I Said I'd Write A Ballot, But I Never Got The Time -- ILM Artist Poll #18 -- DEPECHE MODE (voting thread)

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I like it's called a heart too.

I pretty much don't like anything after SoFAD though admittedly I haven't given it much of a shot.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

Ultra is kind of boring with a couple of highlights, but starting with Exciter they started becoming a consistent album band again; I like Playing The Angel more than most of their classic period albums and the good songs on Sounds of the Universe are worth discussing with their famous favorites.

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

For context, I'd probably rank the albums something like:

Black Celebration
Playing the Angel
Construction Time Again
Music for the Masses
Some Great Reward
Violator
Exciter
Sounds of the Universe
Songs of Faith and Devotion
Speak and Spell
Ultra
A Broken Frame

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

E, you need to get hepped to Playing the Angel in short order.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

"Precious" might make mine – their best single since "Walking in My Shoes."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

E, have you seen the "Hole To Feed" video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0TJtnyFj0

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

Nobody likes Barrel of a Gun? That's an extraordinary track.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

It's an extraordinary track for Ultra, IMO.

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

(I do like it, I just think they've done better.)

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

They suffered the same trouble as the Pet Shop Boys. Their deepening craft got inversely proportional to their curiosity about interesting electronic rhythm tracks.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think that's true at all, actually. Sounds of the Universe alone has "Hole To Feed", "Little Soul", "Spacewalker", "Jezebel" and "Corrupt" on it, none of which are what I would consider to be standard, uninteresting electronic rhythm tracks. Playing the Angel also has a bunch of tracks that are more interesting than your standard straight unsyncopated 4/4 beat ("John the Revelator", "The Sinner in Me", "Macro", "The Darkest Star") and several of the more straightforward tracks either use nonstandard percussion sounds ("I Want It All", "Damaged People") or a lot of offbeat rhythmic flourishes ("Nothing's Impossible").

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

"Barrel of a Gun" seemed bizarre and unpleasant to me at the time and, revisiting it recently, only moreso now

some dude, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

although i heard "It's No Good" today on the local alt-rock stations '90s at noon' block and it sounded alright

some dude, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

"it's No Good" is so fucking AWESOME, wld fit right in on Violator IMO.

the Dandy Club (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aieEZ950d1I

the Dandy Club (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

freeerrrrm freerrrmmm freerrrmm frerrrrm freerrrrrrm frerrrrm freerrrrrrm
frrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

the Dandy Club (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

The rhythm track on "It's No Good" is precisely what I dislike about the song.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

What do you dislike about it?

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

I love pretty much all their singles and at least an additional third of their album tracks. I don't know how I could do this, but then, Led Zeppelin is pretty much all albums tracks, and it turned out OK there in the end.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

god I need to stop listening to these albums, it's making my ballot expand rather than shrink ("Leave In Silence"!)

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

What do you dislike about it?

Because it's inert, there's more pressure on the vocals, melodies, and lyrics, none of which deliver. I couldn't have asked for anything less inspiring from a college radio stalwart in 1997.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

The year of Be Here Now

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

Because it's inert, there's more pressure on the vocals, melodies, and lyrics, none of which deliver. I couldn't have asked for anything less inspiring from a college radio stalwart in 1997.

So... the rhythm track isn't precisely what you dislike about the song; it doesn't really sound like you like any of it!

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

It starts with the rhythm track though. That chugga-chugga-chugga program in 1997 was lame.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

DJP that video is wild. I didn't like the song.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

The one Abs posted is better.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

Being reminded of the greatness of "But Not Tonight" is tipping me toward putting in enough effort to compile a ballot.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uolAT4HqH5c

crüt, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

do want to echo the praise for playing the angel above, doing a cursory review before putting together my ballot i was struck by how strong that album is, to my ears the best album they or any of their big pre-nirvana modern rock radio hitmaker peers put out this century (and i'm far from a depeche mode obsessive). to anyone that lost the plot w/ these guys around the time of songs of faith i'd highly recommend you give 'precious' a listen at the very least.

balls, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

really find it hard to *love* the late period give or take 1 or 2 numbers. was an absolute nut for this band, still adore the peak but just can't get it up for much after Songs Of Faith..

i like this though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzS4HQYd5Ak

piscesx, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

also i'm not sure where curtis came down on the remix thing (i'd just pool it all together like pazz and jopp) but just in case, the 'depeche mode' track i definitely heard out the most by far this century:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAio7VoD-e4

balls, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

five years ye gods

balls, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to be lumping all mixes of the same song in together, yeah. That doesn't mean people shouldn't vote for their favorite remixes, though.

(if anyone wants to resubmit his/her ballot with changes feel free)

crüt, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

oh might do that eh

the Dandy Club (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

if you disliked the rhythm track, dunno if this would change that but it's definitely a way different take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IccOLT7CNFo

mh, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

http://youtu.be/SbIo_pOatAI

ρεμπετις, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLafxu8guJQ

Moka, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

Also screaming ministry of sound but a nice reworking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfWSBSjCKGA

Moka, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

oh that "Dream On" mix is GREAT, I hadn't heard it before

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

I like that it was remixed by "Dave Clarke"

crüt, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link

Want to rep again for Home
THIS SHIT IS BEAUTIFULK

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

I think my fave album cut of theirs is NOTHING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lt4KJaYe8U

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

Alright, after sending in my ballot I'm gonna listen to the post Ultra albums. Not expecting great things though, I've given them all a shot at least once before (although Wrong was in with a chance of making my ballot).

Touché Gödel (ledge), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 08:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh that "Dream On" mix is GREAT, I hadn't heard it before

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP)

It was on several 'chillout' compilations back in the day. It was the highlight of many of them imho.

I like that it was remixed by "Dave Clarke"

― crüt

What? I don't get it... are you referring to other dave clarke? this is the remixer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Clarke_%28techno_DJ%29

Moka, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 09:17 (twelve years ago) link

I guess he's saying it's appropriate: DAVE Gahan + Vince CLARKE.

An underrated SOFAD tracK. "When this world is trying it's hardest to leave me unimpressed" is such a classic Gore line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOfuB3e5rR4

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

yep, love that one. altho not enough for it to appear on my ballot.

Touché Gödel (ledge), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

These kind of ballot wars really make me...not question my own fandom, but wonder if I'm somehow off kilter for loving every album for its various strengths, and never thinking they've made a bad album.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think they've made a bad album. I just personally can't get into their post-Violator effort as much as their earlier albums. I think the thing you touched on upthread about "But Not Tonight" being their last upbeat song has something to do with it.

I also don't think there's such a thing as being an "off kilter" fan - everyone likes different combinations of things.

crüt, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

see: Dan putting A Broken Frame at the bottom of his albums list whereas I'd list it at #2 or #3

crüt, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

"Upbeat" isn't an adjective that comes to mind when I think of Depeche Mode, tbh; I think The Cure is more reliable upbeat and chipper than they are. (This probably goes a long way towards explaining why DM's early twee side grates on me so much.)

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link


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