GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

http://www.amoeba.com/whats-in-my-bag/index.html#/detail/2012-04-09_lena-dunham-and-lesley-arfin

man this dude she's getting it on with is a douchenozzle

Arfin has deeply tragic tattoos.

apparently that is better than being not douchey enough

xp

man, i just have to say, lena dunham is super-adorable to me. i am mad @ her for being friends with this idiot but look how great she seems.

ew omg ally mcbeal

is that "ironic" appreciation? i don't understand these young girls these days.

so the "taking Obama to the White House" article - aside from being racist, it's badly written. I do not grasp how sub-college paper columns get people gigs writing for major shows

Not what you know but who you know, etc.

NEPOTISM

parents yelling kind of reminds me of the SNL sketch where Will Ferrell is trying to be a dignified businessman and family dude and he starts yelling "I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS"

haha i love that sketch

i watched this the other day. i liked it enough to keep watching, which is not to say that i don't have some reservations. also, i found her hookup guy painful to watch, but i guess that was the point. but i thought she made their dynamic interesting enough. i loved the parents and how as soon as they said they were cutting her off, there was no grace period where she tried to pretend she would adjust maturely--she just launched into desperate persuasion.

I know this was a first episode and they can't really expand on every character in the first half hour, but I really didn't care about most of these people and their boyfriends are insufferable

^why it's not called "boyfriends"

I guess they made them disposable but dude who slept over and "could move in" seems like he'll be a problem

"I, uh, exploded a kiss on you"

run, lady! you're dating a michael cera character

btw so hilarious + perfect that the closing credits song is by paul simon's son.

srsly? haw

looking forward to seeing this when I catch up with last 10 days' tv. I been too busy workin

btw so hilarious + perfect that the closing credits song is by paul simon's son.

― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:58 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg!!! i kept waiting to feel like Girls's new york was paul simes's new york, like max said, and i didn't, until that song!!! omg!

I don't know if this has been talked about incessantly already, but I feel like the main problem with this show is the title. If it had been called, like Tumblr Users or Awkward Dorks or Lena & Pals or whatever, I don't think people would be wrestling with whether or not this show is inclusive of a broad range of experience.

― polyphonic, Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

diggin these titles

ew omg ally mcbeal

― horseshoe, Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:02 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is that "ironic" appreciation? i don't understand these young girls these days.

― horseshoe, Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:03 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah i had the same thought when dunham was expressing her deep appreciation for Friends. also its funny but when b_g was lamenting upthread that people might be watching Girls for the wrong reasons and how maybe the parade of female humiliation is harmful, i thought of Ally McBeal

Jesus was a beneficiary of nepotism too, ya know.

i feel so morbsy saying this but she was born in 1986, i'm sure she's not kidding about loving friends and ally mcbeal

'kidding' isnt the same as ironic appreciation, which is still a form of appreciation. i was born in 85, and the older i get the harder it is to ironically like shitty things. i think its more a mark of her age than her era is all

no, really, ally mcbeal has no redeeming qualities. i mean, it was offensive but it was also terrible.

that was an xp

Yeah Ally McBeal was really just totally awful.

i thought it reinforced positive body image in young females

lol

guys, we watched golden girls and night court; everybody enjoys dumbfuck tv when they're kids

golden girls > most of what passes for sitcoms these days

yer proving my point here strongo

night court owned too

give me bitchy old broads zinging each other with fake sets and a laugh track over self-conscious single cam ironic meta whatever

give me bitchy old broads zinging each other with fake sets and a laugh track over self-conscious single cam ironic meta whatever

― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:42 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^

i guess this show should be called Non-Precious-Metal Girls

Aluminum Girls

ok fuck it, i'm gonna guy buy some night court dvds, you guys bring the snacks and we'll have a marathon

I am watching this right now. It's OK so far, I guess. I really really dislike the girl in the pink juicy jumpsuit though. I realize she's supposed to be annoying but MY GOD.

watch golden girls instead

Pink jumpsuit girl felt like a stock Apatow character dropped into Dunham's world

agreed but it was a bit of badly needed humor

i loved mamet's scene. not bc she was anything more than a caricature but bc at least her awkward attempt to use mediocre pop culture as a prism to understand her life was recognizable + sympathetic to me. satc is such a terrible show but i have seen at least 70% of the episodes and i knew exactly what she meant when she said she tried to put her miranda hat on for work. i mean, totally asinine and ridiculous, but relatable.

satc is a pretty great show actually, or at least could be.

I would be very surprised if GIRLS ever equalled it

Many other industry voices say Dunham is under no obligation to incorporate different minority groups.

“Most wealthy white girls in America are surrounded by other wealthy white girls, so that’s who they choose to be friends with. So what? Are we so immature that we need to throw in a token African-American or Asian to make us better about the fact that some white people have zero exposure to diversity? That doesn’t help bring races together or heal inequality,” pop culture writer Jenn Hoffman told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column. “That’s an idealistic liberal media driven band-aid at best or completely unrealistic PC garbage at worst.”
Dan Gainor, Vice President of Business & Culture for the Media Research Center concurred that the racial condemnation was “over-hyped.”

“Not every TV show needs to find its PC racial balance so lefties can celebrate and network execs can market to every single minority in America," he said. "That might surprise some, but there are groups of friends that might be racially homogenous. It’s not a crisis."

satc's first few seasons were pretty good with some sharp writing. it turned into a horrible cartoon after a while though

pop culture writer Jenn Hoffman told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column