GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

I liked it

ppl always made nonwhite complaint about Woody Allen movies -- c'mon, he didn't even hang out w/ that many Gentiles. I remember after one heavy year of it his new film opened with a club/restaurant scene (maybe Elaine's) prominently featuring black extras.

woody allen was kind of a dick about that criticism iirc

also he cast a black woman as a prostitute in deconstructing harry, so it's all good

table, are those Lena's actual personal tattoos?

also he cast a black woman as J Edgar Hoover in Bananas

I guess I could just try to find a photograph of her arm in 'real life"

solved my own problem

btw thx for the Rashida Jones info; I was wondering why this very lovely woman w/ minimal talent keeps popping up in comedy films

she's also on TELEVISION

well i wouldn't know.

hence the ironic capitals

you really think she gets roles in comedy films because she's quincy jones' daughter? i mean im sure that got her foot in the door but also p sure that's not how casting works

Yeah, maybe that got her a start (in Freaks & Geeks, right?), and maybe her fame/wealth gave her the luxury of auditions and stuff with no concern for food/rent, etc., but I assume she's been doing fine on her own since then. I mean, it's not Tori Spelling situation. Rashida Jones at least has some modicum of talent, or at least feel for comedic timing.

aren't there only like four characters on this show? did anyone ever make this complaint about seinfeld?

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not as much as they did about Friends, seinfeld had a fair number of nonwhite supporting players, there's clearly more than 4 characters on Girls because if it didnt i would be hearing about this crazy avant-garde show about a new york with a population of 4 people

those are her real tats, yes.

man idk about this. it was ok but pretty bleak, yeah. i have an overactive cringe reflex so it wasn't really enjoyable viewing. i guess i liked ms williams the best? lol bourgie, sue me. the guy playing her hapless boyfriend was a champ.

I watched a bit of this on youtube, and I think if it were a bunch of slacker dudes (or I should say, another show about a bunch of slacker dudes) it'd be getting a pass (more or a pass?). Dunno if I blame sexism or what. I do know that the main girl reminds me a lot of Greta Gerwig in "Greenberg." This sort of passive and awkward "oh, and now this is happening to me" character.

o jesus greenberg

shirtless dude was pretty horrifying in basically every way I can imagine

wait I thought ppl basically liked this

he was the only person who was enjoyably, watchably awful

i don't think i "liked" it but i don't think it was bad

ha everyone seemed like the villain characters in a romcom starring other people

hah

that is an excellent premiss, you should get in touch w/ms dunham and tell her to start describing the show that way, maybe table can pass it along

i liked, i guess i was bracing for something more misanthropic or horrible or something?

ha everyone seemed like the villain characters in a romcom starring other people

― goole, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:41 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

he was the only person who was enjoyably, watchably awful

― goole, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post

i don't get this though; he was the worst to watch!

I just got into a long text argument with a friend about this.

I like the chemistry of Dunham and the shirtless dude. It looked like they had a history, like they give each other shit a lot. Even though he's definitely insensitive and pretentious and kind of scummy, he's also ironical about it and it's like he's being emotionally defensive as much as he's being a straight dick. His emotional distance fits her in a way. The way that not-so-fat-anymore line was directed was clever, the way it was covered up and made slightly ambiguous. There are a lot of lines in the show like that, where they're covered up by rapport and verbal chemistry and history, so that the lines fit in the characters' lives and aren't just "lines."

I like how even though she seems kind of naive, she's also always fucking with people in this impish way. She's a likable antihero.

Some parts didn't work, some of the writing was canned. I didn't mind by the end of the episode.

The domesticity of the girls' lives was convincing, too. Dunham and her skinny brunette gf pulled off the intimacy of sharing a tub without looking too cute.

Not funny, but witty and amusing. It's like the jokes are diegetic jokes, meant to work in their world but not in ours.

xp my friend is a woman and she hated the sex scene so much. He has an odd face and voice.

he was gross

For some reason the funniest thing to me was the hand and arm motion the Williams girls made to direct her boyfriend out of the bathroom.

girl*

I just watched this, liked it, don't like to judge new shows based on the pilots so will carry on watching. To me the idea of parents paying... all your bills? everything? once you've left home is just totally, totally alien. You might go live with your parents once you've left college or maybe they'd help out with rent but pay for everything? I guess it's a bit more the norm in the US? Whatever.

How on earth is the Williams girl not related to Jennifer Carpenter?? I thought I was on a roll after watching Deadwood and noticing that Cy Tolliver and one of the whores have identical faces then finding out they're father & daughter IRL...

Not even remotely the norm.

im increasingly grossed out by the conflation of "degrading sex" and anal sex in this episode.

Yeah, not the norm at all. I'm an only child and was admittedly pretty spoiled but my parents would have laughed their asses off at the idea of supporting me totally after college. If I needed their help every now and they were happy to give it but they never would have just paid all my bills for me no questions asked. I do know a bunch of people who had this kind of arrangement but it's still def not the norm.

oops x-post

I should have said couple not bunch, I think.

i thought it was mean that they wouldn't even pay for her cell phone
i liked the creepy guy. not that i liked him but that he was truly hard to watch.

I just saw Ms Dunham in a bit as a nurse in Todd Haynes' Mildred Pierce

(only knew from the credits)

haha the clingy soft bf reminded me of myself in an uncomfortable way

― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm looking forward to feeling sadly deflated by the continued poor fortunes of this guy, he came on screen & i was all well what a nice young man!. there's a bit in an interview w/LD where she talks about like, 'the nice guy versus the tough guy' or whatever, which i can't really begin to imagine the dynamics of but which might be one of the more interesting aspects of the portrayal of guys on the show. poor lil dreamboat.

i want someone to plant small exploding morning kisses on my cheek

Her getting cut off by her parents is just a set-up for a future peripatetic premise, wherein she travels the country helping people while in search for a job and lifestyle that fit her, like a millennial "Highway to Heaven." Just you watch.

went ahead and made that iron man poster

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2obcx0WR61qzpiyuo1_500.jpg

im increasingly grossed out by the conflation of "degrading sex" and anal sex in this episode.

you should really rewatch this episode bc it's clear that you didn't understand the basic facts of what occurred in it

This in interesting and related: http://www.theawl.com/2012/04/women-writers-new-york

i don't read any articles with "writers" and "new york" in the URL

I confess ... can't read. *sniffs* I was hoping one of you would read that for me and tell me if it was interesting or related.

good news its a cat youtube