nomination and discussion thread for possible top 100 electronic dance tracks of the 00s

There's so many tracks now that there's going to be a really thin dispersal of votes presumably with a few tracks getting shitloads and some really surprising choices in the lower reaches of the list.

That depends how many votes we get

yeah even though i am a maths/sciences person and statistics and probability is not my strong suit i can intuitively tell that "long tail" effect is kinda going to fuck over the integrity of the results if that tail gets big enough

or i guess i should say long enough

then again i imagine that is always a problem to some extent with any poll with a similar methodology, the choices/ordering at the "bottom" (ie less popular) are going to be less predictable and meaningful than the "top" no matter what, it's just going to be a matter of degrees

and also i am sure in the end the moaning on the results thread will not be about process but rather about the definition of house/techno and the pernicious influence of dance hipsterism / contrarianism / middlebrowism / grimebloggerism / pipecockism (see: jazz albums poll results)

TBH though it wouldn't be that different to having no nominations at all and everyone getting carte blanche to vote for any dance track they wanted.

Part of the reason I nominated more than I could feasibly vote for was because I wanted to at least have the option of voting for some of them, I have no idea what's going to make my final ballot and I want other people to have the option of voting for them as well.

yeah that's fair

i feel like i have a pretty good idea of what i'd vote for but that's mainly because memorability = quality in my head

to go back to what moka was saying about restricting the poll to 2000-2010

i do worry that my ballot is going to skew heavily toward the new new new, i found myself wanting to put a lot of stuff on the shortlist from the whole post-dubstep scene (2562, martyn, untold, hessle audio, etc) and i wonder whether that's just because their impact is much more immediate for me than, say, electroclash classixxx

(insert ramblings about critical distance)

i will probably vote for songs i had the most fun playing in clubs or dancing to, 2000 to 2006 was when i djed and went out to hear djs a lot.

yeah even though i am a maths/sciences person and statistics and probability is not my strong suit i can intuitively tell that "long tail" effect is kinda going to fuck over the integrity of the results if that tail gets big enough

ime the more ballots that you receive the more 'legitimacy' - in the sense of % of total votes cast - the middle range of the results will have

its not that yr wrong is that the more ballots cast the further down the list the 'consensus' extends. i think its debatable about which of these is the most valid, i guess it depends on what the stated aim(s) of this poll are and whether or not you feel that a track with a limited but passionate constituency 'deserves' to place over a track with broader support.

there are surprisingly few theo parrish tracks nominated so far

not even Solitary Flight... Which I guess is it's nomination right there

i think solitary flight IS up there actually

here's a few nominations of my own

abe duque - what happened
cassius - sound of violence
dave clarke - the wolf
dj cole medina - buffalo bill (og mix)
losoul - lies
sandwell district - variance (function edit)
skudge - convolution
smith'n'hack - space warrior
soundstream - live goes on
tom trago - lost in the streets of nyc

yeah the two theo tracks are falling up and solitary flight

That sagittarius track nominated above is actually pittman and theo's track.

Rick wilhite – Drum Patterns & Memories (Moodymann Remix)
Moodymann - it's too late 4 u and me
Rick wilhite - get on up (theo parrish remix)
Helium robots - jarza (theo parrish translation 1)
Rhythm & sound - free for all (soundstream remix)

A lot of Theo and Moodymann tracks which I think of as 00s tracks, when i check all first came out in the late 90s.

this is such a depressing thread

why do you say that, lamp?

tim - i was wondering about that too, also even though i'm a huge fan i think it's easy to acknowledge that their 90s work fairly blows away their 00s work, though theo has been having a slight renaissance lately

it would be interesting to try to work with some sort of geometric mean system - that way a track that got a 20th place vote and a 30th place vote would average at 24.5 pts whereas a track that got two 25th place votes would average at 25 pts

we would then need to, uh, de-normalize the means by multiplying up by the number of votes

going to mall w/ gf to "shop for new jeans" (for her), will try to do the back of envelope calculation to see how this might play out while "we" shop for jeans

abe duque - what happened! how did i forget about this one

jacob sanders, what happened?

why do you say that, lamp?

idk just ppls lists so far itt, seems p joyless or s.thing, no sense of play or adventure just cataloging of xp deathless listmaking forever blah blah blah

i mean i love making lists of things it brings order and meaning but i guess well see how this turns out

yeah i agree w/ you that i'm not much enthused by the majority of noms but didn't feel it would be politic to point that out

Well if I nominated what I actually liked no one would vote for it.

50 dubstep tracks and a bunch of ultra obscure deep house is just going to add to that long tail.

Toasty Boy - Splash

Amira - My Desire (Bitasweet Remix)

which noms would make you less depressed lamp? i haven't seen you partic involved in bobbins/dance threads so i have no sense of your taste in this area

idk just ppls lists so far itt, seems p joyless or s.thing, no sense of play or adventure just cataloging of xp deathless listmaking forever blah blah blah

i mean i love making lists of things it brings order and meaning but i guess well see how this turns out

― Lamp, Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:51 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what do you mean? there's enough personal favorites and rather obscure tracks posted here. and the fun is when the voting begins anyway.

i don't think think this thread is boring at all, this will be my first poll like this to be a part of because the music meant a lot to me. looking forward to the final list to choose from cause i know i forgot a lot of tracks. lots of trapez and perlon i'm forgetting.

Margo – La Baumette (Broker/Dealer Rmx)

last one Geiger - Cocain-e

i wish morbius came in here and bitched about this poll like he did the movies polls that would be funny

man i havent heard cocain-e in forever

theo parrish - space station
$tinkworx - MKB
reggie dokes - chicago pimp
keith worthy - lost in sound
soundstream - motion
soundstream - good soul

Cleptomaniacs - All I Do (Bump & Flex Dancehall Dub)

Essential that one, can't believe I forgot it.

Herbert - Moving Like A Train (Smith N' Hack Remix)

I've been having a good time w/this or w/e because I've been able to dig out setlists from 06 house parties or mixtape tracklistings from 03 or primeval ILx threads about Areal from the two-three years where I only had internet access at netcafes or songs I remember from the two times someone from Kompakt came to NZ to DJ during that decade &c&c&c. Admittedly this isn't coming through by just listing tracks, but I figure once the nominations are sorted we can start advocating things.

Er I'm w/V4hid on the possibility of a geometric mean system or something as an alternative to the standard ILx vote weighting system, but I don't have a lot to contribute math-wise.

Henrik Scharz, Ame, Dixon - Where We At?

Herbert - Moving Like A Train (Smith N' Hack Remix)
aw man, how could i forget this. definite rump shaker if there ever was one.

Henrik Scharz, Ame, Dixon - Where We At?
dude, seriously :(

What, I like it?

Or at least I did like 2 years ago when I played it last.

I've been going through a transition between Europhile to American house head recently, maybe I wouldn't like it any more. Lot of FXHE records to listen to.

That's a mega huge track and you didn't think someone had posted it? No beef though, just find it funny.

Hey, I did a search even. I blame my crappy phone.

Anyway I'm banned from participating, ignore me.

That's a mega huge track and you didn't think someone had posted it?

Ha, this is exactly why this poll is going to be awesome (for me at least). I have a lot of favorite tracks in this genre, but there's so much I haven't heard (including said "mega huge track").

Its probably my favorite song of the last decade, it was posted in good faith and naivety.

i nominate all the grime

Re: scoring, there's nothing really wrong with the system used in the artists polls (40,36,33,30,28,26,24,22,20,19... or something like that) - you can start with biggish gaps between the top ten and then have much smaller gaps lower down. I would imagine that for most people your 18th and 19th placed tracks are pretty much interchangeable position-wise so there's no reason to have much of a points differential.

Lamp I don't know what level of excitement or insight you were expecting from a nominations thread, they tend to be just lists really. The fun bit starts with the campaigning and countdown.

As the first nomination poll on ILX I feel qualified to participate in, I'm excited! Though voting is going to be interesting - I was going over my top 50 list from February 2010 and there's definitely stuff that's probably wouldn't make a top 100 today. Also, I'm gonna have to be strategic, though.

Is there a deadline for this nominations thread? I don't keep lists and I don't have time to sift through boxes of vinyl at the moment.. but here's a few that I've picked out again recently;

Robag Wruhme - K.T.B. (Ruhig Brauner Remix By Daniel Paul And Zky)
DJ T - Philly
Son.sine - Upekah
Steffi - Sadness
Ron Basejam - For The People, By The People
Buttrich - Meeting Dave Dish

Clyde - Serve It Up! (Brooks HipHouse Mix)
Electric Press - EP1 (Track 3) (At least I'm pretty sure it's 3, it's the Erykah Badu - I Want You Remix/Edit)