quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

“I’ve felt for a long time that fashion often is the only place in a woman’s life that she doesn’t have to compromise or where her voice is most heard.”

every woman reading this should go stencil it on a pillow and then take that pillow and smother to death the person who said it.

I completely understand loving a brand (sez the dude whose high school wardrobe revolved around a coveted Generra sweater and many pairs of Levi's and hand-me-down Girbaud jeans) but I think that once the phrase "hip, new khakis" non-ironically comes out of your mouth, it is time for some serious self-examination

xp looooool scott

It's awesome that this article seems designed to inspire hate crimes against women and gays.

It's called you got tired of a product and decided to try something else. It's not a "break-up." Why do these people suck so badly at life?

don't make me get the pillow

You'll have to pry my Banana Republic longsleeves from my cold dead hands

i understand having a relationship with a beloved garment, having an conscious emotional connection to a ~brand~ is kinda heavy shit

The entire marketing and retail industries depend very, very much on this.

yeah it's pretty hard to get people to pay $200 for a shirt w/o emotions coming into play

having just recently gotten over paying more than $300 for a suit and more than $100 for a pair of shoes, I imagine I will be ready to drop $200 on a shirt by the time I'm 85

maybe it's just a really nice shirt

does it come with seven other shirts, because if not GTFO

signed, dude who bought 3 shirts from Marshall's for $43 earlier this week

I have paid as much as $90 for a shirt.

i finally fucking bit the bullet and bought a suit, two suits actually, and ended up buying a few 80 dollar shirts in the process
the weird secret is that suits are seriously comfortable. i assumed they'd be like corsets but it's more comfortable than my regular clothes.

My standard shirt gambit is to wait for the Brooks Brothers and Charles Tyrwhitt sales and then buy a bunch at what usually amounts to $30-50 each. But I work in an industry where boring is not only accepted, it's encouraged.

I've purchased $70-$80 shirts when buying suits, which is why I only wear those shirts with said suits

having said that, I realize I'm wearing a $40 Penguin polo today I bought at an outlet for the "bargain" price of $40

isn't it a stereotype of americans that we're supposed to be constantly bragging about what a great deal we got on things?

I realized I prefer blowing money on a nice shirt than on music or books, especially when I can either one online for pennies.

*buy either one

isn't it a stereotype of americans that we're supposed to be constantly bragging about what a great deal we got on things?

― mh, Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:37 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

quiddities of the middle class

Yeah that is pretty much the hallmark of things, although some newly-moneyed people still go on about it or are bizarrely thrifty in other ways.

Wait until there are downloadable shirts. Then Brooks Brothers can suck it.

Like, there's a goddamned loom attached to your computer and you d/l your shirt and it weaves it for you right there.

prefer downloadable sodomy first tbh

yeah it's pretty hard to get people to pay $200 for a shirt w/o emotions coming into play

depends on yr income, doesn't it?

somebody at nymag flagged this: that trudie styler article manages to shoehorn in some "bill clinton is a lech" stuff:

Afterward, at a dinner and live auction at the Pierre Hotel, Bill Clinton, Ms. Styler’s guest of honor, mingled with Aretha Franklin and Tom Hanks, then ogled Jennifer Hudson, prying his eyes away just long enough to explain what had induced him to come. “Sting and Trudie and I have been friends for a long time,” Mr. Clinton said, stealing a glance at his hostess, whose clingy white Pucci gown showed the outline of her underwear. Oh, and yes, “I believe in their cause.”

Ms. Styler’s guest of honor, mingled with Aretha Franklin and Tom Hanks, then ogled Jennifer Hudson, prying his eyes away just long enough to explain what had induced him to come.

ahh the joys of tantric sex

Clinton a lecher == not news.

dude is a horny devil.

presidents are gross. obama may be the first non-gross president. no wonder so many people hate him.

like, i can understand becoming a brand enthusiast because you know that their shirts fit your body type perfectly, or that their shirts are durable and won't come apart in the wash, or even that their styles projects a certain image that you like also to project. the article goes beyond that, though: like there is an emotional reliance on a certain brand to constitute or support your sense of self. huh? i don't really get that.

clingy white Pucci

this is such a gross string of words

not bcuz of materialism or w/e but for some reason it's stomach churning

clingy white Pucci

this is such a gross string of words

― yologram (J0rdan S.), Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:02 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

could be a riff-raff hook

what had induced him to come in a clingy white Pucci?

I think a lot of people don't follow trends or styles and finding a brand that they enjoy wearing kind of outsources the trust to that brand with the assumption that instead of knowing what looks good you just go in and buy three shirts from that brand

i just am baffled by these ppl who apparently only shop one brand at a time, what is that

Department stores sometimes arrange their clothing sections by brand!

clingy white Pucci

sounds like a codependent poodle

xp and the more expensive the store, the more likely it is that they do separate by brand!

True, the largest brands even have flagship stores.

Or, you know, lower end brands that ARE stores.

Like people who buy all J. Crew or The Gap or Banana Republic are doing one-stop shopping. Of course you're shopping for one brand at a time -- that is all that is in the store.

what's the difference between a "flagship store" and a regular store?

a flagship store has a huge flagship docked beside it

flagship stores are larger and tend to have more bells and whistles, also where they drop short run pieces or high end stuff

http://static.starcitygames.com/sales/cardscans/MAGART/predator%20flagship.jpg

^^^ J. Crew's flagship

guys you're not telling me anything i don't already know! i work in retail! i mean like the dude in the article who is basically described as sourcing his entire wardrobe from APC because he identified as an APC kinda guy.

xp I think of things being flagship stores if they typically are high-end brands sold by more boutique-style clothing stores, tend to only have a handful of stores in larger cities, don't really exist in shopping malls.

As opposed to stores that are in every mall, where the only place you get their goods is their store.

yeah elmo the guy makes little sense

i'll admit i'm a bit of a carhartt guy. but its not like thats all i wear.

i don't know what the hell i wear. i have like no clothes. i end up with stuff.