GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

lol i actually read her leaving the manuscript there as a maybe unconscious "maybe someone will discover this and realize my genius!" moment.

i know i often write chapters of pages for a project i don't really care about at all.
― horseshoe, Friday, April 20

why would she take a particular printout of a computer file with her when someone else can throw it away later? do you people not use computers/

you guys just leave paper wherever you go huh

apparently this show is the new Lost

I don't really think her leaving it was that significant.

I know. This is a hell of a lot of reading into one 30 min pilot.

(1225 of them)

people do this to every show now tbh

some of yall really pull out the magnifying glass on this show huh

good episode

― man down (D-40), Friday, April 20, 2012 4:05 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

from the Mad Men thread

dunham says she'll explain leaving the paper behind if there's a second season

did you guys know that caitlin flanagans husband is the president of the barbie division of mattel

― max, Friday, April 20, 2012 12:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no i did not!

"We are great believers in the power of little girls," says Rob Hudnut, Mattel executive producer. "We believe they deserve the best entertainment that we can give them. [...]
Illustrating the painstaking nature of the production, Hudnut recalls, "It was the job for six months of one 'Barbie Nutcracker' animator to keep Barbie's dress from going over her head. The company has made a serious financial investment in ensuring these movies are the quality that girls deserve."

xp How could you possibly have overlooked the millionth article about such a horrible person, in which that information was contained?

sorry, not the barbie division, i had to double check -- hes the president of the animated barbie movies

whaaaaat does the word "keep" mean in that sentence?? what the fuck

The power. Of little girls. Because they are so powerful and not at all one of the most at-risk and least enabled categories of humanity. Secretly they've had the power all this time.

I hate people.

President, Animated Barbie Movies = A+ title

Lead Animator, Keeping Barbie's Dress From Going Over Her Head = harder to put on your resume

surely this is intern work

what is the implication there: if you don't keep a tight rein on your animating team, they're going to go softcore on barbie and you won't even know until it's on the shelf? what is this fucko even saying.

I think he's unintentionally admitting that barbie seriously needs to go to rehab, but like so many actresses before her, she's being propped up by "handlers" so they can continue to profit off her fame

i took it more as the job of the animator to keep barbie's natural animalistic desires in check
xpost, yeah

though the quote from the other producer is probably better all around

Ross, Universal's family entertainment topper since 2005, and Barbie franchise owner Mattel have collaborated on nine made-for-DVD titles, selling more than 37 million copies worldwide to date, because of their shared conviction that the doll requires the highest production values.

"When talking to Mattel before the first movie, we knew that we should make Barbie a movie star," Ross says. "It had to be the same way that you would feel when seeing a Meryl Streep movie."

apparently it's more like a Judy Garland movie

Making guys realize that they really do sound like that is pretty amazing, imo. I like to think I'm not too much of a douchebag, but really, the male/female dynamic has this traditional "dudes will go as far as a lady lets them" grossness to it where, even with some level of equality, the idea of men pushing things is still present.

idk, I've been in situations where I've been a bit overzealous, got kind of the "hey now, chill a bit" signal and backed off and apologized to the extent where the girl laughed and told me I was cute because I was actually taken aback and taken her seriously. Like, my apprehension of even being perceived as slightly rapey was endearing because guys are so rapey.

sorry that was a ref to men being uncomfortable with the portrayal of sex in that ep of 'Girls'

think the dress going over her head thing has to do w/ the shittiness of their physics model (so yeah, barbie's animalistic desires)

I use it because it's so common now but I really hate the term "rapey".

I know, can we come up with something better? I feel scuzzy for having typed it a few times.

My reasons for hating it are complicated (as is the topic in general obv) and this isn't the thread to get into it but I sort of cringe every single time I use and/or see it.

:(

yeah I could live the rest of my life without typing or hearing those four letters and it'd be a better life

it would b v odd lif , I c n t ll you th t.

oh there's no need for a :( it's sorta more that I think it's used sometimes to describe things that aren't actually "rapey" at all. Nevermind. This probably isn't rational. I just don't like it for some reason.

I've heard 'creeper' used in a similar vein - instead of being rapey, one is being a creeper etc.

wouldn't "sexually aggressive" work?

In a lot of cases it def would.

I think it's totally rational to not like when people use "-y" or "quasi-" to basically accuse people of something without actually accusing them of it.

behaviors such that those that are commonly exhibited by

idk, I've heard creeper more applied to people who would get rejected long before any awkward intimate moments

this is getting ridic

but as it was said, "sexually aggressive" -- it works in a lot of cases!

pretty sure you guys can hit 30,000 posts if you all see the second episode.

help us, obi-wan, you're our only hope

See also the extremely thoughtful and popular pushing down the girl's head move. These are things that some dude's do and a lot of women, especially younger women who want desperately to be liked or may be scared or any number of other things, will experience these and go along with them and not realize they're as wrong as they are because that's sort of what we're conditioned to do.

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, April 20, 2012 12:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

this is one of those times when having my display name gets really really awkward.

why you gotta do these things?

just wanted to share this unbelievably stupid and terribly written blog post here

http://www.vice.com/read/girls-lets-everyone-just-calm-down

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Side note, I literally thought that Girls was about dykearoos until I watched it.

lol

Ugh. Vice bloggers are the most disgusting savages. Talked about the diversity thing with my roommate last night - I don't think the outrage is just that it's a lily-white main cast (so are lots of shows!) but that it's compounded with the air of privilege, the 'Dunham is writing her own life' elements and the incredibly bad decision to have the only two non-white characters be stereotypes. Maybe the second most of all.
(her rebuttal to one point was "would anyone say anything about a show with four black or Asian women?" I asked her which shows those were)

was that pop-up for the Raven designed to make you regret going to the site

x-post - The privilege is the worst tbh. I was LOLing at the first scene imagining what my parents would have done had they come for a visit and I told them I didn't want to see them anymore that weekend. Yeah, right. I was prepared to hate it/her at that point but she grew on me.