lol no, I was just obliquely referencing that she did the theme song
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2012/may/30/julian-assange-extradition-verdict-live-coverage
He'll probably be sent to Guantanamo or Australia or some other prison place.
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/19/julian-assange-requests-asylum-in-ecuador-foreign-minister-says/?hpt=hp_t1
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
that is ridiculol
― recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
wow he really REALLY doesn't want to go to trial
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
Go to trial!?!? He hasn't even been charged with anything!
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
well right, and he doesn't even want to do that
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
I would trust the Swedish government not to stuff me in a sack and ship me to the US if I was him either.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
I... guess. has the US even said they want him?
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
It would surely be just as easy, if not easier, for the US to extradite him from the UK than from Sweden.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I kinda figured if the US wanted him they would have had him by now.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp I don't think that's true actually.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
Certainly Assange and his lawyers don't believe that to be true anyway.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
Really? The UK is notorious for extraditing pretty much anyone the US asks for. UK citizens can be extradited to the US for "crimes" committed in the UK that aren't illegal under British law, which isn't reciprocated, and the burden of proof the US has to display to get access to people in Britain is much lower than it is for Britain to get access to people in the US. I don't know how different Sweden is but it really couldn't be that much easier.
It would be interesting to look into their reasoning.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://wlcentral.org/node/2663
Well this is what his lawyer is saying.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
can't imagine the UK would get shirty about handing Assange over to the cousins, even on the flimsiest of pretexts
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, it seems to come down to the idea that he has more "public support" to mobilise in the UK, that the UK courts offer more chances to delay proceedings (citing Gary McKinnon) and he can defend himself better in a language he can understand. I'm not sure that really stands up to scrutiny.
I've not seen much evidence of the public support and the delay in the McKinnon case was caused by the suggestion that he has fairly severe learning or personality difficulties.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
Well given what's happening to Manning, I feel like it's not totally insane to be slightly paranoid about the motives of the Swedish and United States governments.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but Manning was a US citizen and a member of the military
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
I'm pretty sure those facts are only tangential to the US response to the leaks.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
I mean I'm not entirely convinced that the US wouldn't be just as interested in locking Assange (who is not a US citizen or a member of the military) in a hole somewhere without charge for as long as they see fit.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
It's not like we aren't doing exactly that right now with a bunch of other dude's who are supposedly "aiding and abetting terroristas".
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
No state in the EU could be seen to let that happen, though. I'm as cynical as anyone about the motives of the US government but broadly believe that the Swedish prosecutors are more or less on the level in wanting to talk to him over the other allegations.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Right I'm not saying Assange isn't a little paranoid, but you know given the state of things I'm also not sure that it's not right to be a little paranoid either.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
my guess is the US doesn't think he's worth the bother - they scapegoated Manning, Wikileaks is crippled, and it turns out he didn't have any significant dirt anyway so whatever, why expend political capital, dude's fucked.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
he might want to entertain the notion that he's just not as important as he thinks he is
all the more reason to drop charges!
pipe dream etc
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
against Mannning, that is
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
well at this point the gov't's gone too far in scapegoating Manning to turn back without admitting wrongdoing. so that's not going to happen.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think that's the reason they are not going to drop the charges for one second. Punishing leakers is obv very very important to this government.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah there's that too. make an example of him etc
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
Revive!
― StanM, Thursday, 16 August 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
Seems bizarre, if true, that the government would threaten to withdraw the Ecuadorian embassy's accreditation. Unless he's planning to live in the embassy forever, it would make a lot more sense just to wait until he comes out. I'd be surprised if the letter that was supposedly received in Quito was authorised at the top level.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
Someone at the Telegraph's best guess:
Diplomatic immunity applies within an embassy's means of transportation, meaning Assange could be transported to the airport safely by an official Ecuadoran car. But British police could intervene legally if he steps foot on the pavement to get from the Embassy to the car, or walks from the car through the airport to a plane. There have even been suggestions that Assange could be transported over these short distances using a diplomatic bag, which are also safe from interference by a home nation.
― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
This has an interesting breakdown of the options, none of which seems particularly feasible:
http://www.headoflegal.com/2012/06/26/julian-assange-can-he-get-out-of-this/
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link
asylum granted
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
The decision adds to sharp strains between Ecuador and Britain. Just before the announcement of asylum in the Ecuadorean capital, Quito, President Rafael Correa said on his Twitter account: “No one is going to terrorize us!”
it's been real, wikileaks
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
er, wikileaks twitter
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
http://london.craigslist.co.uk/m4w/3210618851.html
:(((((
― lex pretend, Friday, 17 August 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
Inexcusable, but crepey guys have been using political protests to try and hook up with women since forever.
― no-one seemed to hear him so he leafed through a magazine (snoball), Friday, 17 August 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link
Also, to rape people, sometimes.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 August 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
Chick magnet: http://www.redstate.com/streiff/files/2011/05/strauss-kahn-riding.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 August 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
does this cunt think he's evita or something
― lex pretend, Sunday, 19 August 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
also, assange fanboys are the most pathetic little pieces of shit
― lex pretend, Sunday, 19 August 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's what most people seem to want to talk about
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 August 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
Compared to Evita fanboys? (don't get me wrong, they both suck - but really, Evita as a standard?)
― windborne grey frogs (dowd), Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure the reason assange chose ecuador as a country to seek asylum with because its embassy had a balcony
― very sexual album (schlump), Sunday, 19 August 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
it's valid
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
what's vaild? does assange have a lot of idiotic blind loyalists? sure. should he have to stand trial for what he's accused of in sweden? of course, and to my understanding he is willing to do so, so long as he isn't extradited to the US. using his most strident supporters to strawman him is lazy character assassination, a red herring, and intellectually bankrupt imo.
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
idk i am try not to be reflexively contemptuous towards ppl but i just watched a crowd youtube of this thing today and some bawbag was randomly interjecting 'free pussy riot' and ugh
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link