i guess we are reading different media because most of what i've read about this show has discussed it as a feminist work.
― bene_gesserit, Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
what is the differece between 'a feminist show' and 'not a feminist show'
― iatee, Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
GIRLS
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
i saw this btw it was decently funny except when they talked about facebook so you'd know they know where the hands have come to on the clock
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
the shirtless boyfriend almost offended me on behalf of my gender but nah i'm sure that's how half of us behave
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
couldn't stop thinking about how small his head was relative to his torso
― raw feel vegan (silby), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
I know right! First thing I said when I saw him, his head does not go with that body.
― kinder, Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
i do think this show will kinda stack up better after a while. it's weird to think about it in terms of sympathy, or in terms of realism; there was maybe not a moment but a point in tiny furniture at which it became apparent that she wasn't shooting for a story but for a pretty cynical, i guess sorta self-loathing critique, and that that was the POV it had, on her generation, or on being stupid & in your twenties, rather than the whole thing being a charming or compelling portrait of the individual characters.
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Thursday, 19 April 2012 11:33 (twelve years ago) link
i keep wanting to bring up nicole holofcener but more for the sake of it than anything.
― judith, Thursday, 19 April 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago) link
ha, no that's p otm
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
Every wall in NYC seems to carry an advert for this programme. Every free magazine in Brooklyn talks about it. And even the UK Guardian is banging on about it. It is quite sad not to be able to watch it.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
btw in the main pic the Lena chick looks better than the other 3, I wonder if she knows this
― the pinefox, Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
pinefox, search 'girls hbo' on youtube and you can watch the whole first ep
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
watching this show made me glad to not be in my 20s, in that i could relate to some of the awkwardness, but mostly i felt like i was watching a show not meant for me. and that's okay.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
brian williams' daughter's legs are the best thing about that pic imo, lena looks like she's trying a little too hard to convey the tone of the entire show in her posture and facial expression
ratings weren't great, got less viewers than eastbound & down
― some dude, Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
watching this made me think about Solondz and how i think his films are genius, but perhaps that's an unfair comparison since Dunham's film/show isn't full-on satire. though it kind of is.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2012/04/12/hbo-s-girls-is-the-best-new-tv-show-of-2012/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.503.jpg/1334220343607.jpg
it's seriously becoming hilarious to me that there are multiple promotional photos where she strikes that exact pose
― some dude, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
really odd thing about the pic at the top, I belatedly realize / formulate, is that it appears to show them together, as friends, but they appear all to be in different scenes, with expressions totally unrelated to each other
the one on the left (is she the English one?), laughing at something quite other than her chums, or laughing at her chums while looking totally inappropriately away, is the one that really makes this effect a bit unnerving or annoying for me.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
I do want to watch this programme (thanks Rrrobyn) but I read "Lena D and best friend interview each other" in a free Brooklyn magazine (L?) last week and it was horrendously self-aggrandizing and worthy.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
ah, yes, well, it's not called Friends, it's called Girlsxp
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
haha i wish this show was called Happy Ladies
― some dude, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
it's seriously becoming hilarious to me that there are multiple promotional photos where she strikes that exact pose, lena looks like she's trying a little too hard to convey the tone of the entire show in her posture and facial expression
otm it's really annoying
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
tbh i was sort of wondering if that was a photographer's instruction so that shed be hiding her body
― max, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, don't say that. :(
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
show should be called "in my world of young people"
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
the photo should have been staged like this imho
http://static7.depositphotos.com/1011061/785/i/950/depositphotos_7850329-Smiling-family-lying-on-floor.jpg
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
One of the things I really liked about the pilot was that it doesn't present them as some kind of artificial self-contained friend-cluster. You might come home from work and there are random dudes hanging out in your apartment.
― sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
also im beginning to wonder if any of you have ever seen publicity photos / movie posters before
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
oof: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2012/04/girls-writer-learning-theres-no-such-thing-ironic-racism/51338/
― lathe darkman (some dude), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
i guess that explains the meanness
― Mordy, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah. btw link in Clusterfuck thread indicates that Arfin is a former Vice writer.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
that yeah was to al
ah i knew that name looked familiar
― goole, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
multiple promotional photos where she strikes that exact pose
Her pose is always the same because it is a design feature. It conveys the stereotype her character is built around. Since the series is too new to have progressed beyond the grossest of stereotypes into nuances, the pose is still unchanged. Simple, really.
― Aimless, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't seen the show yet, but I still think she is weirdly cute.
― Memorial Highway (admrl), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
here's the link from that thread, in the interests of completism. i agree with the writer of that article that a lot of pressure was being placed on this one show wrt lack of diversity, which makes arfin seem like that much more of an idiot. there are so many graceful ways she could have responded to the criticism.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
I don't give a fuck about people of color I hate white people
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - otm - her responses were idiotic though.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
tho I was hanging out w/ some friends last week and suddenly one of the people pointed out that we were all diff races, and then they suddenly said "this feels like the UN" and I didn't like that for some reason I dunno but I was stoned so I don't know
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
that is a super 1990s joke
― horseshoe, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
right
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like someone makes it in a 90s movie. about ethnic tension in the Balkans, no less.
say Benneton ad, channel the 80s
― toandos, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
"this feels like the UN" vs "United Colors of Benetton"xp haha
― Memorial Highway (admrl), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
I mean it was a single episode that had a limited number of speaking parts to begin with; if this was a season in I could understand the POC issues but like it's not shocking that an overprivileged white girl would hang out with other overprivileged white girls
― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
godammit i wanted to make the Benetton joke
― Number None, Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
Let's all make it on 3.
― Memorial Highway (admrl), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZKszTyfubw
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqTyBBit7NI
― Memorial Highway (admrl), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
had never seen that commersh b4
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link