I think one useful approach might be to just be like Whoah, if this is normal or at least not that uncommon in the lives of some people who happen to be women of a certain age or w/e, maybe the world they move through is kinda different from mine, and then to think about reasons that might be so? Which is kinda back to horseshoe's comment that Dunham didn't put this meanness in the world.
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
Or is that too earnest for this thread? Sorry.
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
i prefer stories that go: here is a situation, here are some characters, read it yourself. i think authors don't have to spell the world out. but because people quite often seem to think that is their aim, it's braver writing, i think, when an author is prepared to show something ugly and not comment on it, or distance her/himself out of fear this will seem to be based on the writer and how s/he operates in the world, or fear s/he thinks this is a pefectly fine dynamic in the world.
― estela, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
agree
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
aaron sorkin said the increasing popularity of this style of low exposition storytelling was made possible by the tv on dvd explosion, which i thought was p interesting
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
If this is too upsetting, there's always Whitney, 2 Broke Girls, The New Girl, and Don't Trust The Bee.
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
how does this show compare to breaking bad that show's great
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
its prob not as good as breaking bad but ive only seen one ep so
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
lenas character should go into business selling opium tea
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
watched the pilot last night, I was expecting to love it or hate it but I'm still on the fence, I found it about 40% funny and 60% irritating
zosia mamet's character was like nails on chalkboard to me yeeesh
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
"all i'll need to finish my book is $1100 a month for the next 2 years""ha!!""I know, you're thinking, who can live in nyc on 1100 a month? I'm willing to get thrifty here"
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
ha yes that was a good one
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
the dad's (from Undeclared - which was better than Freaks & Geeks) reaction to the opium tea was pretty hilarious
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
i dont need to google it its like smoking banana peels lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
that last scene btw her and the parents was all pretty funny
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
peter scolari was never in undeclared, are you thinking of loudon wainwright?
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
there's this thing where in tv i always feel like ppl do less drug than irl and that was the same here but it definitely seemed like a realistic version of people being bad at drugs like when he asks his gf if its ok to have some opium T
― judith, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
haha the clingy soft bf reminded me of myself in an uncomfortable way
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
the awkward sex/ridiculous boyfriend - it didn't click for me, maybe it was that the boyfriend was too cartoonishly a dick and that the scene was neither funny nor dramatic?Flat is a fine way to play things, IMO, but not when you're also writing really broad secondary characters there should be punchlines/payoffs or something.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
― judith, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:39 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah part of the dynamic i think is that they want to be all bohemian but are really kinda square
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
yeah these people are definitely like "young professionals," i can't really imagine how this world intersects with table's tbh
― judith, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
many young professionals are much better at drugs than that tbf
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
iirc table hates "middle class ppl problems"
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
i can't really imagine how this world intersects with table's tbh
― judith, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:42 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
college, non profits, art openings
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
i feel bad that the episode is being asked to carry the weight of the world (it's unclear whether the mom is a prominent character to be developed or just a plot device at this point), but hey, the point of making TV is for people to watch and care
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
we're probably never seeing the parents again, right?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:43 PM (3 minutes ago)
her riot grrl body image tattoo solution reminds me so much of the lamp hipster/alt dichotomy and i feel like in a post occupy world these ppl hang out less and less
― judith, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
wait idk why i quoted that there.
oh i meant to c+p max
somewhat analogous to the sixties radical/hippie split <<just spitballin
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
can someone link to "the lamp hipster/alt dichotomy" ?
― goole, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
the actor who plays the sadsack boyfriend is gr8, i think.
where do i go to read this lamp hipster treatise?
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol xp
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=3410038&boardid=77&threadid=89067
― judith, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
there's a lot there but ok i think i get it
― goole, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
The truth is that Girls feels less like portrait of a generation than a napkin doodle of bougie urbane privilege. All consoling cupcakes and winking and parents-who-are-both-of-them-professors, it’s like the origin story for a new breed of Cathy, ack-ing her way through professional and personal malaise and urgently nudging you all, “Yeah, right? You too, right?!” Halfway through the first episode I expected Lena Dunham to use the phrase “go girl” in air quotes and then turn and wink at the camera like she’s Zack fucking Morris. It’s lousy.
http://maisonneuve.org/blog/2012/04/17/why-hbos-girls-unfunny-vacuum-pandering-privileged/
― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
My wife said, "so this main girl is basically Liz Lemon if she got fired from her first comedy gig?".
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
that dude tweeted angrily about it for like 24 straight hours yday xp
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
what feels like the portrait of a generation
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
lol he actually went w/ack cathy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
fuck that dude
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
To paraphrase something my girlfriend said—yes, I have a girlfriend, despite the fact that I’m an agent of the patriarchy who doesn’t like Girls—this show is lifestyle porn for the willfully miserable, indulgent escapism for people who think they need to be unhappy to be real.
wincing r/n
― goole, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
i like when he quotes his girlfriend so we know his opinion is valid
ha xpost
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
lol i haven't seen this show, what am i even doing
― goole, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
is she directing all the episodes or just writing?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
wikipedia has her listed as director of the first three, solo writer of the first five and co-writer of the sixth and seventh show.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
seventh episode seems sure to provoke commentary: "Welcome to Bushwick a.k.a. The Crackcident"
wiki also says this is ep 7 - "Welcome to Bushwick a.k.a. The Crackcident" lol xp
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
we shd prob just lock this thread now