lol
― iatee, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
I'd rank approaches to living responsibly in the modern world as follows1) consume as little as possible2) consume as responsibly as possible3) encourage others to do likewise/live by example4) argue on the internet about it
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
do tell.
no, you tell. if there's something i've said that you think is wrong, show me the error of my ways. i'm not claiming that locavorism is an absolute good, or that all supposedly "green" practices are better than anything else.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm gonna have those three beers now, you're not going to stop talking out yr ass until you get yr head out of it and i can't give you lived experience or book learning on a message board
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
my experiences on my former brother in laws local organic farm
lol as opposed to your brother-in-law's non-local organic farm that you commute to via jetpack?
defensive much?
anyway gotta go eat dinner at the local organic mexican restaurant seeya
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol wut? are you saying that consumption patterns affect nothing?
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
you're not going to stop talking out yr ass until you get yr head out of it and i can't give you lived experience or book learning on a message board
again with the douchey, egocentric blather. any point one might wish to make can be made on a message board just as easily as it might be made elsewhere. i'm not asking for scientific proof. just something other than snide bullshit (a valuable fertilizer).
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
the chino family! i love them! great acrobatic team.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit you guys type fast. r.i.p. beloved hipster hatchet thread...
chile is a pretty good strawman, but most of my vegetables come from the central valley which is a lot closer than where my agua comes from
― the late great, Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:35 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think the continuing water-management disaster that is southern California's probably a more pernicious evil than locavores.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
scott come to noho sometime we can go to the dirty truth or sthing and eat local organic artisanal hamburgers or w/e and talk about hatchets and what we would do with them
I'd come to greenfield but I don't have a car or a bike or any concept of what direction greenfield is in
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
wait no I do have a bike
do it then!
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
anyway my craftsmanship, consumerism, virtue, privilege, and quality story for the month is how I bought a pair of Grado SR-60is at B&H when I was visiting New York last month, then easily sold the Bose headphones I had been given as a gift some time ago for more than I paid for the Grados.
what sorta stuff do you guys buy that's better and cheaper and more awesome than the more widely-marketed equivalent?
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.whitmanscrystalclean.com/images/service_map_large.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
take the 5 & 10 by bike to greenfield from noho.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
i know the guy who runs the kitchen at the dirty truth. he's in a band called bunny's a swine.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
might be further than I can manage on a bike right now, I actually just got a new bike and there's many ways in which I'm not in good shape.
and when will the tyranny of bands named for kinds of mammals end I ask you
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
this thread could basically be the "things people who live in northampton buy" thread anyway afaict
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
silby, you should at least come to greenfield to go to hope & olive. its worth the trip. here are the specials this week:
Bunny Mary chili infused tequila, fresh carrot, horseradish, cilantro and a toasted cumin-salt rim 9WINE SPECIAL tempranillo blend, alaia, spain. dark fruit, and coffee notes. earthy and delicious 6Crispy Matzo Brei with maple ricotta and pear-sour cherry compote 9The Antipasto Bread Board sopresatta, provolone, roast pepper and tapenade 10Alaskan Halibut in parchment with fennel, roast potato and parsnip, cauliflower, braised greens and horseradish-grapefruit butter 23Spiced Brisket spinach and garlic whipped potato, pickled carrot, grilled endive and a leek, apricot, almond and apple haroset 19Tortilla Pie masa, black beans, grilled poblano chilies, greens, roast corn, jack cheese, avocado, chipotle-lime cream, tomatilla salsa& jicama slaw 16.5
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
its so funny that northampton is like 20 minutes away and a totally different world. i feel like a bumkin when i go there now. rich people! with little rich children in matching clothes! you can't get away with that in greenfield. if you are rich you still dress like a farmer. rich people in farmer drag. i love everyone though. except the co-op crowd. them i can do without.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
I think I should move to Greenfield.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
That's like the menu of 2 out of every 3 new restaurants that open in Chicago.
― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
Or it says this:
Our menus are written by hand each day as we shop the markets, meet with our farmers, and develop new ideas.
― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
can you buy a 2000 square foot house for $136,000 in chicago?
http://www.trulia.com/property/1040601802-31-West-St-Greenfield-MA-01301
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
Doubtful. Very doubtful.
Oh and I'm not saying the menus are a good thing. I mean the food is fine, but I'm sure they could have just went to the grocery store and lied about everything else and it would taste the same.
― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
this one is a keeper. plus, has third floor apartment. you can stick your mom up there when she goes mad.
http://www.trulia.com/property/3080878664-38-Abbott-St-Greenfield-MA-01301
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
just going to note that the really annoying thing about the artisanal mayo place is that its only open a few hours a day and is mostly used for cooking/storage -- why are they taking up storefront space on vanderbilt for that??
― max, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
hope & olive differs from a lot of more precious new-american locally-sourced restaurants in that its a big booming place. its fun. has a huge bar. you can bring kids. it's great.
http://www.hopeandolive.com/
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
silby, you also have to check out:
http://www.magpiepizza.com/
http://www.thepeoplespint.com/
http://brassbucklegreenfield.com/
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
One thing that occurred to me today is that the pair of Camper woodie shoes I have right now are definitely worth the relatively large amount I paid ($140? $160?). I got them a couple years ago, wore them maybe 1-2x week for about two years and now wear them every day to work and have done so since August. I did have a shoemaker add rubber to the soles and even out the heel at one point, so I guess that adds a little to the cost. Still, great shoes that are easily worth the extra money.
My experience with camper has generally been good except that I once owned a pair of pelotas with the bubble sole, and the bubbles wore out unevenly and then the sole couldn't be replaced.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/dunkinartisanbagels.jpg
shut it down.
― s.clover, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
i paid $180 for three pairs of shoes last summer. all keen. store in brattleboro was having a half-off flood sale. keen kind of the equivalent to the subaru wagon around here. now i just need a subaru wagon. i got 2 pair allweather waterproof sneakers and a pair of walking shoes. very rugged. hope all three pairs last me for at least 4.5 years. or longer.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
an authentic new way to start your day! xp
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
maybe that just means they don't make the scones and the bagels out of the same dough anymore
everything in a dunkin donuts smells the same to me
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
man scott Hope & Olive looks great. there's like…two restaurants in Northampton that aren't just ludicrously overpriced for what they are, as far as I'm concerned. Which doesn't stop me from eating out more than I ought to.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
that is a solid comparison, scott. subaru wagons are like the genuinely useful unkillable car as far as i can tell
thx for the campers endorsement, Hurting. i'm looking for a good general use shoe that i could wear somewhere sort-of nice, to work, and just all the time and was looking at some. durability is key
man, i have this pair of born shoes that i should probably just swap out the laces and inner soles on, i wore them daily for yeeeears and they're still mostly good
― mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
being repairable is a pretty strong signifier of 'quality' imho but not without reason
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I have these:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.svpply.com/small/82057.jpg?1333635634
Dressy enough for work, easy to dress down, more or less oxford styled but have kind of a unique profile, great soles, very comfortable soft leather.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
Kind of wish they didn't have the "camper" tag on them. That's one of my main beefs with camper.
whereas the cole haan oxfords I had, once they split at the seams, couldn't really be properly repaired (unless the shoe repair guy I went to was just very bad at his craft). But that was also before cole haan upped its brand, so maybe they're better now.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
didn't they get bought by nike, though? I think some of their shoes are probably good but the more casual ones are like "woo we have nike air pouches in this" and I even saw a couple with the little window in the heel so you could see the air pouch and I was disgusted by the fact someone might think seeing that on a casual shoe or dress shoe was a good idea
― mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
haha mh, no love for the cole haan LUNARGRANDS?
http://unbiasedwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/cole-haan-lunargrand.jpg
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
I fucking hate those.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
those are still not nearly as bad as the generic dressy casual shoes with the fucking air bubble windows!
which says a lot
― mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is a really fucking great ideahttp://www.2blowhards.com/Cole-Haan%20Air%20Conneroxford%20-%20USD225.jpg
oh good god
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
those look like kmart shoes
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
oof
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link