diana realises she gets things wrong sometimes. This maintains the high standard of previous issues but is moving kind of slowly. It's always a beacon this late in the reading list though, so I need to stick with it regardless or it'll just be depressingly awful.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

Birds of Prey #7: Do you ever have one of those days? When you cut a man's head off with the sword your dead husband lives in, only for it to turn out you've killed the wrong guy? Exactly. Not that thrilling.

Blue Beetle #7: I have a nagging suspicion this is getting better, but incrementally and it's nigh impossible to tell. It just isn't doing anything that isn't being done 1000x better in Ultimate Spider-Man, for example. I think it should just try and work out what it wants to be and stick with it,which it seems unable to do, and accept that noboby really likes it. It's no wonder this and Captain Atom are the lowest sellers not cancelled.

And speaking of which... Captain Atom #7: A new backstory for a character we don't care about, written by a guy who makes Liefeld look like a genius, which ends with Captain Atom having a crying wank outside a restaurant while the girl he fancies (who he nearly burned to death the other issue, mind) goes on a date. And then an alium comes out of him and wants to have a philosophical chat. Written like that I almost wish I had read it.

Catwoman #7: This is just sort of a nothing book with no plot. Catwoman is stealing cars for a living, she has a snarky fence and a new car thief boyfriend. Her boobs look weird. I don't get why anyone would buy it.

GLC #7: It feels like an obvious trope as there must have been any number of "returning a dead Lantern to his family" issues before, and this is utterly treading water. Oddly, I don't remember the actual plot finishing and I don't think it has, even though Guy Gardner is getting told off for it. I struggled to stay awake while reading this.

Red Hood #7: I thought I liked this. I'm not so sure - there's a fight inside a plane with the ghost of a cavewoman made from smoke and Jason Todd is WAY more complicated than any of us ever thought. I think the simple answer is that it's about in the middle, quality wise. That makes it better than AT LEAST 20 other books DC publish in the Johnsiverse, which is a much worse looking stat than I thought it would be.

Blackhawks #7: ????? I read this and didn't understand a word. A plane crashes into a building two thirds of the way through. I say building, I mean a room in an underground base which it gets directly into. That's a big ventilation shaft. Thank G_d that's nearly over.

GL New Guardians #7: AND IT WAS A DOUBLE TREBLE QUADRUPLE BLUFF BY LARFLEEZE ALL ALONG FEATURING A GENETICALLY MODIFIED DUPLICATE VEGA SYSTEM. I can't believe I didn't spot that. (By the way, Larfleeze is now the worstest baddest GL enemy ever from the dawn of time etc, just like all the previous ones.) It's also revealed the Omega Men aren't in the Johnsiverse. ;_; All of Red Lanterns happened between the last issue of this and the current one, which is maybe the best fate for it. OH NOES KYLE RAYNER HAS TO KILL LARFLEEZE TO LIVE WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT?

Teen Titans #7: Much as I'm glad at the reveal that it actually is Danny The Street that's joined the Titans, and Kid Flash is still brilliant, this is going in circles. Month on month the bad guy is revealed to be controlled by the next level bad guy and this issue is no exception. I enjoy this as much as Red Hood. With all that entails.

Savage Hawkman #7: The Gentleman Ghost starts the zombie apocalypse to make himself whole again, and is beaten by a zombie in the process. Static shows up for no reason. Hawkman dumps teh ULTIMATE WEAPON where nobody will find (at the top of a mountain). I SMELL A PLOT POINT. He fights a shape-shifter in the next issue, which might be when Liefeld gets on board. The first thing she'll shift is her feet, I bet.

Firestorm #7: Jason is tortured when he sees his parents and has a little cry. Ronnie is tortured when he sees some Quraqis and has a little arm when they cut his hand off. Hardly seems like a fair deal. This is still so 80s it's ridiculous, and has yet one more new super Firestorm-a-like. I think they've introduced something like 10 now. Let's have a Liefeldening!

Voodoo #7: Huh? Was fun though, almost.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

Action #8: Off the bus, I think. GMoz wraps the story in a couple of pages but pads heavily with the sort of will-he-won't-he challenge of a hero stuff he's done too many times before (it feels like). And the less said about the violent change in artist for the last half dozen pages the better. Tepid.

All Star Western #8: Bless. Hex, Nighthawk and Cinnamon are off fighting the anarchists so Arkham does what all doctors should - he gets stoned off his tits on opium then arrested. It's all part of a complicated double cross that looks to see our heroes blown up next month anyway, but I'm more concerned about the guy whose mother Arkham doesn't slag off in prison - what happened to him? Backup is irrelevant again, sadly.

Animal Man #8: I hate the artwork all the way through this as blackens my mood as I try and read it. Maxine learns how to control her powers and Buddy forgets that birds fly and ends up pecked to death. This is leading into a crossover where you have to buy annuals and Frankenstein. It makes you wonder where they would have taken the plot if it had been cancelled, really. I'm getting kind of sick of the race to cross everything over as early as possible and would like to see some plot development in isolation.

Aquaman #8: Marital strife as Mera finds out about the super-team Arthur was in behind her back with the woman from the last issue and her big cat. We get a flashback to them being heroic at the same time as Arthur was already in the Justice League - WHAT DO YOU MEAN I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO TAKE YOUR CONTINUITY SERIOUSLY? Like Aquaman, this is middle of the road and vaguely good.

Batgirl #8: So it turns out the bad guy's is one of the henchmen present when the Joker shot Babs. OH WAIT IS THIS MAYBE GAIL SIMONE'S WHOLE PLOT? Mummy Babs gets the blame for everybody James has killed since he was a child. CLANG! Who turns up on the last page to lead into the Owl saga? It's almost like this writes itself.

Batman #8:

http://youtu.be/M8el_P4yvfc

Great stuff.

Batman & Robin #8: 20 pages of DADDY ISSUES. Not really what I want from this book.

Batman the Dark Knight #8: David Finch content = the cover, which is at least partially related to the contents. A solid enough minor Batbook but nothing better. Would rather not have paid for it to be honest.

Batwing #8: So, the primary bad guy turns out to be Batwang's mate back from they were child soldiers but in charge is a guy who runs child soldier armies called Kone. HOLY HAM-FISTED CURRENT AFFAIRS! There's no way this will make it beyond the Owls. What was I saying earlier about cancellations?

Batwoman #8: Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. I think we know what that means about the writing.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Aldo, you are a prince among men. These reviews have made my day.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

I hate the artwork all the way through this as blackens my mood as I try and read it.

you're still not telling us who does the art or writing on any of these!

Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. I think we know what that means about the writing.

idk I really like the [IDEA of] multiple overlapping flashbacks of different characters all coming to the "present" at different speeds, but the art makes it painful to be able to figure out if it's ~working~ or not. still no idea who's taking over for the second half of the storyline, so I know whether to brace myself for the same awful 90s inking.

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

I started listing them but I've been finding it enough typing as it is and with the amount of artistic changes in most of the issues I'd have to put more thought into it than the editorial team.

For Animal Man it's really pages 1-5 I dislike the most, which are by "long-term" AM artist Travel Foreman. Particularly Buddy in the trailer - I don't know what he's trying to get across but it absolutely doesn't work. Steve Pugh does the remaining pages and they're better but I'm not that sold on the layouts or the shading.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:09 (eleven years ago) link

I think I can sum up my feelings about the new 52 with the following statement:

I keep forgetting that Suicide Squad, my favorite book of the ones I'm reading, exists.

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

I read a few issues of Animal Man and thought they were pretty good! Is it still decent?

mh, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, outside of the crossover shit which sounds horrible. Has he met up with Swamp Thing yet?

mh, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

What's the appeal of Suicide Squad exactly? I see you and Aldo have been repping for it, but I think I'm missing something. (I don't like missing things.)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

Shark kill

The world is your urinal. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'd buy every issue of SUICIDE SQUAD if I knew they were killing them all by issue #12 only to bring in a new team.

WONDER WOMAN is actually pretty good, but I think that's because of Cliff Chiang far more than Azzarello. It reads kinda like SANDMAN minus the Byron and (Robert) Smith. Otherwise, I'm really not into the reboot stuff at all.

Matt M., Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

I enjoy the random mayhem of Suicide Squad. The palpable distrust amongst the various team members and the things they are being put through make for a relatively enjoyable read. Also, as Matt hints, aside from two or three characters there's definitely a sense that the team members are expendable and I enjoy reading to see which one is going to get brutally killed this week.

Also, King Shark is really funny to me.

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, what Dan says. The Deadshot/Harley dynamic has been great fun too.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

DCU Presents the Challs #8: Jerry Ordway's art looks like an inferior Chris Weston. That feels intrinsically wrong to say, doesn't it? Heretical, almost? So, this starts with one of them being sucked through a historical monument which lets them emote for the purposes of televisual entertainment for a bit. They then sit down and have an omelette and have a chat with a guy who is obviously an evil duplicate sent to steal the talismans (talismen?). I KNEW IT, IT'S DEAD/NOT DEAD HALF FACE MISSING GUY FROM THE OTHER ISSUE. He kills one, is destroyed (luckily) by the power and then, just like that, the series finishes with no real explanation or wrap-up of the storyline. Utterly appalling storytelling, and a wasted opportunity.

Demon Knights #8: The title of this books was misused for Daemonites in another book this month. COULD THIS BE A HINT OR JUST A CRAPPY INJOKE? I can't tell any more. Anyhoo, we begin with a debate about the nature of the DC Universe, or how everybody present can know a different Camelot and not have seen each other in it. We then have a Jason Blood origin story and it turns out Merlin bonded him to Etrigan after two different objects of his affections (Jason and Madame Xanadu) fell for each other. I can go for the idea of him doing it in some kind of hissy fit to be honest, it always seemed like a dick move to me. Etrigan turns out to be a dick because he wants to make the beast with two backs (one scaly, one not) with her too and so burns a village down. Just your run of the mill day.

Detective Comics #8: Batman behaves quite differently to Catwoman that he does is some of the other reboot books, I'll tell you that for nothing. To be fair, the comic even acknowledges this in itself, which is kind of an odd state of affairs. Scarecrow sends Batman off to save Alfred E Neumann but STUPID BATTY MAN it's all a con. D'oh! Good stuff though, and I'm entertained all the way.

Flash #8: SPEED FORCE EXPLAINED! FUNERAL THAT SLAGS OFF GREEN LANTERN! TRYING TO BREAK THROUGH TIME! THE RISE OF GRODD! LOTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT MAKE ME SPEAK IN ALL CAPS! I'm tempted to say this has gradually become my favourite book of the 52. As thrill-powered as it gets.

Frankenstein #8: Franky Baby goes on the rampage back to his spiritual home and is killed by his mum, having been previously killed by his dad. Franky Lady leaves the BPRD and Ranky decides he has to stay with them because he needs to wash the grren stuff off his hands and they have the only hot water in Europe. Franky Writer congratulates himself about how great he is, despite everything in this being ripped off something else - there's a "KILL" "KILL" repeat that eventaully becomes "KILL ME" which Alan Moore did in Miracleman, I think, and various others have done in other places. The nicest thing I can think of to say about it is it's quicker to read than all the things it's stolen from but it's also less fun.

Justice League Dark #8: The "Crystal One" who is the "Power Master" decides to stop being neutral in letting the bad guy take all the magic energy by farting a tornado into Gotham which has... erm.. no effect whatsoever except allow for a Batman panel. Shade gets eaten by the M-Vest and ends up permanently in the Area of Madness (but Kathy's there, so he doesn't have to get the vest to magic her up when he wants a shag). There's lots of running away. Then, amongst all the vampires, a vampire turns up...

I, Vampire #8: and completes the crossover plot before page 3 is over. Then erases it all from history. So, 2 months well spent then. I think there are more adverts in this book than any other I've ever read.

Justice League #8: Steve Trevor tries to put Green Arrow on the team but Aquaman is so traumatised by JT Krul's run on the book he says no. In the backup, Billy Batson goes to live with the Legion of Substitute Heroes and drinks some hot chocolate. I bet that gets you dying to read it, huh?

LoSH #8: Two short stories, one which teases the return of the Fatal Five and one which is a typical Legion backup story. We're back again at pandering to Legion fanboys I'm afraid but during this slog through things I can't be arsed about this pushes my buttons.

Legion Lost #8: Oh great, a prequel to a crossover. At the very beginning and the very end we get stuff on a guy called Harvest who steals our heroes at the end to take them to N.O.W.H.E.R.E. The rest of it is pretty good fluff, I suppose. If it wasn't for the characters in this I wouldn't care for the book at all, I suspect.

Nightwing #8: Another prequel crossover! But to a good one! And a pretty great issue. Backstory about Gotham, Owls and eye stabbings. Woohoo! I'm kind of surprised how much I like this book to be honest but more than happy to still be on board.

OMAC #8: THE SHOCKING END NOBODY SAW COMING! Well, apart from anyone watching sales figures. This series has been an absolute Kirby Blast, and this issue is absolutely no exception. Worth it for the panel where OMAC and Maxwell Lord fall out of Abraham Lincoln's nose alone. I have loved this, really. A shame there were so few agreed.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Red Lanterns #8: I love it when people explain exactly what they're doing, even to the point where they speak out loud their inner thoughts, despite them being the only person there. That's quality storytelling and always makes me want to read further. Humans are the most intelligent species in the universe because they have brains that evolved over millions of years. That's another good one. Crossovers into GL, GLC, Stormwatch too, which always works. Thankfully the blurb implies the next issue is the last. Unfortunately I suspect they're lying.

Stormwatch #8: Not Batman gets all flustered when a small child tells him she knows he'd like to suck off Not Superman, then the Engineer tells sexy love times stories to a generator and offers to show the child a puppy as a treat. Not Batman then leaves her in an alium stomach, in another dimension, as punishment for helping him get Not Superman back to make kissyface at. She brings herself back anyway to piss him off. This helps beat some space baddies who killed off the Daeomonites (despite them being alive in not only this book but half the others) according to J'onn J'onnz. I suspect he just hasn't read enough Wildstorm books. I wish I was him.

Suicide Squad #8: THE SECRET ORIGIN OF DEADSHOT'S MOUSTACHE! Apart from this, it's a framing story of individual members of the Squad to give us the next mystery. Who is the plant out to kill The Wall for The Basilisk? A break from the carnage Dan refers to upthread but still a great book. Even if it looks like there's a Resurrection Man crossover imminent.

Supergirl #8: Kara meets a friend, because The Aul' Country is identical to Krypton. They hide out in a really obscure location - The Flatiron Building (or whatever the DC equivalent is called, but I have a sneaking feeling it was established earlier that Supergirl takes place in New York - Titans is there so we know it exists in the DCU). They then go to Queens, just passed the Daily Planet building. Which is is Downtown Metropolis. They then go to another part of Queens, which Times Square is in, because she's got a "buzz" about her being the top Celtic Songstress in indie coffee shops. My head hurts. It turns out she's the Byrne-era villainess Silver Banshee, because she can sing and it turns out her "Da" (see, that proves she's Irish, obviously) is the Black Banshee. I hope you're keeping up with this.

Superman #8: Helspont is the baddie from "For The Man Who Has Everything". Basically. Hooray for Dan Jurgens' reading abilities.

Swamp Thing #8: I'll have to be honest. This is mainly splash pages or gorgeous Yanick Paquette art. But there's enough plot to carry it, just, as Alec accepts what he is not and fights the Rot to get Abby back. The last few pages seem to imply this isn't possible but then it looks like we go into a different crossover next month and leave this plot alone? I'm, not for the first time, baffled by DC's editorial decisions.

Wonder Woman #8: A Diana armed to the teeth goes to the Underworld, which is now London as imagined by Dante. It turns out she might have underestimated the strength of her bracelets, although it may just all be down to the magic. Great stuff.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 4 May 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

Green Arrow #8: So it looks like the triplets from the last issue are a genetic experiment by a guy who looks like a Frost Giant, while GA beats up the Wuffa Wuffa Guy. I suspect he'll be back and save the day. By breaking Ann Nocenti's fingers so she can't write this any more. She's barely a step up from JT Krul (but obviously she is, nobody else is that bad). I can't imagine who is buying this.

Hawk & Dove #8: Liefeld obviously had lots of plans for this before cancellation, because this issue has more plot than maybe all the other issues put together. The strain of this, however, has told on him because despite the presence of top Liefeld-swiper Marat Michaels to help him out on pencilling and TWO Liefeld-sympathetic (because it still looks like he did it himself) inkers it's still exceptionally sparse in terms of visual content. Most panels don't have backgrounds to them, and there are less teeth than normal. Anyway, dragons and snakes versus birds is the oldest space conflict known to the universe and it plays out in a cave with swords and ninjas. The bad guy runs away. Dove says "So that's it?" It certainly seems to be. And not before time. Even watching in from a car crash perspective was only fun for the first couple of issues to be honest, there's only so much Liefeld I can take.

JLI #8: Batwing teams up and arguably makes the issue worse. He only gets about 10 words in the whole issue though, mainly when Batman lets him speak. Then, fresh from cancellation, OMAC turns up to SMASH. A waste of paper, and also was the first time it was written in about 1988.

Men of War #8: Featuring only Frankenstein content, so I'm not really sure what it has to do with this book. This issue is Lobster Johnson to Frankie's own BPRD, really. Is that the ultimate ignominy, not even being allowed to see out your own book? I actually quite enjoy this, mainly because it's not only better than MoW, it's also better than the Frankie book. Jeff Lemire should take this route over there instead.

Static Shock #8: I know, let's see out the series with a Secret Origin and a recap of the previous issues. DC really didn't think this through, did they? Why would anyone buy this issue?

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

re: the Suicide Squad mole, the only thing we know for sure is that it isn't Harley (man hands) and it isn't King Shark (hairy man hands)

It would be a bummer if it ended up being Deadshot, so I'm betting on Black Spider. Although lol if it was Voltaic!

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

Deathstroke #8: Is this over? I hope so. 20 pages of daddy issues (with both Deathstoke's dad and son) is not what's expected in a KILL KILL MAIM KILL REND TEAR KILL comic, and the writing is as good as you'd expect from someone only capable of doing a KILL KILL MAIM KILL REND TEAR KILL comic. Dreadful.

Green Lantern #8: "NOK." See? I can speak Johnsian. This summarises Brightest Day & Blackest Night in about 5 pages then tries one of the oldest scifi plot holes in the book - the self charging and sustaining energy source. Johns works round it well for the first page or so (where he draws attention to it) then forgets it exists in case it gets in the way of the plot. Once Abin Sur says NOK I'm about ready to leave. Thankfully I only had Sinestro saying NOK to read before I was done. Who actually likes this?

Grifter #8: ??? Unreadable. Grifter and his brother, both of whom are possessed by Daemonites at points talk face to face and disembodied at varying times on top of the Eiffel Tower preparing for the "fight to the death" promised on the cover, before Grifter decides he can't be arsed with it and throws himself off the top. I feel like doing that too, only I wouldn't skid down the side in dress shoes shooting guns like he does. Next issue features Chesire, which presumably means a Red Hood crossover - assuming she has a kid with Roy in the Johnsiverse. Who can tell.

Mister Terrific #8: I refuse to believe all Mister Terrific's software is written in COBOL. NO WAY PEDRO. He talks the Blackhawks out of shooting him, gets thanked by the only other black woman in Los Angeles (except his girlfriend) then relieves the misery by making a multi-dimensional tube that takes him to Earth-2. So we're not done with him yet, unfortunately. This really has been a shockingly bad series. It being accepted as a pitch at all is the most baffling thing about it for me.

Resurrection Man #8: A private dick with mental powers tries to take Mitch down but falls in wub a bit, then a fat guy who steals lives turns up to steal his lives but is killed by them, then the Suicide Squad turn up and shoot him. Haven't we been round this buoy before, except without the Squad? Tiresome stuff.

Superboy #8: "NOBODY TREATS GRUNGE LIKE A JOKE!" Tell that to Blind Melon. I think I've got in the swing of this now, as long as I assume it's doing exactly the same things as the Titans book. When is watching people rip out surgical implants with their mind NOT fun,eh? Still, let's close out with some Legionnaires we haven't seen yet to make people come back. I'll fall for it, I guess.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure it can't be Deadshot in SS, I think you're supposed to think it is for the eventual revelation, but Floyd's the only thing they've got which looks like a core character except The Wall. I know it's not really supposed to have one, but I think it needs one.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

re: Grifter #8, I thought it was more boring than unreadable, which is bad news for an issue that is entirely devoted to the lead character shooting the fuck out of things

this book also seems to be taking the "let's see how many women close to the lead character we can kill to give him angst" idea a little too seriously

xp: maybe it's Captain Boomerang!

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

So Mr. Terrible is going to be the one in the Huntress' Earth 2 backstory? Oh fuck that shit. I was hoping Earth 2 Mr. Terrible wasn't a tosser. No such luck.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

I have in my head Captain Boomerang has already been in one of the other 52 but is too much of a psycho in the Johnsiverse. I could be making that up though.

Boring and unreadble were sort of a toss-up for which was dominant.

(btw DP, are we discussing this in person in a couple of weeks? See Boston thread)

I hate Mr. Terrible so much. Really.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

Birds of Prey #8: EVERYONE ALMOST DIES! But nobody does! Except Dinah's husband of three years ago, that is. Wait, what? Everything you know is wrong or something. Starling is walking around hacking into computers with a knife until a spy's talking groin shows her on an iPad why people are trying to blow up Black Canary. Katana fights a man in a loincloth with impervious skin. I AM NOT ON DRUGS.

Blue Beetle #8: So, it turns out Stopwatch's secret origin is, in fact, pretty much the same as Iron Man's only involving a time machine instead of an energy device. Yet only being a poor scientist and not a millionaire playboy, he uses it for bad instead of good. Iron Man wants our hero to help him, but he sets fire to an orphanage instead. This probably isn't good for him, because he's already had a video of how crap he is on Failblog. Then Kyle Rayner, Bleez and Globulus show up. I wonder where exactly in either Red Lantern or GL:NG chronolgy this falls then? I guess we'll find out next month, although I thought this was one of the cancelled books to be honest.

Captain Atom #8: Cap gets sucked into the timestream. Can you guess what it looks like? If you said some kind of body of water then give yourself a contract with DC! In other "I thought that was the last issue of this shit" news, next month seems to feature some other magic woman and possibly the fight between Cap and his mentor who has now left his wheelchair to be a bad guy in a giant robotic suit. Although none of this matters, since the Earth is destroyed 20 years later. If only we knew later than when.

Catwoman #8: The 'getting out of the pool' panel on the first page is maybe the weirdest one yet printed in this strip. That's some claim. Worse than Batsex. Worse than knees bending the wrong way. Worse than feet being on the wrong legs. Some daggers get stolen by Catwoman and her toyboy before they realise the Penguin has the missing one (for "obvious" reasons that aren't explained). We're then treated to a series of pages that have already been published somewhere else (Batgirl?) before we cut to Owls. This is going to be the worst book that's part of Owls. And I don't believe for a minute they're going to kill the Penguin off either.

Green Lantern Corps #8: OH GOOD A NEW SUPER-POWERFUL GL CORPS THING. The Alpha Corps appear to have made themselves into constructs from a ring source that doesn't exist yet, and swear allegiance to a battery they haven't yet created. I was right though, the plot from the first issues did finish without me noticing. Now everyone is tied up trying to bury the power battery of the Sinestro Corps on Oa, because having it on Oa is really dangerous. TOP PLAN.

Red Hood #8: This reminds me more than anything else of Mojo Mayhem. Which is no bad thing. Jason shoots a fat woman in the face after she throws herself down a liftshaft at him. She did try and blow up a children's hospital to get him to the bottom the lift, mind. Tim Drake invites Jason for breakfast and he agrees to save Mister Freeze from Owls. Yay!

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

(I will be jetlagged but I plan to make an appearance; it really depends on whether my wife has already made plans for us or not)

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

(Yay! There is a whole weekend to choose from at the moment, I will try and get some decisions made over the next week as to location etc)

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

lol at tell that to blind melon

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link


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