Just beat the Beta with the monk; i think this will be harder in the final version.
the bad news is it's not 2000 any more and one-more-game oh-is-that-the-sunset sessions are, to put it fucking mildly, no longer a good match for my lifestyle.
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 April 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
Also it's great at its ambience of course, and the Witch Doctor's Zombie Dogs are genuinely unsettling.
Also also I forgot to mention some of the really "FYI we are not a Diablo clone so we can mix things up as much as we want" decisions.
I really love that the talent trees have been replaced by the (much cooler) set up I was talking about, where you don't get the choice to click the '+' next to the skill that increases fire damage by 1% or the one that reduced the cost of fire spell by 1%, but instead every level you get 1-4 new skills or new versions of old skills, which you can use as one of your six buttons. Crucially this means that I don't have to go up five levels knowing that the points I get for these levels will go towards an ability that, in another five levels, I will replace with the one I want, and never think about again.
What I'm not so certain about, but which might be genius, is that they've taken away the twin panel, the stats. You can still see them on the character profile, but your choice of class determines how they go up each level. You can still affect them with gear and some passive skills, but that's it.
And from that comes not just no stat requirements on gear, but a complete lack of armor classes - almost everyone can wear almost everything, and the same piece of armor looks different on different classes. They can get away with this because with the Paladin gone, the heavy hitters are the monk and the barbarian, both of which start in leather, so everyone's armor upgrades from leather -> mail -> more platey, and you can maintain a cohesive look for the class.
Thhis
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
Bah, ignore that bit at the end.
Yeah, definitely, the only time I died was when I was trying for the "kill a lot of enemies at the same time" achievement.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, cheers for reporting back, Andrew/forks. I ended up on a consolation Torchlight run-through this weekend instead, heh.
Blizzard tend to be pretty good with the polish/depth - sounds like D3 has that in spades. How is the music/SFX, out of curiosity? The town theme from the original Diablo still gets stuck in my head/mashed-up with John Fahey, etc.
― etc, Monday, 23 April 2012 08:15 (eleven years ago) link
How much is/was in the beta? I put in an hour or so back in September on an early build at a friend's (who worked for Blizzard). I was never a big Diablo fan, and I wonder how much market there's going be for this in a world where Skyrim exists, but that's just cos I don't know what I'm talking about!
― CraigG, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
It's all of Act I (of IV), I think.
The sound was pretty good, disturbing in places, doomy in places, lots of solid and possibly familiar sounds for "barrel shatters" - the sound of "fountain of gold sprays into the air and all over the floor" hit a deep comfortable spot.
I didn't notice the music, but then I generally don't.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Music/SFX are spot fucking on; they kept most of the original voices and a number of sound elements including the WUBBLEWUBBLEWUBBLE sound of dropping a weapon to the ground and the "stay awhile and listen" dude which brought back insane nostalgia.Beta was really short for my tastes. Beat it solo in about three hours maybe. Beat it in a mob in about 45 minutes.
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Haha I felt like I was going to be castigated as a slacker when playing co-op because I tend to pick up everything that drops ever (while moldering piles of laundry haunt my floor), and then nip back to sell / disenchant it all.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
As long as you're the nice dude who offers things you don't need that seem semi-useful to others, that's cool.
― mh, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
Glad to report that the voice acting is still hilariously awful
― Nhex, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
co-op is set so that everyone gets unique loot; no stealing from your pals
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
I am sure that people will find some hilarious thing to be lame about, otherwise it wouldn't be Diablo
― mh, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
really like the unique loot thing, btw - it's kind of a pain in the ass even if you're playing with friends, since everyone has to stop and divide up the loot, in pretty much every game of this type (be it Titan Quest or Borderlands). the way it is now, you only see loot you can pick up. I believe Torchlight 2 will have the same thing
― Nhex, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2evIg-aYw8
― etc, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
so is there anything more to this game other than just killing stuff? looks pretty boring to me.
― PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
nope, that's the formula!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
oh COME ON ste; you never played the original?
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
there's more than just killing stuff.... there's also collecting stuff !
― Jibe, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
forsk, i actually have it but never played it. (i got it with warcraft and starcraft in a package some years ago)
― PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
FORKS!
― PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
I think they're going to probably have the long-term game better planned out this time. afaik Diablo 2 is still playable, and they kept adding more shit you could do in multiplayer. Like if you kill Super Uber Hell Nightmare Diablo and his brothers they each drop a unique amulet and if you and your friends each throw those out in the town square in a new game then Super Duper Uber Diablo with flames shooting out his ass shows up and you can kill him or something.
― mh, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
Ste, it's as addictive and perfect as any game I've ever played. I failed at least one college class specifically because of diablo
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
it seems to me that Blizzard is responsible for a lot of college students' poor GPAs
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
xp i believe they're calling this strategy "the auction house"
― Nhex, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
now i just want to play warcraft 2
― PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
man I lost so much of my life to Dune II, I have no idea if I would have graduated had Warcraft 2 been released when I was in college
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
anyone diving in? I keep hemming and hawing about it. I don't know whether I want to go for this or Torchlight II; I can't imagine myself playing two click to kills.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
is this out yet? haven't heard from some of my buddies in a few days - pretty much preparing to be without friends for a year or two b/c of this
― frogbs, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
midnight tonight.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
I'm in your position, Snap, don't know if I really want to throw down on this. But for Torchlight II I'll wait until the Mac port comes out, at least.
― Nhex, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
i think i'm in but i'm gonna have to put some real serious boundaries on it or else i'm going to lose a job
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
I thought they were trying for a same date release for the Mac version. If not, that makes the choice much, much easier.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
talking Torchlight II, obv. Diablo III is both systems as far as I know.
We can check for you on this thread every few days if you want, forks?
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
please do. i have a date tonight that a BIG part of me wants to cancel in favor of going home to bed and waking up at 1am to play for a few hours before work.
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
by the time it's released computers will be obsolete― El Tomboto, Monday, June 30, 2008
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
pfffff i'll rep my iMac just as hard i did four years ago(!)
― Nhex, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.dinofarmgames.com/on-diablo/
sacred cow (level) killing. posted on facebook by banned ilxor j## w#######. interesting take that i partially disagree with.
― bnw, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
is this gonna be like starting with Return of the King
― GM, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
storywise? nah, you already know the plot
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, the plot/characters are the dumbest thing by far. it's kind of charming how they didn't try to make the voice acting any better
― Nhex, Monday, 14 May 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
dammit dammit dammit, i'm trying to resist getting this but it's hard.
― Jibe, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
very tired and have work to do and buying this nowplease keep an eye on me
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link
see you in hell
― bnw, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:47 (eleven years ago) link
Jesus Christ, we started this thread FOUR years ago. Not even GTA or Bioshock gets that much lead hype time.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:12 (eleven years ago) link
lol, servers are flooded, no one in the US can get on right now.
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:14 (eleven years ago) link
i legit have work in a few hours; some things never change.
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:15 (eleven years ago) link
battlenet and blizzard.com slightly sluggish to react, but I can click around in there and still get some action.
I'm going to wait on this one til the patches start coming.
When's the next SC2 coming, anyway? Next summer?
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4064636470?page=109
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:19 (eleven years ago) link
ERROR 37
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:20 (eleven years ago) link
It's entirely online, Josh, even when you're playing singleplayer - a brutal but effective way prevent people hacking their characters to a trillion gold and all the gear.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
I think the console versions allow offline play, but they're on a different set of servers and have some other variations
― mh, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
D3 has been an effective heatwave/quarantine killer this week. Say hi if you're around.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link
I'm burnt out on it and prefer Grim Dawn anyway but Reaper of Souls rules.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link